14:59:43 RRSAgent has joined #auto 14:59:43 logging to http://www.w3.org/2016/06/14-auto-irc 14:59:45 RRSAgent, make logs public 14:59:47 Zakim, this will be 14:59:47 I don't understand 'this will be', trackbot 14:59:48 Meeting: Automotive Working Group Teleconference 14:59:48 Date: 14 June 2016 14:59:54 wonsuk has joined #auto 15:00:01 Meeting: W3C/Genivi coordination call 15:01:11 [[- Meeting number: 648 679 820 15:01:11 - Meeting link: https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=m26cd455ed9ae6d9fedddad0c4df8842e 15:01:11 - Audio connection: +1-617-324-0000 US Toll Number]] 15:03:07 AdamC has joined #auto 15:05:28 kaz2 has joined #auto 15:06:36 Present+ Adam, Ryan, Ted, Qing_An, Wonsuk, Yingying 15:07:21 Topic: LBS 15:08:08 https://www.w3.org/community/autowebplatform/wiki/Main_Page/LBSScopeAndRoadmap 15:08:25 qing_an: we have an initial scope and roadmap for LBS 15:08:31 rrsagent, make log public 15:08:37 rrsagent, draft minutes 15:08:37 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/06/14-auto-minutes.html kaz 15:08:46 vfricke has joined #auto 15:09:13 … we will first start on LBS data formats and doing so with Philippe 15:09:34 … I encourage everyone to take a look and provide comments 15:09:41 present+ Benjamin_Klotz, Volker_Fricke, Kaz 15:09:53 Chair: Qing_An 15:10:24 … I expect by next week we will have a draft version of the data format for LBS 15:12:40 Benjamin_Klotz has joined #auto 15:13:37 wonsuk: regarding scope, you intend to @@@ 15:14:07 qing_an: we feel the location data spec would be a good compliment to the vehicle data spec 15:14:37 … and want to do POI on the same model 15:14:56 … we hope to have draft of that work by TPAC 15:15:23 wonsuk: we also have a F2F in July, perhaps we can take an earlier detailed look then 15:15:48 qing_an: sure and believe Philippe Colliot will be there but I will only be able to participate remotely 15:16:36 … we want to attract more LBS participants. Philippe hopes to talk to TomTom and Delphi who recently joined the Genivi LBS effort 15:17:14 … we plan to have bi-weekly for the LBS task force 15:17:22 s/weekly/weekly call/ 15:17:33 wonsuk: any comments 15:17:41 s/comments/comments?/ 15:18:21 wonsuk: timeframe for LBS client api is next year 15:18:33 qing_an: yes, perhaps ambitious but that is our hope 15:18:57 … we hope to have the data format done by Q3 of this year 15:19:55 wonsuk: I hope we can expose the most important LBS data initially and can expand over time 15:20:10 … that may make it more reasonable 15:20:35 … it will help flush out further use cases and be something tangible people can interact with and get feedback 15:21:25 … a continous, incremental approach might be better 15:21:39 qing_an: I will discuss priorities with Philippe (Colliot) 15:21:53 … I think the POI data may be more important 15:26:14 wonsuk: any other comments? 15:27:32 q+ 15:30:03 kaz: curious if there should be separate LBS tf calls or part of the regular BG 15:30:23 ted: I suggest both and encourage LBS tf people to meet so they can have more detailed discussions 15:30:46 … they should send call details to the BG public mailing list so others interested can join 15:31:01 kaz: like the WG we should specifically recruit tf participants 15:31:42 wonsuk: I think it would be great if this tf call information is on the wiki 15:32:55 Topic: Media tuner 15:33:18 wonsuk: in the case of media tuner, who can explain the current status? 15:33:48 … from what I understand Ryan Davis is one of the participants 15:34:33 ryan: we had gone through specific use cases and in the process of bringing those over to the TV controller group 15:34:54 … we have a media tuner tf page. attendance has dropped off and it has been inactive for some time 15:35:18 … I have been attending the TV controller call and reviewing their use cases at present 15:35:51 … it does appear that the TV control API draft spec is available and will take a look at that 15:36:41 … I also heard there was an effort to draw more interested resources 15:36:52 q+ 15:37:10 ted: yes, Philippe Robin from Genivi was going to reach out to Gerard @@ from Bosch but I have not heard back 15:37:48 kaz: the TV controller guys will be having a second phase use case discussion and should review the ones provided earlier 15:38:26 … they are discussing for example radio use cases 15:38:58 ryan: I saw request for those and not sure I am the right person but can provide a couple 15:39:10 … they would be different 15:39:54 kaz: I am happy to help but we need someone to bring the ideas to the TV group again 15:40:14 ryan: the use cases seem more toward radio use cases for tv not automotive which is skewed 15:40:46 … I was hoping for a more core/common api that could be used for both platforms 15:42:40 ted: kaz maybe you can go back and talk to them, they are suppose to liaise with us as part of their charter and we should encourage them to be broader in nature and not tv centric 15:43:00 … agree we need more people providing automotive perspective in addition to Ryan 15:43:10 s/kaz maybe/Kaz maybe/ 15:44:07 wonsuk: we should as a group (BG) review the use cases and which we should emphasize to tv group 15:44:45 … I see the use cases on the wiki 15:45:20 i/wonsuk/kaz: even though their group name is "TV Control WG", their target technology is not only for "TV devices" but also any kind of media tuning, so should include media tuner capability for IVI as well/ 15:45:21 ryan: there is also a comparison document at the bottom 15:45:55 wonsuk: I am having trouble accessing the document linked from there 15:46:26 ryan: Dave Mitchell set that up and thought he had it open, do request access 15:47:59 -> https://docs.google.com/a/pandora.com/spreadsheets/d/1yEZVIqgtxp-HgW3dZx9qnUzwOLgGmzmkGO-pF7m8noc/edit?usp=sharing use case doc 15:48:28 ryan: we haven't had much feedback 15:49:07 wonsuk: revisiting the current use cases make sense 15:50:23 … have you compared their use cases? 15:50:40 ryan: I haven't but can take an action to do so 15:52:10 … the tv tuner is pretty self explanatory 15:52:21 … I might be able to finish my review by next week 15:52:24 -> https://www.w3.org/2015/tvapi/Overview.html TV Control API draft 15:52:34 wonsuk: please share the results to either wiki page or mailing list 15:52:54 q+ 15:53:21 kaz: we should update the media tuner wiki page to encourage people to join 15:54:29 ted: Philippe any success recruiting Gerard? 15:54:39 present+ Philippe_Coliott 15:54:44 philippe: I'm on it but no answer yet 15:54:51 present- Philippe_Coliott 15:54:55 present- Philippe_Robin 15:55:00 present+ Philippe_Robin 15:55:10 trackbot, status? 15:56:01 Action Ryan to review use cases in comparison with TV controller ones 15:56:01 Error finding 'Ryan'. You can review and register nicknames at . 15:56:17 Topic: SOTA 15:56:38 wonsuk: Paul was going to look into the details of the SOTA API 15:56:40 q+ 15:58:19 ted: my understanding is that Rudi and Paul suggested we table SOTA standardization for the time being 15:58:45 … it will progress as part of RVI stack and we may revisit later but no need for standardization work on it at present 15:58:52 philippe: that was my understanding too 15:59:54 philippe: can we adjust this meeting by 30 minutes? 16:00:23 wonsuk: any objection? 16:00:34 [none] 16:01:26 wonsuk: I will change the call details on the wiki and in email announcements 16:01:31 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/06/14-auto-minutes.html ted 16:01:39 [adjourned] 16:02:19 cccccceukvetckibivcvknclelgecrhvkibjhtrdlnin 16:02:36 s/cccccceukvetckibivcvknclelgecrhvkibjhtrdlnin// 16:02:37 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/06/14-auto-minutes.html ted 18:27:05 sam has joined #auto 20:08:37 rstreif has joined #auto 21:40:01 Karen has joined #auto