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10:17:33 <MoZ> agenda+ 1: Introduction round
10:17:49 <MoZ> agenda+ 2. What the group is about
10:18:08 <MoZ> agenda+ 2.1 group mission
10:18:18 <MoZ> agenda+ 2.2 group deliverables
10:18:35 <MoZ> agenda+ 3. Organization of group
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10:24:28 <MoZ_> agenda+ 3.1 chair
10:24:37 <MoZ_> agenda+ 3.2 co-chair
10:24:57 <MoZ_> agenda+ 3.3 github
10:25:16 <MoZ_> agenda+ 4. communication
10:31:04 <fsasaki> agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rax/2016Jun/0001.html
10:46:43 <fsasaki> chair: Christian
10:46:50 <fsasaki> scribe: fsasaki
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11:53:49 <fgeorges> Zakim, who is here?
11:53:49 <Zakim> Present: (no one)
11:53:51 <Zakim> On IRC I see fgeorges, RRSAgent, Zakim, gerardkuys, Christian, fsasaki
11:55:51 <fsasaki> present+ fsasaki
11:56:45 <fgeorges> present+ fgeorges
11:56:55 <fgeorges> Hi all
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11:57:19 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/06/10-rax-minutes.html fsasaki_
11:58:12 <fsasaki_> meeting: #rax kickoff call
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12:00:19 <TimeaT> present+ TimeaT
12:00:33 <Javier> present+Javier (WU)
12:01:14 <TimeaT> present+TimeaT
12:01:58 <fgeorges> present- (no one)
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12:04:49 <fgeorges> present- (WU)
12:05:21 <fsasaki_> topic: intro
12:05:25 <rob_walpole> present
12:05:32 <fsasaki_> christian: welcome, great you are on the call
12:05:38 <fsasaki_> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rax/2016Jun/0001.html
12:05:40 <fsasaki_> agenda
12:05:49 <fsasaki_> present+ rob_walpole
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12:06:23 <fsasaki_> zakim, take up agendum 1
12:06:23 <Zakim> agendum 1. "1: Introduction round" taken up [from MoZ]
12:06:42 <quentin> present+ quentin
12:06:46 <fsasaki_> christian: working for wolters kluwer, head of content strategy, responsible for data strucutres and data enrichmnet
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12:06:56 <fsasaki_> ... we have a lot of XML data and now move more and more into rdf world
12:07:00 <fsasaki_> present+ daniele
12:07:10 <fsasaki_> ... not an ease task, we run often into issues
12:07:30 <fsasaki_> ... everybody dealing with these formats are running into problems or may have solved them
12:07:44 <fsasaki_> ... so I and Felix had the idea to create the group
12:08:11 <fsasaki_> quentin: also at wolters kluwer, I am surving all business units in US and Europe, similar role as christian
12:08:22 <fsasaki_> ... managing WK ontoloy that we are using across all businesses
12:08:36 <fsasaki_> ... experience in RDF and its application in industry
12:08:52 <fsasaki_> gerard: from the netherlands, involved in linked data
12:09:04 <fsasaki_> ... dutch admin move to linked data, they also work with XML
12:09:25 <fsasaki_> phil: CTO at vistatec, dublin based localization service provider
12:09:39 <fsasaki_> ... translating large content volumns for large organisations
12:09:47 <fsasaki_> ... we are partner in EU project FREME
12:10:01 <fsasaki_> ... we are using XML vocabulary XLIFF in localization industry
12:10:20 <fsasaki_> ... interested in embedding RDF in XLIFF to transport informatino throughout our productino chains
12:10:31 <fsasaki_> jose: working for univ. ovido
12:10:39 <fsasaki_> ... in web semantics research group
12:10:55 <fsasaki_> ... have been involved in several developments with different data sources - XML, CSV, ...
12:11:13 <fsasaki_> ... then providing an (RDF) data portal. Interested in conversion of data from different sources, often XML and CSV
12:11:22 <fsasaki_> ... need to translate that into RDF
12:11:29 <fsasaki_> ... involved into data shapes W3C WG
12:11:42 <fsasaki_> ... working on how to translate XML Schemas into RDF shapes
12:11:51 <fsasaki_> ... interested into coversion from XML Schemas into RDF
12:12:12 <fsasaki_> Timea: from semantic web company, our main product is pool party
12:12:19 <fsasaki_> ... for working with semantic data sources
12:12:35 <fsasaki_> ... currently mapping a linguistic dictionary into RDF, the dictionariy is in XML
12:12:47 <fsasaki_> ... looking for ideas and exchange
12:13:10 <fsasaki_> florent: in belgium, worked with XML since 15 years, part of XSLT WG and XQuery
12:13:23 <fsasaki_> ... started with semantic stuff a while ago, with mark logic then
12:13:31 <fsasaki_> ... mark logic is data base that supports XML and RDF
12:13:43 <fsasaki_> ... not at mark logic anymore but working extensively with semantic technologies
12:13:58 <fsasaki_> ... question of interop between XML and RDF is very important for me
12:14:30 <fsasaki_> daniele: working at univ. of econ. and business
12:14:34 <fsasaki_> ... interested in compression
12:14:52 <fsasaki_> rop: working at lexus nexus in publishing area
12:15:12 <fsasaki_> ... working with XML technologies for 10 years, also involved in semantic technologies e.g. in the UK archives in the past
12:16:28 <fsasaki> felix: interested in language processing which often involves linked data knowledge but is applied to XML content
12:16:47 <fsasaki> zakim, take up next agendum
12:16:47 <Zakim> agendum 2. "2. What the group is about" taken up [from MoZ]
12:17:07 <fsasaki> christian: https://www.w3.org/community/rax/ - see description on main page of the group
12:17:12 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/06/10-rax-minutes.html fsasaki
12:17:21 <fsasaki> christian goes through description
12:18:25 <fsasaki> present+ christian, gerard
12:18:27 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/06/10-rax-minutes.html fsasaki
12:22:21 <fsasaki> christian: any commments on the way we approach this? can also be positive :)
12:22:27 <Christian> present+ Christian
12:22:37 <fsasaki> gerard: looks like a quite useful and practical approach, let's see how it works
12:22:43 <fsasaki> florent: so far so good
12:22:44 <fsasaki> +1
12:22:55 <Labra> +1 also sounds good for me
12:23:04 <fsasaki> zakim, take up next agendum
12:23:04 <Zakim> agendum 3. "2.1 group mission" taken up [from MoZ]
12:23:14 <fsasaki> done already
12:23:18 <fsasaki> close agendum 3
12:23:30 <fsasaki> zakim, take up agendum 6
12:23:30 <Zakim> agendum 6. "3.1 chair" taken up [from MoZ_]
12:23:46 <fsasaki> christian: I can be chair, to achieve more would be great to have a co-chair
12:24:08 <fsasaki> ... if there is volunteer to help, esp. at the start, that would be really appreciated
12:24:18 <fsasaki> ... any volunteers?
12:24:46 <fsasaki> florent: I am in many groups, if there is nobody else I can do that, otherwise rather not
12:24:50 <fsasaki> phil: I would be happy to help
12:25:16 <fsasaki> https://www.w3.org/community/rax/participants
12:25:45 <fsasaki> felix: use the above link to nominate christian and phil as chairs and support them
12:26:06 <fsasaki> zakim, close agendum 6
12:26:06 <Zakim> agendum 6, 3.1 chair, closed
12:26:07 <Zakim> I see 5 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
12:26:07 <Zakim> 4. 2.2 group deliverables [from MoZ]
12:26:26 <fsasaki> zakim, take up agendum 8
12:26:26 <Zakim> agendum 8. "3.3 github" taken up [from MoZ_]
12:26:39 <fsasaki> christian: felix proposed to have some repo at github to gather stuff
12:26:52 <fsasaki> ... w3c can take that up later
12:26:58 <quentin> q+
12:27:04 <fsasaki> ... anybody else who would be willing to spend some space for that?
12:27:22 <fsasaki> ack q
12:27:33 <fsasaki> phil and quentin are volunteering
12:28:05 <fsasaki> felix: so have a github that has the group name as account?
12:28:18 <fsasaki> quentin: yes
12:28:24 <fsasaki> christian: who will set that up
12:28:37 <fsasaki> rob: I can do that
12:28:59 <fsasaki> action: rob to set up github account
12:29:20 <fsasaki> christian: how about rax-w3c?
12:29:43 <fgeorges> https://github.com/w3c
12:31:00 <fsasaki> action: felix to check if we can use w3c github for the CG repo
12:31:11 <fsasaki> zakim, take up agendum 9
12:31:11 <Zakim> agendum 9. "4. communication" taken up [from MoZ_]
12:31:25 <fsasaki> christian: propose to  have call bi-weekly, a call one hour
12:31:37 <fsasaki> proposal was friday 2 p.m. like now, we are open for changes
12:31:50 <fsasaki> ... for me dates like Monday or Friday are always better
12:31:54 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/06/10-rax-minutes.html fsasaki
12:32:13 <fsasaki> ... is the time slot ok for everybody?
12:32:24 <fsasaki> phli: friday is a good day for me - 12 p.m. UTC?
12:32:28 <fsasaki> yes
12:34:13 <fsasaki> christian: next call then 24 June. I will travel that hour could make it one our earlier. Not that nice for US
12:35:08 <fsasaki> felix: propose to keep the slot, except the one time in two weeks from now
12:35:25 <fsasaki> for all the 2 p.m. slot on friday is OK
12:36:05 <fsasaki> quentin: next time won't attend, in general it is OK
12:38:08 <fsasaki> topic: discussing github account
12:38:39 <fsasaki> labra and florent - created organization for free, including different teams
12:39:35 <fsasaki> florent will ping rob later to see whether he can do the action items
12:39:57 <fsasaki>  <robkwalpole@gmail.com>
12:40:18 <fsasaki> topic: outreach
12:40:58 <fsasaki> christian: we can do personalised outreach for sure. If there is an existing pipeline / channel that we can use for promotion?
12:41:28 <Labra> I have checked in github and it seems that "rax" is already taken, however "rax-w3c" seems not to be taken
12:41:38 <fsasaki> use "Everyone start promotion using #rax @w3c" - the hash tag to promote
12:41:47 <fsasaki> thanks, labra - rax-w3c sounds good to me
12:42:04 <fsasaki> christian: need to talk then about common issues and use cases
12:43:04 <fsasaki> felix: maybe send your stuff to the list to share it with others, then its more stable share it with the group
12:43:53 <fsasaki> christian: ok. If you have topics you want to cover share it with me + phil and find out if there are commonalities and list things, so that we have for you a rather ease process so that not everybody has to read everything every time
12:44:09 <fsasaki> topic: aob?
12:44:10 <quentin> will a mailing list / google group be created for internal communication?
12:44:48 <fsasaki> florent: what will be our deliverables?
12:45:09 <fsasaki> internal list: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/internal-rax/
12:45:33 <fsasaki> christian: idea is to address certain issues and topics that exist and that more than one in the group has
12:46:00 <fsasaki> .... depending on the type of issue we have we work on the solution. The solution will be the deliverable = a best practice. That is one deliverable.
12:46:38 <fsasaki> ... so I would not restrict that to something specific concerning the format right now, will always depend on what we achieve
12:46:59 <fsasaki> florent: that is fine
12:47:19 <fsasaki> ... I did not mean the format but what we want to achieve, as I take it it is not yet ready
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12:48:27 <fsasaki> christian: we need to collect issues in the next weeks and then group them into commonalities. Then we see that some partners have the same as others.
12:49:57 <fsasaki> public-rax@w3.org
12:50:51 <fsasaki> felix: chairs should say what they prefer - to send everything to the list or to the chairs
12:51:07 <fsasaki> christian: let's try to collect sending things to me and phil
12:51:14 <fsasaki> .. that is more efficient
12:51:23 <fsasaki> ... also for the group members
12:51:35 <fsasaki> ... if you want to see everything that happens please let me know
12:52:03 <fsasaki> gerard: once you have received everthing, could you produce a summary?
12:52:20 <fsasaki> christian: sure, we will make a summary with the details as well to make things concise
12:52:49 <fsasaki> felix: include the submitter of issues in the summary
12:52:56 <fsasaki> topic: actions for the group
12:53:09 <fsasaki> christian: please share what you have to the group list
12:53:40 <fsasaki> ... then share your requriements with me and phil ritchie. we will make that available for the next call
12:53:56 <fsasaki> the earlier you can send stuff the better
12:54:23 <fsasaki> ... if you have s.t. now share it, and you can also bring up new things after the next call
12:54:30 <fsasaki> topic: AOB again
12:54:50 <fsasaki> christian: we have a good start, now need to find out what is of interest to the people, then we can start working
12:55:02 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/06/10-rax-minutes.html fsasaki
12:55:16 <fsasaki> florent: will there be an agenda before every call?
12:55:24 <fsasaki> christian: yes, will send agenda a few days before
12:55:37 <fsasaki> felix will provide a gotomeeting
12:56:16 <fsasaki> christian: thanks a lot for joining, looking forward to work with you!
12:56:22 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/06/10-rax-minutes.html fsasaki
12:56:24 <fsasaki> adjourned
12:56:26 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/06/10-rax-minutes.html fsasaki
12:56:54 <fsasaki> present- Christian
12:56:55 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/06/10-rax-minutes.html fsasaki
13:27:34 <fsasaki> rrsagent, bye
13:27:34 <RRSAgent> I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2016/06/10-rax-actions.rdf :
13:27:34 <RRSAgent> ACTION: rob to set up github account [1]
13:27:34 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/06/10-rax-irc#T12-28-59
13:27:34 <RRSAgent> ACTION: felix to check if we can use w3c github for the CG repo [2]
13:27:34 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/06/10-rax-irc#T12-31-00
13:27:35 <fsasaki> zakim, bye
13:27:35 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees have been fsasaki, fgeorges, TimeaT, Javier, (WU), philr, rob_walpole, labra, quentin, daniele, christian, gerard
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