15:43:03 RRSAgent has joined #apa 15:43:03 logging to http://www.w3.org/2016/06/08-apa-irc 15:43:05 RRSAgent, make logs world 15:43:05 Zakim has joined #apa 15:43:07 Zakim, this will be 15:43:07 I don't understand 'this will be', trackbot 15:43:08 Meeting: Accessible Platform Architectures Working Group Teleconference 15:43:08 Date: 08 June 2016 15:43:11 agenda? 15:43:15 agenda+ preview agenda with items from two minutes 15:43:15 agenda+ RQTF CfC http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa-admin/2016Jun/0000.html 15:43:18 agenda+ Preparing for COGA FPWD Publication CfC 15:43:21 agenda+ TPAC 2016 Planning [See Below] 15:43:23 agenda+ Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/products/8 15:43:26 agenda+ new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html 15:43:28 agenda+ Action-2023 Pointer Lock http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa/2016Apr/0033.html 15:43:31 agenda+ CSS A11y TF Draft https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/task-forces/css-a11y/work-statement 15:43:34 agenda+ Other Business 15:43:37 agenda+ next and future meetings 15:43:39 agenda+ be done 16:00:28 Thanks, Shane! 16:00:33 present+ Janina 16:00:37 Chair: Janina 16:00:41 zakim, next item 16:00:41 agendum 1. "preview agenda with items from two minutes" taken up [from janina] 16:01:33 present+ Joanmarie_Diggs 16:01:50 JF has joined #apa 16:02:36 present+ JF 16:02:50 fesch has joined #apa 16:04:07 present+ fesch 16:04:19 regrets Rich 16:04:24 present+ MichaelC 16:04:32 present+ LĂ©onie 16:04:34 scribe: fesch 16:05:20 LJWatson has joined #apa 16:05:27 js: we have a work statement for a new task force 16:05:35 present+ LJWatson 16:05:41 agenda? 16:05:49 js: bits of news? 16:06:00 regrets: Shane, Gottfried 16:06:33 jf: work on WCAG next or 2.1 started talking about projected timelines... target date mid year 2018 (wag) 16:06:56 jf: new stuff in would have a deadline of Dec 2016 16:07:09 zakim, next item 16:07:09 agendum 2. "RQTF CfC http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa-admin/2016Jun/0000.html" taken up [from janina] 16:07:56 js: Research questions TF in CFC, CFC time to respond expires tomorrow midnight, questions? 16:08:05 zakim, next item 16:08:05 agendum 2 was just opened, fesch 16:08:13 zakim, close item 2 16:08:13 agendum 2, RQTF CfC http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa-admin/2016Jun/0000.html, closed 16:08:15 I see 9 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is 16:08:15 3. Preparing for COGA FPWD Publication CfC [from janina] 16:08:19 zakim next item 16:08:26 zakim, next item 16:08:26 agendum 3. "Preparing for COGA FPWD Publication CfC" taken up [from janina] 16:08:59 regrets+ Rich 16:09:17 js: COGA is getting near a first working draft, don't have a URI or CFG, but you can start looking at it 16:09:32 js: where should we point folks to? 16:09:54 mc: I am still trying to get them into a set... 16:10:07 js: is the best place the wiki until you get them gathered? 16:10:09 https://github.com/w3c/coga 16:10:10 mc: no 16:10:40 mc: gap analysis section, and issue papers in COGA git repository 16:11:03 -> http://w3c.github.io/coga/gap-analysis/ COGA Gap Analysis 16:11:33 -> http://w3c.github.io/coga/issue-papers/ COGA Issue Papers 16:11:48 mc: a lot of stuff going on, hard to get everything done for COGA 16:12:37 js: when do expect this to come to APA and WCAG - probably gating factor is when Michael can whip these into shape... 16:13:32 mc: Lisa wants a CFC soon, it will take me a couple of weeks before I can get them into a publication state.... Lisa wants content review... 16:14:23 js: hard to know where to look right now 16:15:02 js: can get group to start looking at things.... use the two COGA URI's above 16:15:21 js: quite a lot of stuff in there... 16:15:40 js: still too early for publication, but not too early to look at content 16:15:45 zakim, next item 16:15:45 agendum 4. "TPAC 2016 Planning" taken up [from See Below] 16:16:41 js: working on agenda, will be working with other groups for joint topics... within 100 days 16:17:10 js: make reservations ... Lisbon is busy 16:17:19 zakim, next item 16:17:19 agendum 5. "Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/products/8" taken up [from janina] 16:18:04 action-2051 due 1 week 16:18:04 Set action-2051 Review https://www.w3.org/tr/css-overflow-3/ css overflow module level 3 due date to 2016-06-15. 16:19:12 js: audio doc doesn't cover all use cases in the MAUR... 16:19:34 js: other use cases should be considered... 16:19:39 rrsagent, make minutes 16:19:39 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/06/08-apa-minutes.html MichaelC 16:19:55 js: singularity of the API is a concern 16:20:18 -> http://www.w3.org/TR/audio-output/ Audio Output Devices API 16:20:59 js: I will write up a response and forward to list for review/comments before sending on 16:21:02 action-2050 due 1 week 16:21:02 Set action-2050 Review https://www.w3.org/tr/audio-output/ audio output devices api due date to 2016-06-15. 16:21:19 action-2049 due 1 week 16:21:19 Set action-2049 Review https://www.w3.org/tr/mediacapture-streams/ media capture and streams due date to 2016-06-15. 16:21:33 js: big spec not finished 16:22:16 action-2047? 16:22:16 action-2047 -- Michiel Bijl to Review css grid layout https://www.w3.org/tr/css-grid-1/ -- due 2016-06-01 -- OPEN 16:22:16 http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2047 16:22:37 action-2046 16:22:37 action-2046 -- Cynthia Shelly to Add headings for ordering in css aam http://github/w3c/aria/css-aam/css-aam.html -- due 2016-06-01 -- OPEN 16:22:37 http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2046 16:22:48 action-2046 due 1 week 16:22:48 Set action-2046 Add headings for ordering in css aam http://github/w3c/aria/css-aam/css-aam.html due date to 2016-06-15. 16:22:58 action-2037 16:22:58 action-2037 -- Joanmarie Diggs to Re-review https://www.w3.org/tr/selection-api/ selection api -- due 2016-06-08 -- PENDINGREVIEW 16:22:58 http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2037 16:23:21 js: will pick it up after new pubs 16:24:18 action-1750 due 1 week 16:24:18 Set action-1750 Review ui events due date to 2016-06-15. 16:24:25 cs: making progress on ui events 16:24:26 action-2011 due 1 week 16:24:26 Set action-2011 Janina to draft examples of how the hand-wavey stuff in CSS Transitions accessibility statement could be solidified due date to 2016-06-15. 16:24:35 action-2047 due 1 week 16:24:35 Set action-2047 Review css grid layout https://www.w3.org/tr/css-grid-1/ due date to 2016-06-15. 16:24:45 zakim, next item 16:24:45 agendum 6. "new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html" taken up [from janina] 16:25:16 -> https://www.w3.org/TR/css-content-3/ CSS Generated Content Module Level 3 16:25:56 action: cynthia to review CSS Generated Content Module Level 3 https://www.w3.org/TR/css-content-3/ 16:25:56 Created ACTION-2054 - Review css generated content module level 3 https://www.w3.org/tr/css-content-3/ [on Cynthia Shelly - due 2016-06-15]. 16:26:45 action-2054 due 1 month 16:26:45 Set action-2054 Review css generated content module level 3 https://www.w3.org/tr/css-content-3/ due date to 2016-07-08. 16:26:57 -> https://www.w3.org/TR/css-paint-api-1/ CSS Painting API Level 1 16:27:22 action: fesch to review CSS Painting API Level 1 https://www.w3.org/TR/css-paint-api-1/ 16:27:23 Created ACTION-2055 - Review css painting api level 1 https://www.w3.org/tr/css-paint-api-1/ [on Fred Esch - due 2016-06-15]. 16:27:44 -> https://www.w3.org/TR/css-properties-values-api-1/ CSS Properties and Values API Level 1 16:29:17 action: fesch to review CSS Properties and Values API Level 1 https://www.w3.org/TR/css-properties-values-api-1/ 16:29:17 Created ACTION-2056 - Review css properties and values api level 1 https://www.w3.org/tr/css-properties-values-api-1/ [on Fred Esch - due 2016-06-15]. 16:29:24 action: cooper to review CSS Properties and Values API Level 1 https://www.w3.org/TR/css-properties-values-api-1/ 16:29:29 Created ACTION-2057 - Review css properties and values api level 1 https://www.w3.org/tr/css-properties-values-api-1/ [on Michael Cooper - due 2016-06-15]. 16:29:30 action: cynthia to review CSS Properties and Values API Level 1 https://www.w3.org/TR/css-properties-values-api-1/ 16:29:30 Created ACTION-2058 - Review css properties and values api level 1 https://www.w3.org/tr/css-properties-values-api-1/ [on Cynthia Shelly - due 2016-06-15]. 16:29:32 Q+ to enquire after the proposed "generic" statement or process we discussed at last year's TPAC (with Web Payments folk) 16:30:04 -> https://www.w3.org/TR/css-pseudo-4/ CSS Pseudo-Elements Module Level 4 16:30:11 action: fesch to review CSS Pseudo-Elements Module Level 4 https://www.w3.org/TR/css-pseudo-4/ 16:30:15 Created ACTION-2059 - Review css pseudo-elements module level 4 https://www.w3.org/tr/css-pseudo-4/ [on Fred Esch - due 2016-06-15]. 16:31:02 -> https://www.w3.org/TR/css-typed-om-1/ CSS Typed OM Level 1 16:32:07 mc: we can pass on 16:32:22 -> https://www.w3.org/TR/mediacapture-fromelement/ Media Capture from DOM Elements 16:33:27 action: janina to review Media Capture from DOM Elements https://www.w3.org/TR/mediacapture-fromelement/ 16:33:28 Created ACTION-2060 - Review media capture from dom elements https://www.w3.org/tr/mediacapture-fromelement/ [on Janina Sajka - due 2016-06-15]. 16:33:46 -> https://www.w3.org/TR/referrer-policy/ Referrer Policy 16:35:22 mc: may be able to pass, one use case - if you follow a link - willing to pass 16:35:51 -> https://www.w3.org/TR/screen-capture/ Screen Capture 16:36:32 action: to review Screen Capture https://www.w3.org/TR/screen-capture/ 16:36:32 Error finding 'to'. You can review and register nicknames at . 16:36:56 action: janina to review Screen Capture https://www.w3.org/TR/screen-capture/ 16:36:56 Created ACTION-2061 - Review screen capture https://www.w3.org/tr/screen-capture/ [on Janina Sajka - due 2016-06-15]. 16:37:09 -> https://www.w3.org/TR/UISecurity/ User Interface Security and the Visibility API 16:38:30 mc: there is a accessibility note... 16:38:56 -> https://www.w3.org/TR/worklets-1/ Worklets Level 1 16:39:43 jf: probably internal gut stuff... 16:39:54 cs: might have some test cases... 16:40:34 rrsagent, make minutes 16:40:34 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/06/08-apa-minutes.html MichaelC 16:41:10 jf: css properties... maybe we should have security and privacy but nothing on accessibility... in Japan I thought we discussed having a stock blurb for accessibility 16:41:21 -> https://w3c.github.io/charter-drafts/charter-template.html Charter templaet 16:41:22 ack JF 16:41:22 JF, you wanted to enquire after the proposed "generic" statement or process we discussed at last year's TPAC (with Web Payments folk) 16:41:51 mc: for new working groups, starting a new charter ... working groups are asked to add ... impacts on accessibility... 16:42:24 mc: this has only been in the charter template for a month or so... so most WG haven't seen it yet 16:42:38 zakim, who is noisy 16:42:38 I don't understand 'who is noisy', JF 16:42:47 cs: does respec -- missed content== 16:43:19 ack jf 16:43:33 mc: respec and a quality assurance group, we may want a best practices and talk about it at TPAC 16:43:51 +1 to a working session on this at TPAC 16:44:27 cs: can have a top 10 thin gs when writing a spec 16:44:33 propose we make this a session at TPAC as part of the plenary day 16:44:46 js: we have a doc in our charter, Michael has been working on... 16:44:46 -> http://w3c.github.io/pfwg/wtag/checklist.html Draft Accessibility Consideration Checklist 16:45:05 -> http://w3c.github.io/pfwg/wtag/wtag.html Draft Web Technology Accessibility Guidelines 16:45:11 mc: similar to checklist for globablization.... 16:46:07 agenda? 16:46:55 TOPIC: action-2037 16:47:01 action-2037 16:47:01 action-2037 -- Joanmarie Diggs to Re-review https://www.w3.org/tr/selection-api/ selection api -- due 2016-06-08 -- PENDINGREVIEW 16:47:01 http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2037 16:47:21 jd: minor editorial changes 16:47:41 jd: API has aliases, nothing significant that we need to do 16:47:53 zakim, next item 16:47:53 agendum 7. "Action-2023 Pointer Lock http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa/2016Apr/0033.html" taken up [from janina] 16:48:48 jf: Leonie and I had a chat... talked with AI 2 can we wait... Leonie has dropped off the call 16:48:57 zakim, next item 16:48:57 agendum 8. "CSS A11y TF Draft https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/task-forces/css-a11y/work-statement" taken up [from janina] 16:49:57 js: APA + CSS + ARIA task force have seen strong +1s, Leone suggested that we have 3 facilitators - one from each WG 16:50:46 js: any comments on the work statement? If not I will send it off to CSS, I think I know what Rich will say - post ARIA 1.1... 16:50:59 cs: post 1.1 sounds perfect 16:51:20 close action-2037 16:51:20 Closed action-2037. 16:51:33 js: need a list of all the CSS docs with issues 16:51:39 cs: agreed 16:51:57 js: any comments on draft work statement? 16:52:49 js: we will wait a few more days... and send it over to CSS chairs... expect some pushback 16:52:54 zakim, next item 16:52:54 agendum 9. "Other Business" taken up [from janina] 16:53:09 cs: test automation 16:53:38 cs: 2 areas need work - testing creation and clients for Mac and xxx 16:54:01 jf: I thought Jon Gunderson was heading up the testing activity... 16:54:13 jf: may belong on the ARIA call 16:54:27 jf: I still have two guys that are waiting 16:54:47 cs: we need my guy to get connected to your two guys... 16:55:00 jf: I think we should include Jon Gunderson in the loop 16:55:53 cs: can we add test automation to the ARIA WG agenda? 16:56:02 mc: yes, agenda already sent out 16:56:49 js: regrets for ARIA call 16:57:07 rrsagent, make minutes 16:57:07 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/06/08-apa-minutes.html fesch 16:58:01 js: expect organizational subjects on this call in the next few weeks 16:58:13 rrsagent, make minutes 16:58:13 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/06/08-apa-minutes.html fesch 18:10:03 chaals has joined #apa 18:15:49 chaals1 has joined #apa