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07:59:19 <kaz> Meeting: Automotive Security&Privacy
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08:00:34 <kaz> present: Kaz_Ashimura, Adam_Crofts, Tatsuhiko_Hirabayashi, Junichi_Hashimoto, Kevin_Gavigan, Philippe_Robin
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08:04:00 <kaz> agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-autowebplatform/2016May/0015.html
08:04:26 <kaz> topic: meeting logistics
08:04:40 <kaz> junichi: would like to hold this call monthly
08:05:04 <kaz> ... so the next call will be 21 of June
08:06:19 <kaz> kaz: June 21 is the 3rd Tuesday
08:06:32 <kaz> junichi: in that case, let's have the next call on the 28th of June
08:06:46 <kaz> present+ Volker_Fricke
08:07:04 <kaz> junichi: we'll have our next f2f meeting in Portland in July
08:07:14 <kaz> ... would like to suggest the TF note by that meeting
08:07:30 <kaz> ... and at the Portland meeting, would like to ask the WG for comments
08:07:40 <kaz> ... and we can revise that Note
08:08:10 <kaz> ... and during the TPAC 2016 in Lisbon, we can ask other groups, e.g., Web App Security WG, for comments
08:08:24 <junichi-hashimoto> https://www.w3.org/auto/security/wiki/Consideration_Draft
08:08:26 <kaz> present+ Magnus_Gunnarsson
08:08:38 <kaz> junichi: put ideas on the above wiki page
08:09:30 <kaz> magnaus: can't access the wiki...
08:09:44 <junichi-hashimoto> https://w3c.github.io/automotive/vehicle_data/security/
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08:10:23 <kaz> junichi: the content is identical with the above GitHub repo
08:10:48 <kaz> s/identical/almost same/
08:11:05 <kaz> ... would like to ask you all to update the content of the Note
08:11:14 <kaz> ... so have copied the content to the wiki space
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08:12:51 <kaz> kaz: if needed we can create a public wiki for this purpose
08:14:13 <kaz> magnus: currently I don't have permission
08:14:22 <kaz> kaz: will send a request to the AC Rep. CCing you
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08:15:27 <kaz> Chair: Junichi
08:15:45 <kaz> junichi: the current Note, there are 5 sections
08:16:09 <kaz> ... section 1 is introduction, and section 2 is architecture
08:16:26 <kaz> ... would like to ask Adam and Kevin to review and revise the architecture section
08:16:35 <kaz> adam: can take Kevin's architecture
08:16:51 <kaz> kevin: we can adapt
08:17:41 <kaz> kaz: Junichi, do you want Kevin and Adam to merge their architecture with this section?
08:18:18 <kaz> junichi: at this moment, not sure if we can describe whole the JLR architecture, though
08:19:16 <junichi-hashimoto> https://www.w3.org/2016/04/auto-f2f/28/DSC_0073.JPG
08:19:45 <kaz> kaz: so your intention is not putting the JLR architecture diagram itself into this document
08:19:53 <kaz> ... but rather asking them for review?
08:19:56 <kaz> junichi: yes
08:20:18 <kaz> junichi: puts the URL of Paul's diagram from the Paris meeting
08:20:50 <kaz> kaz: in that case, you can put this picture itself into the wiki and the GitHub
08:20:52 <kaz> junichi: ok
08:21:03 <kaz> ... by the next call, I'll update the Note
08:21:51 <kaz> ... if you have any idea to be added, please make your contribution directly on the wiki
08:22:58 <kaz> kaz: when the section 2 will be fixed for the review?
08:23:06 <kaz> junichi: section 2 is already fixed
08:23:46 <kaz> volker: would be better to have the picture as well
08:23:51 <kaz> kaz: +1
08:23:56 <kaz> junichi: will do now
08:24:40 <kaz> s/now/it later/
08:25:03 <kaz> ... would like to confirm the timeline
08:25:16 <kaz> ... finish this document (Security Consideration) by TPAC 2016
08:25:34 <kaz> ... not sure we can/should include security consideration into the VSS
08:25:42 <kaz> ... probably based on another timeline
08:26:14 <kaz> s/VSS/Vehicle Service Spec/
08:26:36 <kaz> kaz: we need more discussion with the main WG about that
08:27:02 <kaz> junichi: ok
08:27:12 <kaz> ... from my side, that's all for today
08:27:21 <kaz> volker: have a question
08:27:34 <kaz> ... relationship between the wiki and the GitHub repo
08:28:06 <kaz> junichi: will put the materials from the GitHub to the wiki so that people can edit it easily
08:28:28 <kaz> ... and later will bring the materials back to GitHub
08:28:31 <kaz> volker: ok
08:28:43 <kaz> kaz: sounds good
08:29:41 <kaz> volker: do we have a US-friendly call and a JP/EU-friendly call alternatively?
08:30:20 <kaz> junichi: given the participation so far, JP/EU-friendly call would make sense
08:30:42 <kaz> ... the next call will be held on June 28th
08:30:58 <kaz> volker: will have a full-day workshop and can't make it
08:31:07 <kaz> ... Monday would be better
08:32:01 <kaz> (some more discussion)
08:32:10 <kaz> junichi: will send another doodle then :)
08:32:37 <kaz> ... see you next month!
08:32:40 <kaz> [ adjourned ]
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