16:59:03 RRSAgent has joined #aria-editors 16:59:03 logging to http://www.w3.org/2016/05/18-aria-editors-irc 16:59:10 Zakim has joined #aria-editors 16:59:13 meeting: ARIA Editors 16:59:13 regrets: Rich, Tzviya 16:59:13 agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-aria-editors/2016May/0012.html 16:59:13 agenda+ Cross references after repository split 16:59:13 agenda+ 1.0 Primer and Practices publication status 16:59:14 agenda+ TR HTTPS proposal https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/spec-prod/2016AprJun/0024.html 16:59:16 agenda+ Timeline check for June publications 16:59:18 agenda+ AOB 16:59:20 agenda+ Next meeting 16:59:22 chair: MichaelC 16:59:24 scribe: MichaelC 16:59:26 scribeOptions: -final 17:00:26 present+ MichaelC, Matt 17:02:29 present+ Joanmarie_Diggs 17:02:57 fesch has joined #aria-editors 17:03:17 present+ fesch 17:03:34 MichaelC has changed the topic to: ARIA Editors WebEx https://mit.webex.com/mit/e.php?MTID=maf6406b9f7fd09d67e2c4a1b5b36c034 17:05:23 MichaelC has changed the topic to: ARIA Editors WebEx https://mit.webex.com/mit/e.php?MTID=maf6406b9f7fd09d67e2c4a1b5b36c034 or +1-617-324-0000 passcode 649 133 539 17:05:26 jamesn has joined #aria-editors 17:05:33 present+ ShaneM 17:05:49 agenda? 17:06:29 zakim, next item 17:06:29 agendum 1. "Cross references after repository split" taken up [from MichaelC] 17:07:25 question of absolute or relative URIs in cross refs 17:07:49 general view that repositories should not depend on relationships to each other that isn' t a guaranteed constant 17:07:55 yet there is value in offline work 17:08:29 what happens if you load a doc offline using respec? 17:10:51 probably need to go with absolute URIs 17:11:03 need to sort out which URIs to use eg gh-pages or rawgit 17:13:10 zakim, next item 17:13:10 agendum 2. "1.0 Primer and Practices publication status" taken up [from MichaelC] 17:14:03 Rich has joined #aria-editors 17:14:46 action to retire 1.0 primer 17:14:46 Error finding 'to'. You can review and register nicknames at . 17:15:03 present+ Rich_Schwerdtfeger 17:15:11 also came up people are finding 1.0 Practices and following it 17:16:10 present+ ShaneM me is crying. we cant hear you now 17:16:31 present- ShaneM me is crying. we cant hear you now 17:16:37 present+ ShaneM 17:18:32 much of the primer migrated to practices, question of if there's more 17:18:40 present+ Michiel 17:18:52 present+ fesch 17:19:11 mck has joined #aria-editors 17:20:09 practices is missing some of the intro to how ARIA helps make interactive apps accessible 17:20:20 we have it in appendix i thought 17:20:38 it is in background on ARiA 17:20:54 Might want introductory info in https://www.w3.org/WAI/intro/aria 17:21:05 http://w3c.github.io/aria-practices/ 17:21:08 http://w3c.github.io/aria-practices/ 17:21:13 http://w3c.github.io/aria-practices/#appendices 17:22:25 the intro has a link to the appendix 17:22:30 it is there 17:23:06 i plan to update the appendix; low pri now 17:27:02 I plan to rewrite but much easier to rewrite than start from scratch 17:28:12 We will have a summary of benefits in the intro, but not all the background ... we can lead people to the appendix. 17:28:25 +1 17:29:23 so now ok to retire both 1.0 practices and primer 17:29:39 Just stage it in a branch? 17:29:53 need a CfC to retire these 17:30:13 1.0 Primer: https://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria-primer/ 17:30:30 1.0 Practices: https://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria-practices/ 17:30:49 also cause that URI to load content from 1.1 practices 17:31:44 zakim, next item 17:31:44 agendum 3. "TR HTTPS proposal https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/spec-prod/2016AprJun/0024.html" taken up [from MichaelC] 17:32:44 note that this is NOT true for namespaces... to the extend that we care about that 17:33:20 certain URIs in TR docs now must use https, not http 17:35:33 we don't have anything in the 1.1 guide that does not function in browsers yet 17:35:35 feel free to update, or MC will at publication 17:35:49 topic: Implementation readiness in Practices 17:35:55 some stuff in new Practices isn't implemented yet 17:36:07 1.0 Practices were all known to be implemented already 17:36:49 just mark new features as "1.1" so users know it's newer 17:37:17 remember no guarantee Practices will work in all browsers, it´s our recommendations 17:38:24 maybe point to an implementation report (such as the ARIA CR report) 17:38:26 We do not yet have 1.1 specific examples. we will do that. 17:38:55 zakim, next item 17:38:55 agendum 4. "Timeline check for June publications" taken up [from MichaelC] 17:39:08 :w 17:40:17 ARIA 1.1 pseudo-LC was targeted for June 17:40:52 needs a top-bottom read-through 17:41:34 and some outstanding issues to close 17:41:50 https://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/products/17 17:44:07 sounds like we should be on track for that 17:44:51 https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-aria/2016May/0113.html 17:45:33 I have 2 things that have come up about separator role and autocomplete; they are simple I will make branches in the next few days. 17:45:53 hello?????? 17:46:17 keyshortcuts is in progress; will be done. 17:46:22 may be no other specs to publish along with it 17:49:14 then I want these 2 things on agenda for May 19: separator role, autocomplete 17:49:49 rich see my request???? 17:50:00 I hear 17:50:25 i will make branches today 17:50:42 we found problem with separator role in APG 17:50:50 Matt: those are not logged issues 17:51:40 separator says it is functional but it is not a widget; that causes problems 17:51:55 it is GOOD 17:52:39 17:53:10 let´s target 16 June as the publication date 17:53:22 need WG approval 9 June 17:53:23 autocomplete was part of action 1743 17:53:30 oops 1490 17:54:04 any other specs, let MC know 2 weeks before publication 17:54:29 zakim, next item 17:54:29 agendum 5. "AOB" taken up [from MichaelC] 17:54:40 make webex work 17:55:16 zakim, close this item 17:55:16 agendum 5 closed 17:55:17 I see 1 item remaining on the agenda: 17:55:17 6. Next meeting [from MichaelC] 17:55:19 zakim, next item 17:55:19 agendum 6. "Next meeting" taken up [from MichaelC] 17:55:24 Next meeting is 1 June 2016 17:55:55 rrsagent, bye 17:56:02 rrsagent, make log world 17:56:11 rrsagent, make minutes 17:56:11 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/05/18-aria-editors-minutes.html MichaelC 18:00:49 present+ JamesN 18:01:08 rrsagent, make minutes 18:01:08 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/05/18-aria-editors-minutes.html MichaelC 18:01:10 rrsagent, bye 18:01:10 I see no action items