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14:15:53 <aphillip> trackbot, prepare teleconference
14:15:55 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
14:15:57 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 4186
14:15:57 <Zakim> ok, trackbot
14:15:58 <trackbot> Meeting: Internationalization Working Group Teleconference
14:15:58 <trackbot> Date: 28 April 2016
14:16:18 <aphillip> Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2016Apr/0030.html
14:16:24 <aphillip> Chair: Addison Phillips
14:16:28 <aphillip> Scribe: Addison Phillips
14:16:33 <aphillip> ScribeNick: aphillip
14:16:34 <r12a> your'e off to an early start !
14:17:26 <aphillip> Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2016Apr/0035.html
14:17:37 <aphillip> Regrets+ Felix
14:17:52 <aphillip> agenda+ Radar and Active Work Review
14:18:09 <aphillip> agenda+ remove the topic index from the i18n subsite
14:18:28 <aphillip> agenda+ Definition of whitespace
14:18:39 <aphillip> agenda+ HTML issues
14:19:00 <aphillip> agenda+ <q> element
14:22:30 <r12a> agenda+ i18n-discuss repo?
14:22:45 <aphillip> Regrets+ Steve Atkin
15:02:09 <r12a> nope
15:02:24 <r12a> regrets+ Dave
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15:05:23 <JcK> present+ JcK
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15:08:00 <aphillip> Topic: Agenda
15:09:00 <aphillip> agenda?
15:09:57 <aphillip> Topic: Action Items
15:10:07 <aphillip> https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
15:10:42 <aphillip> action-483?
15:10:42 <trackbot> action-483 -- Addison Phillips to Review close marked webvtt issues and close if satisfied -- due 2015-11-26 -- OPEN
15:10:42 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/483
15:10:48 <aphillip> close action-483
15:10:48 <trackbot> Closed action-483.
15:11:02 <aphillip> close action-495
15:11:02 <trackbot> Closed action-495.
15:11:38 <aphillip> close action-507
15:11:38 <trackbot> Closed action-507.
15:11:49 <aphillip> close action-508
15:11:50 <trackbot> Closed action-508.
15:12:11 <aphillip> close action-509
15:12:11 <trackbot> Closed action-509.
15:12:23 <aphillip> action-510?
15:12:23 <trackbot> action-510 -- Richard Ishida to Write a wiki page on <q> element proposal using extracts from the email discussion -- due 2016-04-21 -- OPEN
15:12:23 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/510
15:12:53 <r12a> http://w3c.github.io/i18n-discuss/default-quote-styling
15:13:01 <aphillip> close action-510
15:13:01 <trackbot> Closed action-510.
15:13:06 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/04/28-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
15:13:10 <aphillip> Topic: Info Share
15:13:33 <aphillip> Welcoming new member: Rebeca Ruiz
15:15:13 <aphillip> rebeca: work for a publishing services company
15:15:32 <aphillip> ... publishing technology and standards
15:16:16 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/04/28-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
15:18:41 <aphillip> (intros made)
15:19:06 <aphillip> agenda?
15:19:15 <r12a> https://discourse.wicg.io/
15:19:31 <aphillip> richard: web platform development, when it's a question of new features
15:19:44 <aphillip> ... try to use new features, web incubator coordination group
15:19:52 <aphillip> ... do their discussion in "discourse"
15:19:57 <aphillip> ... things come up from time to time
15:20:15 <aphillip> ... there's stuff on top on whitespace, for example
15:20:23 <aphillip> ... not sure if you were aware
15:20:32 <aphillip> addison: suggestion for how to track?
15:20:58 <aphillip> richard: what could do is raise issue in our review tracker and give it a track label
15:21:55 <aphillip> action: richard: check if discource for wicg can add notifier for an i18n label
15:21:55 <trackbot> Created ACTION-511 - Check if discource for wicg can add notifier for an i18n label [on Richard Ishida - due 2016-05-05].
15:22:08 <aphillip> agenda?
15:22:19 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/04/28-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
15:22:25 <aphillip> zakim, take up agendum 1
15:22:25 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Radar and Active Work Review" taken up [from aphillip]
15:22:32 <aphillip> http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/radar/
15:23:55 <aphillip> http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/projects/
15:25:13 <aphillip> agenda?
15:25:41 <aphillip> zakim, take up agendum 2
15:25:41 <Zakim> agendum 2. "remove the topic index from the i18n subsite" taken up [from aphillip]
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15:26:53 <r12a> https://www.w3.org/International/
15:27:14 <r12a> https://www.w3.org/International/resource-index
15:28:04 <aphillip> richard: the above link lets you find things by topic/subtopic
15:28:07 <aphillip> ... hard to maintain
15:36:31 <rebecaruiz> Have you seen this by Dave Cramer? https://www.w3.org/TR/dpub-latinreq/
15:36:50 <aphillip> action: richard: send www-international an email about removing topic index and prepare new home page and other page mods as needed to support that
15:36:51 <trackbot> Created ACTION-512 - Send www-international an email about removing topic index and prepare new home page and other page mods as needed to support that [on Richard Ishida - due 2016-05-05].
15:37:03 <aphillip> agenda?
15:37:29 <aphillip> zakim, take up agendum 3
15:37:29 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Definition of whitespace" taken up [from aphillip]
15:37:46 <aphillip> richard: responded to stephen p saying we need more use cases
15:37:56 <aphillip> ... ask if we can make this topic more visible?
15:38:52 <aphillip> zakim, take up agendum 6
15:38:52 <Zakim> agendum 6. "i18n-discuss repo?" taken up [from r12a]
15:39:03 <aphillip> richard: we have a thread on q element
15:39:08 <aphillip> ... which I have unleashed
15:39:26 <aphillip> ... split from default ml styling of quotes
15:39:43 <aphillip> ... discussion got forked to a single list
15:39:59 <aphillip> ... it's a recurring problem
15:40:11 <aphillip> ... messages tend to "spread out" and discuss subtopics
15:40:24 <aphillip> ... if in a github issue, easier to police
15:40:34 <aphillip> ... and to get folks to split off to a new issue if needed
15:40:49 <aphillip> ... it would be useful to hold discussion in github instead of mail
15:40:55 <aphillip> richard: in addition, summary in wiki
15:41:02 <aphillip> ... struggling to produce in wiki
15:41:15 <aphillip> ... gave up and built html and dumped into wiki
15:41:52 <aphillip> ... could do both issue handling and document storage in same github repository
15:41:56 <aphillip> ... and so......
15:42:12 <aphillip> ... I went off and careated "i18n-discuss" repo
15:42:16 <r12a> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-discuss
15:42:24 <najib> +1 to move issue to github
15:42:37 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/04/28-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
15:48:31 <aphillip> agenda?
15:51:15 <aphillip> zakim, take up agendum 5
15:51:15 <Zakim> agendum 5. "<q> element" taken up [from aphillip]
15:51:47 <aphillip> richard: need to raise an issue on html5 list
15:51:57 <aphillip> ... think there is a problem with the default styling in rendering section of html5
15:52:02 <aphillip> ... would like you to discuss
15:52:16 <aphillip> ... this is not about whether <q> is a good idea, etc.
15:52:27 <aphillip> ... just focused on the specific default rendering in section 10
15:52:42 <aphillip> addison: what you set out to do in first place
15:53:31 <aphillip> ... raise on their list or by issue?
15:53:36 <aphillip> richard: raise an issue
15:53:45 <aphillip> ... just to be clear, suggesting that
15:53:52 <aphillip> ... groundswell in dpub
15:54:05 <aphillip> ... quotations should by default follow outer language
15:54:11 <aphillip> ... florian offered an option
15:54:26 <aphillip> ... or just use html @lang
15:55:03 <aphillip> addison: i support doing that?
15:55:07 <aphillip> +1
15:55:33 <aphillip> jck: +1 as long as noted I haven't changed mind in last week
15:55:50 <rebecaruiz> +1
15:55:52 <aphillip> richard: if need something else, style it
15:56:21 <aphillip> action: richard: raise an issue against html about default q-styling
15:56:21 <trackbot> Created ACTION-513 - Raise an issue against html about default q-styling [on Richard Ishida - due 2016-05-05].
15:57:03 <aphillip> zakim, take up agendum 4
15:57:03 <Zakim> agendum 4. "HTML issues" taken up [from aphillip]
15:58:29 <r12a> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/labels/html
15:58:59 <aphillip> addison: summarizes html's actions
15:59:09 <aphillip> richard: went through and added things to the list above
15:59:18 <aphillip> ... pretty well all of these were closed in our tracker
15:59:38 <aphillip> ... but reopened the ones that seemed to have things going on
16:00:07 <aphillip> addison: will go through my inbox
16:00:19 <aphillip> richard: some additional issues in their list
16:00:30 <aphillip> ... probably necessary and go through their list
16:00:41 <aphillip> addison: any 5.1?
16:01:30 <aphillip> richard: want closure by end of may
16:01:43 <aphillip> addison: keep an agenda item for next week
16:01:47 <aphillip> Topic: AOB?
16:02:35 <aphillip> Present: Addison, Richard, JcK, Rebeca, Najib (via IRC)
16:02:43 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/04/28-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
16:03:23 <aphillip> zakim, bye
16:03:23 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees have been Addison, Richard, JcK, Rebeca, Najib, (via, IRC)
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16:03:28 <aphillip> rrsagent, bye
16:03:28 <RRSAgent> I see 3 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2016/04/28-i18n-actions.rdf :
16:03:28 <RRSAgent> ACTION: richard: check if discource for wicg can add notifier for an i18n label [1]
16:03:28 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/04/28-i18n-irc#T15-21-55
16:03:28 <RRSAgent> ACTION: richard: send www-international an email about removing topic index and prepare new home page and other page mods as needed to support that [2]
16:03:28 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/04/28-i18n-irc#T15-36-50
16:03:28 <RRSAgent> ACTION: richard: raise an issue against html about default q-styling [3]
16:03:28 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/04/28-i18n-irc#T15-56-21