See also: IRC log
action-174?
<trackbot> action-174 -- Addison Phillips to Write article about floating times in HTML -- due 2013-01-30 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/174
http://w3c.github.io/i18n-drafts/questions/qa-floating-times.en.html
<r12a> https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open?sort=owner
action-505?
<trackbot> action-505 -- Addison Phillips to Prepare updated unicode-xml disclaimer text for publication as a placeholding wg note while martin et al get started working on updates -- due 2016-04-07 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/505
close action-505
<trackbot> Closed action-505.
close action-506
<trackbot> Closed action-506.
Felix: make you aware of a GALA
webinar
... abstract doesn't talk about standards, but talking about
ITS and various standards, community standards, CGs
... open to non-GALA members
... 28 April, if available please join
<fsasaki> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-annotation/2016Apr/0040.html
felix: text processing, using ITS
to do that
... don't want to store HTML but web annotations
... just submitted, see what their reaction is
http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/radar/
http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/projects/
richard: asked felix to provide
some info from "his neck of the woods"
... the CGs listed are not under the I18N activity
... but would be something we would follow
... there's another under previous column (bpmlod)
... felix, are there high level milestones??
... for bpmlod or the other CGs?
felix: can add them
richard: keep high level, maybe 2 or 3
addison: different color or something for non-WG/IG stuff?
felix: some of these are
developing technologies, others doing best practices
... suggest to put under these items
... not under i18n
richard: scroll down and you see
track industry is a horizontal
... list CGs in a similar manner?
... are we publishing bpmlod eventually?
felix: we announce and such
... in the blog
... could be
richard: would keep bpmlod where it is now
felix: update is processing web
annotation
... way to store ITS as linked data
... being developed as a best practice
... put the link in (earlier)
... can do term annotations
... term data category
... currently on implementation side
richard: martin has closed one issue
addison: should we publish updated unicode-xml updated Note with the placeholder text on UTR status?
<fsasaki> +1
+1
<r12a> +1
<JcK> To the extent to which I understand the current piece of the issue, +1
so resolved
richard: check with martin to get
a clear response on the disclaimer from him
... may need me to do this to do echidna
addison: *just* do WDs in github??
<scribe> ACTION: richard: double check handling of note status for unicode-xml while we work on it [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/04/14-i18n-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-507 - Double check handling of note status for unicode-xml while we work on it [on Richard Ishida - due 2016-04-21].
<scribe> ACTION: richard: publish updated unicode-xml Note based on results of action-507 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/04/14-i18n-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-508 - Publish updated unicode-xml note based on results of action-507 [on Richard Ishida - due 2016-04-21].
<r12a> http://w3c.github.io/i18n-drafts/articles/ruby/markup.en.html
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2016AprJun/0003.html Ruby Markup http://w3c.github.io/i18n-drafts/articles/ruby/markup.en.html
richard: go to wide review?
<scribe> ACTION: addison: remind WG members to definitely read ruby/markup.en.html for next week [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/04/14-i18n-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-509 - Remind wg members to definitely read ruby/markup.en.html for next week [on Addison Phillips - due 2016-04-21].
richard: just to add to that,
refrehsed tests for ruby
... both htnml and css
... ported test script to js only
... no php
... just finished, a few small changes in the page
... updated the results
... some changes
addison: positive changes?
richard: yes, but not far
enough
... added canary and webkit
richard: various people made useful suggestions
addison: mostly that the outer document language should control?
richard: there is a problem with
that
... been working on testing
... look first to see if borwser puts quotes
... then if they follow the language specific qutation
marks
... FF does not
... chrome does what HTML/CLDR say
... third set and probably need to fourth set
... do browsers use the outside language or not?
... FF does, but only because it doesn't pay attention
... one thing that came to light things we've looked at so far
it makes sense to use outer language
... if you have words "one" "two" and "three"
and you put lang=en at beginning of para
scribe: then have spans with lang=ja
<p> one <span lang=ja>two</span> <q lang=ja>three</q></p>
<r12a> <p lang=en>one <span>two <q lang=ja>three</q></span></p>
<r12a> <p lang=en>one <span lang=ja>two <q>three</q></span></p>
richard: this last one
... if apply "lang out side outer q", then japanese quotes
addison: containing block
element? but seems problematic
... it's only a problem when languages are mixed
jck: would be far too problematic to understand if very complex
addison: two possibilities
jck: could be counter-intuitive
richard: lang on q is the
language *of the contents*
... but the quotes belong to the *surrounding* text
addison: also they wanted q-transitivity, q within a q would use same quotes
richard: upshot
... 1. need an element that explains how it works and how to
style them
... 2. tell HTML the default behaviour isn't quite right
... 3. tell CSS also
... next steps are to finish off tests
... go back to e-books and here's this one bit that doesn't
work well and propose to do nothing about it
<scribe> ACTION: richard: write a wiki page on <q> element proposal using extracts from the email discussion [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/04/14-i18n-minutes.html#action04]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-510 - Write a wiki page on <q> element proposal using extracts from the email discussion [on Richard Ishida - due 2016-04-21].
<scribe> ScribeNick: aphillip
<scribe> Scribe: Addison Phillips