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20:00:35 <trackbot> Meeting: WebFonts Working Group Teleconference
20:00:35 <trackbot> Date: 06 April 2016
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20:01:55 <Vlad> present+
20:03:02 <RSheeter> present+
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20:04:21 <RSheeter> chair: vlad
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20:04:49 <RSheeter> pedestal: vlad
20:04:52 <behdad> yo
20:04:57 <RSheeter> scribenick: rsheeter
20:04:58 <RSheeter> hey
20:06:10 <RSheeter> Topic: Mugshots
20:07:08 <RSheeter> Looking for pictures with color and awesomeness people
20:08:06 <RSheeter> Topic: Action Items
20:08:23 <RSheeter> Vlad: mobile perf? (which action ?)
20:08:46 <RSheeter> kuettel: started, looks good for woff2. Need to capture and share.
20:09:12 <RSheeter> action-116?
20:09:12 <trackbot> action-116 -- David Kuettel to Decoder performance analysis on mobile devices -- due 2016-04-06 -- OPEN
20:09:12 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/116
20:10:51 <RSheeter> Vlad: A visual explanation of overall time consumed (load, decompress, etc) would be nice to have
20:20:01 <RSheeter> (discussion of what data we want and how we might obtain it; item due date pushed out)
20:20:18 <RSheeter> action-172?
20:20:18 <trackbot> action-172 -- Chris Lilley to Register font media types -- due 2016-04-30 -- OPEN
20:20:18 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/172
20:21:25 <RSheeter> Vlad: seems to be moving along nicely
20:21:30 <RSheeter> action-186?
20:21:30 <trackbot> action-186 -- Roderick Sheeter to Try time (decode) and size for null glyf/loca xform vs regular vs woff1 -- due 2016-03-16 -- OPEN
20:21:30 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/186
20:22:21 <RSheeter> Me: Have first draft but suspicious of one set of #'s, wnat to poke more before publishing
20:22:30 <RSheeter> action-199?
20:22:30 <trackbot> action-199 -- Khaled Hosny Ghetas to Investigate how we actually verify at tests, particularly how we verify internal handling. -- due 2016-03-30 -- OPEN
20:22:30 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/199
20:22:47 <RSheeter> (no update, push date for now)
20:23:05 <RSheeter> Topic: Test Suite
20:23:33 <RSheeter> mustRejectInvalidBase128
20:23:45 <RSheeter> mustNotRejectIncorrectTotalSize
20:24:06 <RSheeter> https://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/wiki/TestPlan20-UserAgent
20:24:56 <RSheeter> mustLoadFontCollection - test looks fine; might be worth adding a note that no UA actually supports at this time
20:26:05 <RSheeter> Vlad: might be good to discuss at TPAC
20:26:16 <RSheeter> mustNotRejectGlyfSizeMismatch
20:26:33 <RSheeter> https://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/wiki/TestPlan20-Decoder
20:26:39 <RSheeter> mustReconstructLSBs
20:26:58 <RSheeter> mustLoadFontCollection
20:26:58 <RSheeter>     - I read the test as meaning it would be OK to unshare the tables as long as the result was a valid collection. Maybe clarify that there should be no change in which tables are/are not shared?
20:29:21 <RSheeter> jfkthame: maybe that's OK specwise even if it's an inefficient implementation
20:31:19 <RSheeter> https://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/wiki/TestPlan20-Format
20:31:24 <RSheeter> reservedFlagsMustBeZero
20:31:37 <RSheeter> transformFlagsMustBeSet
20:31:48 <RSheeter> I think there was discussion of how this would actually be verified. Maybe one simple way would be just by looking at the transformed length and flags? - it should have these X flags and be Y bytes smaller type of deal.
20:35:24 <RSheeter> (discussion of The Validator)
20:36:10 <RSheeter> https://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/wiki/TestPlan20-AuthoringTool
20:36:21 <RSheeter> mustCheckLSBAllGlyfTables, mustNotApplyLSBTransformForOTC
20:36:29 <RSheeter> Marked for attention but seem fine
20:36:37 <RSheeter> Vlad: because I snuck them in while you were not looking
20:39:09 <RSheeter> Vlad: That leaves us with just implementation for tests )
20:39:22 <RSheeter> Topic: In Your Face at ATypI
20:39:55 <RSheeter> Vlad: ATypI will be good for our group. TPAC will offer a chance to chat with other groups, such as with CSS about fragments and collections.
20:40:10 <RSheeter> Vlad: and the wooorld of tomorrow
20:41:57 <RSheeter> Vlad: js api for deeper access to fonts, subsets, loading, etc might be a fun area to explore.
20:42:34 <RSheeter> Vlad: Further suggestions welcome, including going outside current charter
20:50:09 <RSheeter> behdad: maybe something about variations, css, better compressing them?
20:52:55 <RSheeter> kuettel: unicode-range issues might be fun to chat with css group about
20:55:34 <RSheeter> kuettel: so are we definitely doing both? (atypi, tpac)
20:56:18 <RSheeter> vlad: strongly recommended
20:57:02 <RSheeter> Vlad: last call
20:57:30 <RSheeter> zakim, list attendees
20:57:30 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been Vlad, RSheeter
20:57:35 <RSheeter> present+ behdad
20:57:39 <RSheeter> present+ kuettel
20:57:46 <RSheeter> present+ kenlundeadobe
20:57:50 <RSheeter> zakim, list attendees
20:57:50 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been Vlad, RSheeter, behdad, kuettel, kenlundeadobe
20:58:00 <RSheeter> present+ jfkthame
20:58:09 <RSheeter> rrsagent, make minutes
20:58:09 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/04/06-webfonts-minutes.html RSheeter
20:58:20 <RSheeter> Vlad: And send the mugshots! The more color and spectacle the better!
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