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20:03:40 <phila> trackbot, help
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20:04:11 <ahaller2> i can't connect
20:04:28 <ahaller2> even not to phil's link
20:04:46 <phila> trackbot, associate this channel with #swd
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20:05:23 <JRamsay> Present+ JRamsay
20:06:16 <phila> '/invite trackbot'
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20:06:50 <SefkiKolozali_UniS_> present+ Sefki Kolozali
20:06:52 <KJanowicz> i can do it
20:07:12 <ahaller2> i still can not connect, not through the phone number either
20:07:19 <kerry> scribe: KJanowicz
20:07:35 <kerry> Scribenick: KJanowicz
20:08:06 <KJanowicz> Can somebody add me to the webprotege ssn version or point me to the right link
20:08:11 <kerry> armin, meeting number is 647 066 501
20:08:18 <ahaller2> it does not wokr
20:08:37 <kerry> pw is sdwssn
20:08:37 <phila> zakim, code?
20:08:37 <Zakim> I have been told this is SDW SSN https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=m7fa998124d164729c095b8c83a45f52d or +1-617-324-0000 access 647 066 501
20:08:38 <KJanowicz> The pw is at the top line of this chat
20:09:27 <phila> zakim, this is https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=m358ba130b41247b188253f7775b937cc, access no. 647 066 501
20:09:27 <Zakim> got it, phila
20:09:36 <phila> zakim, save these details
20:09:36 <Zakim> I don't understand 'save these details', phila
20:09:47 <phila> zakim, help
20:09:47 <Zakim> Please refer to http://www.w3.org/2001/12/zakim-irc-bot for more detailed help.
20:09:50 <Zakim> Some of the commands I know are:
20:09:50 <Zakim>  xxx is yyy       - establish yyy as the name of unknown party xxx
20:09:50 <Zakim>                     if yyy is 'me' or 'I', your nick is substituted
20:09:51 <Zakim>  xxx may be yyy   - establish yyy as possibly the name of unknown party xxx
20:09:51 <Zakim>  I am xxx         - establish your nick as the name of unknown party xxx
20:09:51 <Zakim>  xxx holds yyy [, zzz ...] - establish xxx as a group name and yyy, etc. as participants within that group
20:09:51 <Zakim>  xxx also holds yyy - add yyy to the list of participants in group xxx
20:09:51 <Zakim>  who's here?      - lists the participants on the phone
20:09:51 <Zakim>  who's muted?     - lists the participants who are muted
20:09:51 <Zakim>  mute xxx         - mutes party xxx (like pressing 61#)
20:09:52 <Zakim>  unmute xxx       - reverses the effect of "mute" and of 61#
20:09:52 <Zakim>  is xxx here?     - reports whether a party named like xxx is present
20:09:52 <Zakim>  list conferences - reports the active conferences
20:09:53 <Zakim>  this is xxx      - associates this channel with conference xxx
20:09:53 <Zakim>  excuse us        - disconnects from the irc channel
20:09:53 <Zakim> I last learned something new on $Date: 2015/08/27 01:09:18 $
20:11:19 <phila> zakim, save this conference description
20:11:19 <Zakim> this conference description has been saved, phila
20:11:24 <phila> zakim, code?
20:11:24 <Zakim> I have been told this is https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=m358ba130b41247b188253f7775b937cc, access no. 647 066 501
20:11:28 <ClausStadler> present+ ClausStadler
20:11:33 <phila> present+ phila
20:11:41 <kerry> present + keerry
20:11:46 <kerry> present+ kerry
20:11:48 <KJanowicz> @ahaller2: can you please give me editing rights on the ssn at webprotege?
20:11:48 <phila> RRSAgent, make logs public
20:11:52 <ahaller2> present+ ahaller2
20:12:17 <phila> kerry: Joel Ramsay is here from ANU who will be doing some work around IoT Lite
20:12:29 <SefkiKolozali_UniS_> present+ SefkiKolozali_UniS_
20:12:32 <phila> present- keerry
20:12:36 <JRamsay> Can you not hear me?
20:12:41 <KJanowicz> No
20:12:51 <JRamsay> Okay, I'll work on that here.
20:12:55 <SimonCox> present?
20:13:05 <SimonCox> present
20:13:06 <phila> RRSAgent, draft minutes
20:13:06 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/03/22-sdwssn-minutes.html phila
20:13:23 <phila> kerry: Sefki from Uni Surrey, works with Payam
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20:13:33 <KJanowicz> Kerry: Sefki joint the group working on the SSN
20:13:45 <phila> chair: Kerry
20:13:55 <kerry> Present+ kerry
20:13:55 <KJanowicz> present+
20:13:56 <SimonCox> who is here?
20:14:17 <joshlieberman> present+ joshlieberman
20:14:22 <joshlieberman> webbed pw?
20:14:34 <joshlieberman> ...webex
20:14:43 <phila> RRSAgent, draft minutes
20:14:43 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/03/22-sdwssn-minutes.html phila
20:15:13 <KJanowicz> Likely me
20:15:41 <kerry> patent call: https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Patent_Call
20:16:04 <phila> Topic: Time changes
20:16:06 <kerry> topic: world time changes
20:16:32 <phila> agenda: https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Meetings:SSN-Telecon20160322
20:16:37 <KJanowicz> Kerry: we already changed the meeting time for the main meeting of the entire group.
20:16:55 <KJanowicz> Kerry: what about the SSN meeting?
20:17:32 <KJanowicz> I would hope we can stay at the time we had
20:17:50 <joshlieberman> hakim, code?
20:17:56 <joshlieberman> hakim, code?
20:17:57 <KJanowicz> Can't we stay with the times we agreed on before?
20:18:11 <joshlieberman> zakim, code?
20:18:11 <Zakim> I have been told this is https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=m358ba130b41247b188253f7775b937cc, access no. 647 066 501
20:18:38 <KJanowicz> Kerry can you post the timeanddate link?
20:19:28 <ahaller2> 1:00pm utc
20:19:57 <KJanowicz> This time would not work for me
20:20:05 <phila> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=SDWWG+Call&iso=20160406T13&ah=1
20:20:38 <KJanowicz> What is wrong with the times we agreed on recently?
20:20:40 <phila> Next SSN Meeting will be at http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=SDWWG+Call&iso=20160405T13&ah=1
20:20:43 <KJanowicz> q+
20:20:55 <kerry> ack KJanowicz
20:21:04 <SimonCox> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?iso=20160322&p1=152&p2=195&p4=263&p5=224
20:21:18 <phila> Which is 23:00 in Canberra
20:21:40 <phila> Europe changes this weekend
20:21:51 <phila> (Last weekend in March)
20:22:06 <SimonCox> Look at this: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?iso=20160406&p1=152&p2=195&p4=263&p5=224
20:22:41 <phila> KJanowicz: Can everyone get their fair share of suffering, i.e. make it late Tuesday/early Wednesday
20:23:01 <ahaller2> i prefer later at night
20:23:11 <phila> phila: As a European, I am lucky - all times work for us :-)
20:23:25 <ahaller2> if that helps Krzysztof
20:23:31 <JRamsay> As anAussie, I would prefer 1pm UTC, but as a newbie, Ill go with what you guys choose.
20:23:36 <KJanowicz> yes 2pm would already help me a lot
20:23:59 <KJanowicz> I cannot hear josh very well
20:24:05 <KJanowicz> +1
20:25:02 <KJanowicz> would the time right now work for all of us?
20:25:18 <kerry> password is sdwssn
20:25:31 <phila> s/password is sdwssn//
20:26:32 <KJanowicz> kerry: this would be 6am for you and 12/1 for the us west coast
20:26:59 <phila> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=SDWWG+Call&iso=20160405T14&ah=1
20:27:13 <KJanowicz> That would also work for me
20:27:34 <KJanowicz> 7am
20:28:40 <KJanowicz> We already have the main meeting at 6am pacific so it would be great to have the ssn meeting at another time
20:29:25 <phila> PROPOSAL 1: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=SDWWG+Call&iso=20160405T14&ah=1
20:29:44 <phila> PROPOSAL 2:www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=SDWWG+Call&iso=20160405T13&ah=1
20:29:53 <KJanowicz> phila: listing proposals for meeting times for ssn meeting
20:30:27 <ahaller2> +1 for Proposal 1
20:30:33 <SefkiKolozali_UniS_> 14:00 UTC is fine with me. It seems like it is 15:00PM in the UK.
20:30:51 <SimonCox> Proposal 3 - http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2016&month=4&day=6&hour=20&min=0&sec=0&p1=152&p2=195&p3=263&p4=224
20:31:00 <phila> PROPOSAL 3: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=SDWWG+Call&iso=20160405T20&ah=1
20:31:15 <KJanowicz> +1 for proposal 3
20:31:55 <KJanowicz> I can also survive proposal 1
20:32:02 <SimonCox> +1 for #3
20:32:06 <kerry> +1 for prop 2
20:32:17 <JRamsay> +1 for proposal 2
20:32:36 <joshlieberman> +1 for 1,2, or 3
20:32:57 <kerry> 2nd choice proposal 3
20:33:00 <ahaller2> I think proposal 2 was ruled out
20:33:14 <SefkiKolozali_UniS_> +1 for proposal 1,2
20:33:28 <ahaller2> for the benefit of KJanowicz
20:33:33 <KJanowicz> thx
20:34:41 <SimonCox> Can't we use Doodle for this instead of taking time during call?
20:35:53 <joshlieberman> KJanowicz -- recruit 3 more participants?
20:36:27 <KJanowicz> i tried but they dropped out due to the meeting times, e.g., Karl
20:36:31 <ahaller2> kerry you vote for ANU
20:37:46 <ahaller2> it only works if you screw the europeans
20:37:54 <SimonCox> http://doodle.com/poll/qv27iwwvfxzr2bzzng43aedy/admin#table
20:38:23 <SimonCox> http://doodle.com/poll/qv27iwwvfxzr2bzz
20:38:33 <KJanowicz> ahaller2: ah, I see
20:38:34 <joshlieberman> 21h UTC?
20:39:17 <ahaller2> 11PM UTC works well for SYD and SFO
20:39:17 <phila> 21h UTC would be http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=SDWWG+Call&iso=20160405T21&ah=1
20:39:36 <KJanowicz> it would work for me
20:40:07 <KJanowicz> kerry it would be 8am for you
20:40:23 <KJanowicz> same heree
20:41:09 <ClausStadler> for me all the times so far worked (europe)
20:41:09 <kerry> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=SDWWG+Call&iso=20160405T20&ah=1
20:42:01 <KJanowicz> 21h UTC would be http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=SDWWG+Call&iso=20160405T21&ah=1
20:43:21 <KJanowicz> PROPOSAL 4: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=SDWWG+Call&iso=20160405T21&ah=1
20:43:45 <SimonCox> http://doodle.com/poll/qv27iwwvfxzr2bzz
20:46:27 <KJanowicz> q+
20:47:10 <KJanowicz> So, can we agree on the 21 UTC
20:48:39 <KJanowicz> q+
20:48:51 <kerry> ack KJanowicz
20:49:58 <KJanowicz> Based on the poll (7 1 1) it looks like 21 UTC, right?
20:51:45 <KJanowicz> Thank you very much Sefki
20:52:00 <KJanowicz> decision: new meeting time is 21 UTC
20:52:08 <kerry> decision: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=SDWWG+Call&iso=20160405T21&ah=1
20:52:42 <phila> RESOLUTION: SSN Meetings will take place at http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=SDWWG+Call&iso=20160405T21&ah=1 until end October
20:53:19 <KJanowicz> not so far
20:53:31 <ahaller2> i did
20:53:37 <KJanowicz> kjano
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20:54:58 <ahaller2> you mean do it jeremy's way on the wiki?
20:55:38 <KJanowicz> q+
20:56:02 <joshlieberman> Editing on branches allows changes to be reviewed before merging...
20:56:06 <KJanowicz> +1
20:56:21 <KJanowicz> Can we draft on the wiki? as we did for the ssn xg.
20:56:49 <kerry> ack KJanowicz
20:59:18 <phila> RRSAgent, draft minutes
20:59:18 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/03/22-sdwssn-minutes.html phila
21:00:35 <joshlieberman> +1 to Github procedure -- gets easier as  more documents get developed that way.
21:01:28 <KJanowicz> Agreement to use the Github procedure
21:02:19 <KJanowicz> Kerry to post github instructions
21:02:27 <joshlieberman> bye
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21:02:31 <KJanowicz> bye bye
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21:02:58 <phila> Meeting: SDW SSN Sub Group bi-weekly
21:03:01 <phila> RRSAgent, draft minutes
21:03:01 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/03/22-sdwssn-minutes.html phila
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