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14:55:57 <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Media Task Force Teleconference
14:55:57 <trackbot> Date: 15 March 2016
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14:59:59 <paulc> zakim, who is on the phone?
14:59:59 <Zakim> Present: paulc, jdsmith
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15:01:57 <paulc> its the one with "EME AND MSE" on it
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15:03:21 <plh> scribe: plh
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15:04:38 <plh> agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-archive/2016Mar/0002.html
15:04:46 <paulc> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-archive/2016Mar/0003.html
15:05:09 <paulc> who is present?
15:05:23 <ddorwin> present+ ddorwin
15:05:49 <plh> Topic: MSE CR test suite status including merger of 2nd batch of Blink tests
15:06:11 <plh> Matt: no update yet. we're getting traction internally
15:06:19 <plh> ... taking longer than it should
15:06:50 <plh> Paul: are Alex and Chris in the loop?
15:06:54 <plh> Matt: Alex is
15:07:11 <plh> ... but other folks have been the ones making sure we get the ok
15:07:55 <paulc> rrsagent, generate the minutes
15:07:55 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/03/15-html-media-minutes.html paulc
15:08:07 <plh> Topic: MSE Increasing CR test suite coverage
15:09:10 <plh> Yosuke: talked to plh about this and was waiting for reply from Google but takes longer than expected. just starting to write additional test codes, will send PRs next week
15:09:33 <plh> ... wanted to merge the blink second batch first but time is pressing
15:09:58 <plh> Paul: what percent of coverage are we missing?
15:10:09 <plh> Yosuke: currently, we have 25% coverage...
15:11:07 <plh> Topic: MSE Status of 12 "needs implementation" issues
15:11:31 <plh> Paul: we now have 10 issues
15:11:38 <plh> ... not much progress in last 2 weeks
15:11:44 <plh> ... Jerry has 6, Matt has 4
15:11:48 <paulc> https://github.com/w3c/media-source/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22needs+implementation%22
15:12:53 <plh> Matt: 2 major things I've been working on: triage of EME issues. also requested sanity check on issues 19, 20, 26
15:13:05 <plh> ... I believe we're closed to be done with those
15:13:20 <plh> ... original scope is laid out
15:13:50 <plh> Jerry: looking at the request from Matt
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15:14:13 <MattWolenetz> s/triage of EME issues/working to help define the common triage process for both EME and MSE issues/
15:14:44 <plh> Matt: I have most of my schedule cleared to make progress on MSE
15:15:34 <plh> Paul: I tagged on issue ? regarding an html spec...
15:15:50 <plh> Matt: would that become a blocking thing?
15:16:45 <plh> Paul: web platform is working on a new version of html5, if we're going to rec on schedule, we'd be in sync
15:16:59 <plh> plh: the change would be made in html only if it reflects implementation reality
15:18:38 <plh> Topic: Jerry's MSE pull request pending review
15:18:43 <plh> Jerry: we're done
15:18:54 <plh> Topic: Other MSE pull requests
15:19:31 <plh> Jerry: only one that needs action is #17
15:19:35 <plh> https://github.com/w3c/media-source/pull/56
15:20:59 <plh> https://github.com/w3c/media-source/pull/38
15:21:07 <paulc> https://github.com/w3c/media-source/pull/38 is related to Streams API
15:21:08 <plh> Matt: this one is the longest poll
15:21:18 <plh> ... do need to follow up with Domenic
15:21:26 <plh> ... I'd like to get this in v1
15:21:51 <plh> ... we'd like mixed content in MSE
15:24:22 <plh> Paul: how long would you like to work on appendStream before I ask the question to the WG?
15:24:37 <plh> Matt: end of March seems reasonable?
15:25:31 <plh> Paul: ok
15:26:25 <plh> [Paul skips triage of new issues]
15:27:13 <plh> Matt: been working on removing and async issues. will triage new issues.
15:27:20 <plh> Jerry: will do a first cut
15:27:44 <plh> ... will do today
15:29:07 <plh> Topic: MSE summary
15:29:42 <plh> Paul: Matt continue to work on Blink test. Yopsuke is continuing the work on testing. Jerry and Matt will continue progress on issues. Jerry will finish the triage today.
15:29:55 <plh> ... will send a group a note as a result of the work
15:30:48 <plh> Topic: EME Research on possible EME tests
15:30:58 <plh> rrsagent, generate minutes
15:30:58 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/03/15-html-media-minutes.html plh
15:31:23 <plh> David: first thing is figuring out what it means to test it
15:31:41 <plh> ... for blink test, they're all using clearKey, with webm support
15:31:50 <plh> ... they can be cleaned up
15:32:11 <plh> ... we can use those but we'll need more tests to demonstrate interop
15:32:13 <plh> q+
15:32:45 <plh> ... could also look into a third party company for testing
15:32:57 <plh> q-
15:33:10 <plh> Paul: will we have the same issue as MSE tests?
15:33:46 <plh> David: yes, but once we solve MSE tests, we'll do the same here
15:33:50 <plh> Chair: Paul
15:33:59 <plh> Jerry: we have some internal tests
15:34:06 <plh> ... they're play ready tests
15:34:27 <plh> ... we use azur servers for both widevine and play ready support
15:34:36 <plh> s/azur/azure/
15:34:48 <plh> ... we might need to formalize some support that is stable
15:35:06 <plh> q+
15:35:16 <yosuke> s/play ready/playready/
15:35:40 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/03/15-html-media-minutes.html yosuke
15:35:41 <plh> Paul: we only need the tests for the CR phase
15:37:31 <yosuke> s/yopsuke/yosuke/
15:38:16 <plh> plh: we can help with conversion and having the tests on web-platform-tests would be nice.
15:38:40 <plh> Paul: also some entities are interested in using tests for clearKey
15:39:27 <plh> Topic: Status of 6 "needs implementation" issues
15:39:39 <plh> Paul: we're now at 6...
15:39:43 <plh> s/6/8/
15:40:10 <paulc> EME "needs implementation" issues: https://github.com/w3c/encrypted-media/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22needs+implementation%22
15:40:56 <plh> [ongoing]
15:41:40 <ddorwin> https://github.com/w3c/encrypted-media/pull/143
15:42:00 <paulc> Joe's pull request: https://github.com/w3c/encrypted-media/pull/143
15:42:32 <plh> Topic: MSE Status of outstanding pull requests
15:43:00 <paulc> plh's registry pull request: https://github.com/w3c/encrypted-media/pull/147
15:43:25 <ddorwin> lost connection
15:43:32 <paulc> plh: Registry items can be published a WG Notes (manually first time) and then we will be able to publish automatically.
15:44:04 <ddorwin> back
15:44:35 <paulc> plh:  Other WGs are waiting for the ability to update WG Notes "on demand"
15:45:31 <plh> David: Jerry has some concerns but will do the reorg
15:46:00 <plh> ... tracked in #105
15:47:39 <plh> Topic: Proposal for V1 and V.Next EME issues
15:47:56 <plh> David: all issues are now tagged
15:48:35 <plh> Paul: we have 5 V1NonBlocking
15:48:38 <plh> ... 18 V1
15:48:47 <plh> ... and 5 v.next
15:49:22 <plh> David: 132 is about key rotation
15:49:53 <plh> s/David/Jerry/
15:50:07 <plh> ... https://github.com/w3c/encrypted-media/issues/149
15:52:29 <plh> David: the problem and the use cases haven't been fully defined and we don't have an interop path
15:53:03 <plh> q+
15:53:41 <plh> Paul: seems like you need more information
15:57:32 <plh> q-
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15:59:31 <plh> Paul: please inform the group on how the MSE and EME issues have been triaged
16:03:34 <plh> rrsagent, generate minutes
16:03:34 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/03/15-html-media-minutes.html plh
16:03:46 <paulc> rrsagent, generate the minutes
16:03:46 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/03/15-html-media-minutes.html paulc