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17:04:38 <kaz> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-web-and-tv/2016Mar/0006.html
17:05:24 <kaz> glenn: discussion on identity
17:05:39 <kaz> present: Kaz, Bill, Glenn, Julian, Leslie
17:05:58 <kaz> s/https/-> https/
17:06:23 <kaz> ... future web standards for entertainment industry
17:06:34 <kaz> ... content identifier we discussed last year
17:06:55 <kaz> ... we had discovered three ways
17:07:05 <kaz> ... extract from meta data
17:07:25 <kaz> ... to attract with fingerprinting watermark
17:07:35 <kaz> s/extract/1. extract/
17:07:45 <kaz> s/to attract/2. attract/
17:08:08 <kaz> ... id work
17:08:15 <kaz> ... api for content identifier
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17:08:42 <kaz> ... any other points?
17:09:03 <kaz> julian: sounds good
17:09:25 <kaz> glenn: very future one or near future one
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17:09:32 <kaz> ... what we're doing is very important
17:09:42 <Julian_Sitkevich> present+
17:10:12 <kaz> kaz: we might want to mention the structure of use case wiki
17:10:28 <kaz> ... including the recent work on identifier management discussion
17:10:43 <kaz> bill: deadline?
17:10:55 <kaz> glenn: Mark didn't mention that
17:11:13 <kaz> bill: what we're doing is entertainment in general
17:11:22 <kaz> ... maybe we can point our use case wikis
17:12:03 <kaz> glenn: anybody can do discussion on the reflector
17:12:11 <kaz> bill: sounds like a good idea
17:12:39 <kaz> glenn: take an action
17:13:47 <kaz> action: glenn to send out an initial idea to the GGIE reflector on future web standard
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17:14:09 <glennd_> glennd is glenn
17:15:31 <Bill_Rose> +present Bill_Rose
17:16:12 <Julian_Sitkevich> present+ Julian_Sitkevich
17:16:37 <kaz> topic: ID use case document
17:16:58 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/tv-ggie/blob/master/GGIE.Identity.UC.Requirements.md ID UC doc on GitHub
17:17:21 <kaz> glennd: third point is privacy
17:17:44 <kaz> ... any other items?
17:17:46 <kaz> (none)
17:18:12 <kaz> glennd: number of action items
17:18:50 <kaz> ... would go through the github doc
17:19:25 <kaz> ... the first topic is "Privacy Requirements"
17:20:13 <kaz> action: glennd to update the numbering of the github doc
17:20:14 <trackbot> Created ACTION-216 - Update the numbering of the github doc [on Glenn Deen - due 2016-03-16].
17:20:24 <kaz> ... many requirements
17:20:50 <kaz> julian: unique ID code to identify students?
17:21:26 <kaz> bill: could be unique within organization, etc.
17:21:41 <kaz> ... but might want to have a third party to manage a global ID
17:22:14 <kaz> ... separation from your real identity
17:22:54 <kaz> julian: so the name of the student and the token are both publicly available?
17:23:09 <kaz> bill: the exchange might be encrypted
17:23:34 <kaz> glennd: functional aspect of identity
17:23:59 <kaz> ... not how to authenticate
17:24:23 <kaz> bill: the idea is e.g., online shopping
17:24:34 <kaz> ... it's a MAY
17:25:00 <kaz> glennd: may take preanble?
17:25:09 <kaz> bill: preanble of the requirement document?
17:25:12 <kaz> ... will do
17:25:24 <kaz> ... where they came from
17:25:35 <kaz> ... number of requirements documents
17:26:22 <kaz> leslie: having a link would be helpful
17:26:32 <kaz> ... a bit concerned with the ordering
17:26:49 <kaz> glennd: suggesting to use linking?
17:27:16 <kaz> ... let's do use cases by name
17:27:33 <kaz> q+
17:28:46 <kaz> ack k
17:28:55 <kaz> kaz: mentions the work of the TV Control API CG
17:29:38 <kaz> @@@link
17:29:55 <kaz> glennd: we've identified preamble
17:31:17 <kaz> ... updated the github doc
17:31:50 <kaz> ... Ease of Use Requirements
17:32:12 <kaz> bill: more a guideline
17:32:53 <kaz> glennd: number 1: The methods necessary to achieve anonymity and pseudonymity must be simple to understand and use such as, for example, the methods used for parental control of online access for children today.
17:33:05 <kaz> ... very general
17:33:21 <kaz> ... next: Issuer Requirements
17:33:31 <kaz> ... user driven
17:33:55 <kaz> ... propagation ok
17:34:34 <kaz> ...Import/Export Requirements
17:34:47 <kaz> ... Processor/Workflow Requirements
17:35:06 <kaz> bill: we had an action item
17:35:17 <kaz> glennd: action item for us
17:35:44 <kaz> action: bill and glennd to fresh out the Processor/Workflow requirements section
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17:36:03 <kaz> s/fresh/flesh/
17:37:08 <kaz> glennd: any issues on Device Requirements or Business Requirements?
17:37:15 <kaz> bill: security requirements
17:37:25 <kaz> glennd: good catch
17:37:58 <kaz> ... updated the github doc
17:38:24 <kaz> ... plan to send this note out to the GG list to request review of the larger group
17:38:41 <kaz> ... any comments?
17:38:43 <kaz> (none)
17:38:46 <kaz> topic: Privacy
17:38:59 <kaz> glennd: general privacy document
17:39:10 <kaz> ... use case we did last year concerning EPG, etc.
17:39:22 <kaz> ... number of sections we had identified
17:39:28 <kaz> ... starting point suggestions
17:39:41 <kaz> ... go back through the use cases and identify gaps
17:39:55 <kaz> ... capture them at one place
17:40:03 <kaz> julian: sounds like reasonable
17:40:10 <kaz> (everybody is OK)
17:40:46 <kaz> glennd: julian and bill, would like to do?
17:40:56 <kaz> julian: happy to help
17:41:01 <kaz> bill: signs up
17:41:43 <kaz> glennd: the first pass is where the use cases came from
17:41:54 <kaz> ... natural aggregation
17:42:14 <kaz> bill: also would see privacy requirements
17:42:35 <kaz> glennd: discovery stuff as well potentially
17:42:42 <kaz> bill: being informative
17:42:53 <kaz> glennd: any other comments?
17:42:56 <kaz> (none)
17:43:21 <kaz> glennd: the other stage we might want to spend time is content identification requirements
17:43:47 <kaz> ... previously discussed what APIs for content identification
17:44:04 <kaz> ... would do a document
17:44:44 <kaz> ... potentially related to some other work within W3C
17:45:05 <kaz> [ adjourned ]
17:45:34 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
17:45:38 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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17:46:58 <kaz> s|@@@link|-> https://www.w3.org/2016/03/08-tvapi-minutes.html TV Control API CG minutes (including several resources on security)|
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17:52:25 <kaz> Meeting: GGIE
17:52:28 <kaz> Chair: Glenn
17:52:33 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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17:53:15 <kaz> present: Kaz_Ashimura, Bill_Rose, Glenn_Deen, Julian_Sitkevich, Leslie_Daigle
17:53:17 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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17:54:37 <kaz> i|0006.html|topic: Mark Watson's message on Entertainment industry requirements for future Web Standards
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18:03:28 <kaz> s/ID use case document/GGIE Identity Use Case Requirements document/
18:03:30 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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18:04:05 <kaz> s/... many requirements/glennd: many requirements/
18:04:11 <kaz> s/glenn:/glennd:/g
18:04:13 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
18:04:13 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/03/09-webtv-minutes.html kaz
18:05:21 <kaz> s/third point is privacy/second point is requirements document, third point is privacy/
18:05:23 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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18:05:44 <kaz> rrsagent, bye
18:05:44 <RRSAgent> I see 3 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2016/03/09-webtv-actions.rdf :
18:05:44 <RRSAgent> ACTION: glenn to send out an initial idea to the GGIE reflector on future web standard [1]
18:05:44 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/03/09-webtv-irc#T17-13-47
18:05:44 <RRSAgent> ACTION: glennd to update the numbering of the github doc [2]
18:05:44 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/03/09-webtv-irc#T17-20-13
18:05:44 <RRSAgent> ACTION: bill and glennd to fresh out the Processor/Workflow requirements section [3]
18:05:44 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/03/09-webtv-irc#T17-35-44