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16:49:46 <trackbot> Meeting: Accessible Platform Architectures Working Group Teleconference
16:49:46 <trackbot> Date: 09 March 2016
16:49:47 <janina> agenda?
16:49:51 <janina> agenda+ preview agenda with items from two minutes
16:49:51 <janina> agenda+ Actions Review (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/products/8
16:49:51 <janina> agenda+ new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html
16:49:51 <janina> agenda+ Community Groups Quarterly Review -- John
16:49:54 <janina> agenda+ Web Payments Time WBS -- Shane, Janina
16:49:56 <janina> agenda+ CSS Next Steps [See Below]
16:49:59 <janina> agenda+ Other Business
16:50:01 <janina> agenda+ next and future meetings http://www.w3.org/Guide/1998/08/teleconference-calendar#s_273
16:50:04 <janina> agenda+ be done
16:50:44 <janina>  present+ Janina
16:50:49 <janina> Chair: Janina
16:50:54 <janina> zakim, next item
16:50:54 <Zakim> agendum 1. "preview agenda with items from two minutes" taken up [from janina]
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16:58:55 <JF> zakim, who's here?
16:58:55 <Zakim> Present: Janina
16:58:57 <Zakim> On IRC I see JF, Zakim, RRSAgent, chaals, ShaneM, MichaelC, joanie, slightlyoff, janina, MichielBijl, trackbot
16:59:04 <JF> Present+ JF
17:00:35 <JF> agenda?
17:01:52 <joanie> present+ Joanmarie_Diggs
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17:07:14 <fesch> zakim next item
17:07:56 <fesch> invite zakim #apa
17:08:00 <JF> zakim, next item
17:08:00 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Actions Review (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/products/8" taken up [from janina]
17:08:05 <ShaneM> present+ ShaneM
17:08:22 <fesch> zakim, item 1
17:08:22 <Zakim> I don't understand 'item 1', fesch
17:08:43 <fesch> zakim take up item 1
17:09:11 <fesch> Topic: news, annoucements
17:09:18 <MichaelC> agenda+ TR styles
17:09:29 <MichaelC> present+ MichaelC
17:09:40 <fesch> rs: Web IDE on IBM Bluemix supports ARIA with popup hints
17:10:00 <fesch> rs: Joanie made a big Webkit drop which includes SVG accessiblity
17:10:16 <fesch> rs: Googledocs export to dpub
17:10:32 <fesch> ts: need to ask to include ARIA
17:10:41 <fesch> ts: not part of epub spec yet
17:11:20 <fesch> cs: John from MicroSoft and Joanie coordinating on testing
17:11:39 <fesch> cs: MicroSoft suite at CSUN...
17:12:10 <tzviya> s/dpub/epub 3.0.1
17:12:10 <fesch> folks describing CSUN plans
17:14:11 <ShaneM> wow that's super cool
17:14:13 <fesch> ts: Grant for accessible forms of publishing, testing accessibly of publications
17:15:12 <fesch> js: Sunday NA goes on daylight time - time will be out of sync with Europe for 1 hour for a couple of weeks (1 hour earlier in Europe)
17:17:15 <fesch> Topic: action item review
17:17:52 <fesch> mc: JF to look at community groups?
17:18:00 <fesch> jf: ready to go
17:18:01 <MichaelC> close action-2015
17:18:01 <trackbot> Closed action-2015.
17:18:20 <fesch> action-1597
17:18:20 <trackbot> action-1597 -- Janina Sajka to Review web midi api http://www.w3.org/tr/webmidi/ -- due 2015-12-16 -- OPEN
17:18:20 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/1597
17:18:23 <JF> zakim, take up item 2
17:18:23 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Actions Review (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/products/8" taken up [from janina]
17:18:28 <MichaelC> close action-1597
17:18:28 <trackbot> Closed action-1597.
17:18:37 <MichielBijl> present+ MichielBijl
17:18:51 <MichaelC> action-2012?
17:18:51 <trackbot> action-2012 -- Janina Sajka to Review csp 3 https://www.w3.org/tr/csp3/ -- due 2016-02-24 -- OPEN
17:18:51 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2012
17:18:52 <JF> Q+
17:19:15 <fesch> js: on the edge of my knowledge
17:19:49 <fesch> cs: the spec has potential impact...
17:19:53 <janina> https://www.w3.org/TR/CSP3/
17:20:09 <fesch> js: please look at the  abstract
17:20:51 <MichaelC> rrsagent, make minutes
17:20:51 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/03/09-apa-minutes.html MichaelC
17:21:02 <fesch> js: anyone have an opinion?
17:21:11 <MichaelC> rrsagent, make log world
17:21:13 <fesch> sm: will have to look through it
17:21:14 <MichaelC> rrsagent, make minutes
17:21:14 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/03/09-apa-minutes.html MichaelC
17:22:16 <fesch> fe: usually just worried about cross domain stuff
17:23:20 <fesch> js: will review
17:23:51 <fesch> s/js/sm/
17:24:21 <fesch> sm: can affect lots of stuff...
17:25:37 <fesch> cs: convened about ...
17:25:57 <fesch> fe: this is already exists, used now
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17:27:41 <fesch> js: web RTC  is OK
17:28:29 <MichaelC> close action-2013
17:28:29 <trackbot> Closed action-2013.
17:28:55 <JF> https://www.w3.org/TR/encrypted-media/
17:28:57 <fesch> jf: next week I have an action for the encryption module
17:30:03 <MichaelC> action-2006?
17:30:03 <trackbot> action-2006 -- John Foliot to Draft comment to ensure authoring guidance is provide on eme https://www.w3.org/tr/encrypted-media/ -- due 2016-03-16 -- OPEN
17:30:03 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2006
17:30:21 <fesch> jf: have a section on security and privacy, none on accessibility, need authoring guidance... raises the question - we need have a standardized response for
17:30:37 <fesch> jf: having a section on accessibility
17:31:24 <fesch> js: do we need to be thinking of - request that specs have an accessibility impact statement, like security...
17:31:32 <ShaneM> q+ to mention that I assume relevant MAUR data will be fed in by JF to EME?
17:31:37 <fesch> js: would want to discuss on another day...
17:31:59 <fesch> js: if we think it is a good idea can take it up with WAI coordination
17:32:11 <JF> ack JF
17:32:13 <janina> q?
17:32:18 <fesch> action-2000
17:32:18 <trackbot> Sorry, but action-2000 does not exist.
17:32:28 <fesch> action-2003
17:32:29 <trackbot> action-2003 -- Joanmarie Diggs to Review presentation api https://www.w3.org/tr/presentation-api/ -- due 2016-02-24 -- OPEN
17:32:29 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2003
17:32:55 <MichaelC> close action-2003
17:32:55 <trackbot> Closed action-2003.
17:33:05 <fesch> action-2016
17:33:05 <trackbot> action-2016 -- Michiel Bijl to Review clipboard api and events http://www.w3.org/tr/clipboard-apis/ -- due 2016-03-09 -- OPEN
17:33:05 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2016
17:33:13 <ShaneM> ack ShaneM
17:33:13 <Zakim> ShaneM, you wanted to mention that I assume relevant MAUR data will be fed in by JF to EME?
17:33:15 <janina> ack sh
17:34:27 <fesch> jf: absolutely, particularly if it is going to be encrypted, it should be encrypt the whole thing (including closed captions)
17:36:29 <fesch> mb: clipboard appears OK , I filed issues on this spec because of accessibility
17:37:50 <fesch> mb: focus management isn't discussed
17:38:08 <fesch> mc: don't know if it is a concern in this case
17:38:42 <fesch> mc: updating wiki - noting focus impact when API is used
17:38:59 <fesch> js: did you file this with them?
17:39:15 <fesch> mb: no, but I will after this meeting
17:39:56 <MichaelC> action-1549?
17:39:56 <trackbot> action-1549 -- Cynthia Shelly to Review http://www.w3.org/tr/css-align-3/ and http://www.w3.org/tr/css-inline-3/ due 20150222 -- due 2016-03-04 -- OPEN
17:39:56 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/1549
17:39:57 <fesch> cs: reviewed CSS align
17:40:08 <fesch> cs: I didn't find any issues
17:40:37 <MichaelC> close action-1549
17:40:37 <trackbot> Closed action-1549.
17:40:47 <fesch> zakim, next item
17:40:47 <Zakim> agendum 3. "new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html" taken up [from janina]
17:41:23 <fesch> mc: 9 specs, 4 I doubt we re interested in
17:41:38 <MichaelC> -> https://www.w3.org/TR/activitypub/ ActivityPub
17:42:20 <fesch> fe: will review
17:42:30 <MichaelC> action: Fred to review ActivityPub https://www.w3.org/TR/activitypub/
17:42:30 <trackbot> Created ACTION-2017 - Review activitypub https://www.w3.org/tr/activitypub/ [on Fred Esch - due 2016-03-16].
17:43:04 <MichaelC> -> https://www.w3.org/TR/requestidlecallback/ Cooperative Scheduling of Background Tasks
17:43:48 <fesch> mc: This document defines an API that web page authors can use to cooperatively schedule background tasks such that they do not introduce delays to other high priority tasks that share the same event loop, such as input processing, animations and frame compositing.
17:44:08 <fesch> mc: are there anything that could impact script based AT?
17:44:50 <fesch> jf: volunteering Dylan
17:44:53 <MichaelC> action: Foliot to get Deque review of Cooperative Scheduling of Background Tasks https://www.w3.org/TR/requestidlecallback/ - due 4 weeks
17:44:53 <trackbot> Created ACTION-2018 - Get deque review of cooperative scheduling of background tasks https://www.w3.org/tr/requestidlecallback/ [on John Foliot - due 2016-04-06].
17:45:17 <MichaelC> -> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/CSS_Fragmentation_Module_Level_3 CSS Fragmentation Module Level 3
17:46:06 <fesch> fe: that one is definitely of interest
17:46:25 <fesch> mc: we may have looked at in the past
17:46:39 <MichaelC> action: Fred to review CSS Fragmentation Module Level 3 https://www.w3.org/TR/css-break-3/
17:46:39 <trackbot> Created ACTION-2019 - Review css fragmentation module level 3 https://www.w3.org/tr/css-break-3/ [on Fred Esch - due 2016-03-16].
17:47:06 <MichaelC> -> https://www.w3.org/TR/custom-elements/ Custom Elements
17:47:37 <fesch> js: we have looked at this
17:47:45 <fesch> mc: this is big and scary
17:47:58 <fesch> sm: what is the issue?
17:48:14 <fesch> mc: that it defines elements without defined semantics
17:48:33 <fesch> mc: don't think this is new,
17:48:42 <fesch> js: lets ask Leonie
17:49:17 <fesch> sm: how do you define aria roles state and properites?
17:49:35 <fesch> sm: covered in section 10,. but is it covered well?
17:50:01 <fesch> sm: it was we were doing in HTML 2
17:50:11 <ShaneM> s/HTML 2/XHTML2/
17:50:23 <MichaelC> -> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/WebDriver WebDriver
17:50:45 <fesch> mc: webdriver spec... is it an ARIA coordination spec
17:50:56 <fesch> mc: would be great to do ARIA testing
17:51:16 <fesch> mc: wondering if AT could use webdriver for controling....
17:51:42 <fesch> cs: can ask John Jansen
17:51:50 <tzviya> q+ to go back to CSS fragments
17:51:55 <fesch> rs: worried about performance issues
17:52:17 <fesch> rs: I don't want them to slow us down
17:52:32 <fesch> js: are we concerned with what they are doing?
17:52:52 <fesch> cs: we asked for features to do testing, which are appearing...
17:53:11 <fesch> js: maybe we should follow up on the features
17:53:15 <JF> agenda?
17:54:35 <fesch> rs: discussing ARIA test meetings....
17:54:48 <tzviya> q-
17:55:32 <fesch> tz: I work with fragments - Fred talk with me
17:55:57 <fesch> js: not getting to CSS next steps...
17:56:10 <fesch> zakim, next item
17:56:10 <Zakim> agendum 4. "Community Groups Quarterly Review -- John" taken up [from janina]
17:56:38 <JF> Universal Images  [https://www.w3.org/community/universalimages/] - 11 emails (since December)
17:56:49 <fesch> jf: 15 new groups, maybe 5-6 that are interesting, 1 to keep an eye on - universal images
17:57:18 <fesch> jf: may use metadata for getting text in there
17:57:22 <JF>  Natural Language Interfaces for the Web of Data  [https://www.w3.org/community/nli/] - 2 emails (COGA?)
17:57:39 <fesch> jf: might be of interest to COGA
17:58:09 <fesch> jf: some groups with few emails...
17:58:10 <JF> Respectful Terms of Service [https://www.w3.org/community/rtos/] - 14 emails (10 in December)
17:58:44 <fesch> jf: the above three may be worth watching
17:59:17 <fesch> jf: we should keep an eye on universal images
17:59:42 <fesch> jf: others not much activity
18:00:05 <janina> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/83907/2016-03-payments/
18:00:21 <fesch> js: web payments need a separate time for web payments
18:00:33 <fesch> js:: open until next week...
18:00:47 <fesch> js: Shane is in the thick of it...
18:00:59 <fesch> rrsagent, make minutes
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