20:03:47 RRSAgent has joined #sdwssn 20:03:47 logging to http://www.w3.org/2016/03/08-sdwssn-irc 20:04:13 Zakim has joined #sdwssn 20:04:25 trackbot, start meeting 20:04:25 Sorry, but no Tracker is associated with this channel. 20:05:28 rrsagent, make logs public 20:05:48 regrets: Oscar, Scott 20:05:56 present+ Kerry 20:06:27 present +RaulGarciaCastro 20:06:45 trackbot, this will be sdw 20:06:45 Sorry, kerry, I don't understand 'trackbot, this will be sdw'. Please refer to for help. 20:07:41 present+ DanhLePhuoc 20:07:43 rrsagent, draft minutes 20:07:43 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/03/08-sdwssn-minutes.html kerry 20:10:22 chair: kerry 20:10:29 scribe: DanhLePhuoc 20:10:49 scribeNick: RaulGarciaCastro 20:10:58 scribe: RaulGarciaCastro 20:11:15 Topic: Patent call 20:11:20 https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Patent_Call 20:13:11 Topic: Welcome to SSN-subgroup meetings 20:13:43 kerry: Not many people around 20:14:20 Topic: FPWD 20:14:35 kerry: We need to publish the FPWD soon 20:15:00 kerry: … end of March, 1st week April 20:15:05 q? 20:16:26 kerry: … that is our first big goal 20:16:39 kerry: … we could publish SSN as it is now 20:17:03 kerry: … being ambitious, also modularization would be good 20:18:13 kerry: … it is important that the W3C staff sees some progress 20:19:46 RaulGarciaCastro: It would be nice to also include in the FPWD what we plan to deliver by the end of our work 20:19:50 +1 20:19:59 +1 20:20:04 +1 20:21:10 kerry: We can talk about this next meeting (with more peopel) 20:21:21 s/peopel/people 20:21:39 kerry: … with the other editors 20:23:41 Topic: Webprotege 20:24:06 http://webprotege.stanford.edu/#Edit:projectId=dc983c6a-c144-4d5a-a2a2-1f8d25d1ad54 20:25:12 kerry: People should have rights to edit the ontology 20:25:40 DanhLePhuoc: Not everyone needs to have editing permissions to comment 20:26:48 RaulGarciaCastro: If we modularise the ontology at the end we will have different projects 20:27:19 kerry: Yes, I think it was that way 20:28:03 DanhLePhuoc: Right now there are two projects, not sure how to link them 20:30:02 kerry: Where are the axioms in Webprotege? 20:33:44 http://protegewiki.stanford.edu/wiki/WebProtegeUsersGuide 20:34:33 ahaller2 has joined #sdwssn 20:34:57 DanhLePhuoc: In the OWLEntityDescriptionBrowser tab 20:35:06 http://protegewiki.stanford.edu/wiki/WebProtegeUsersGuide#The_OWL_Entity_Description_Editor 20:35:19 DanhLePhuoc: … and Editor 20:35:24 please look at user guid and have a go 20:36:40 apologies for being late, what is the webex link? 20:36:53 Armin, can pls give raul permission to edit on webprotege! 20:37:16 https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Meetings:SSN-Telecon20160308 20:37:21 https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=m7fa998124d164729c095b8c83a45f52d 20:37:21 yes, what is his username? 20:37:24 armin, the webex link on that page works 20:37:35 sdwssn 20:37:53 rgcmme 20:38:01 that’s my user name in Webprotege 20:39:25 Topic: Editor’s draft 20:39:31 http://w3c.github.io/sdw/ssn/ 20:40:12 present+ ahaller2 20:40:53 kerry: ahaller2 already has editing permissions in github 20:41:36 present+ ahaller2 20:43:29 Topic: Modularization 20:44:13 ack arhaller2 20:44:19 ahaller2: We have agreed to remove dolce 20:44:21 ack ahaller2 20:44:29 ahaller2: … do we need further modules? 20:44:56 agree -- no precedent for this 20:44:56 ahaller2: … will splitting the ontology make it more usable? 20:45:12 also agree -- it is no that much 20:45:29 q+ kerry 20:46:20 kerry: multiple namespaces is annoying and you have to constantly look for things you need in other places 20:46:41 q+ 20:46:59 ack kerry 20:47:00 q+ 20:47:03 ack RaulGarciaCastro 20:47:58 q+ 20:48:04 q+ 20:48:04 ack ahaller2 20:48:08 RaulGarciaCastro: we could analyse the use cases and see what extent of the ontology is expected to be used 20:48:43 ack ahaller2 20:48:49 ahaller2: All modules, even if they have different namespaces, could be in the same file 20:48:50 ack ahaller 20:49:03 ack DanhLePhuoc 20:49:58 ack kerry 20:49:59 DanhLePhuoc: it’s not necessary to split everything but we can have different profiles 20:51:00 kerry: some use cases deal with observations, others with platforms… 20:51:47 kerry: … we could do some profiling 20:52:32 kerry: … we can put the current modules in the W3C namespace 20:53:35 RaulGarciaCastro: Once we define some URIs, people will start using them 20:54:00 ahaller2: I’m concerned of publishing something not finished 20:54:06 +1 20:54:11 +1 20:55:08 q+ 20:55:25 ack RaulGarciaCastro 20:56:22 RaulGarciaCastro: Putting the modules proposal in the FPWD would make no harm 20:56:34 RaulGarciaCastro: … and if everyone agrees we publish it 20:56:53 RaulGarciaCastro: … and if there are concerns we wait 20:57:11 kerry: not just the modules, the complete modules 20:57:31 kerry: the ontologies themselves 20:59:01 q+ 20:59:32 ack ahaller 21:00:19 DanhLePhuoc: Like in software, people could use profiles and look for the origin of the different ontology components 21:00:27 I’m not sure I got well this last part 21:03:17 kerry: People could simply use the vocabulary terms of the ontology, but it would be nice if reasoning can also be used 21:04:37 kerry: dereferencing the ontology terms should lead to the ontology 21:05:14 kerry: … we can test this with the current splitted version of the ontology 21:05:31 kerry: … and implementing content negotiation 21:05:40 q? 21:05:58 ahaller2: It would be nice to have it to play 21:06:25 ahaller2: … multiple modules will also lead people to use incorrect namespaces 21:07:00 kerry: We can do that and then discuss up to what extent modularize 21:08:02 action: ahaller2 to get the 2 ontology modules on w3c namespace with phila, to experimentation 21:08:02 Sorry, but no Tracker is associated with this channel. 21:09:13 kerry: if anyone wants to chair these meetings, just tell 21:09:57 kerry: … will be happy if people gives suggestions on topics for the meeting 21:10:39 Bye 21:10:43 rrsagent. draft minutes 21:10:50 rrsagent, draft minutes 21:10:50 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/03/08-sdwssn-minutes.html kerry 21:11:05 rrrsagent, make logs world 21:11:32 bye! 21:11:40 kerry has left #sdwssn 23:39:23 Zakim has left #sdwssn