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14:44:35 <ivan> Meeting: DPUB IG Locator Task Force Call
14:44:46 <ivan> Chair: Ben De Meester
14:44:47 <ivan> Regrets: Tzviya
14:45:11 <ivan> Agenda: http://www.w3.org/mid/CAJ-O9TvxOh3bRDYSrfCnmOovMixqDeJU14D=aVZOEUYLwHuvHQ@mail.gmail.com
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14:59:18 <ivan> Present+ Ivan
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15:01:35 <Bill_Kasdorf> I didn't realize I needed to be on Webex. I join via call-in and IRC. I'll do that now.
15:02:39 <Bill_Kasdorf> It keeps telling me I have the wrong password. This is why I skip the WebEx.
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15:04:44 <laudrain> Present+ Luc
15:04:45 <Bill_Kasdorf> only took five tries to get it to work. . . .
15:04:58 <bjdmeest> scribenick laudrain
15:05:05 <bjdmeest> Present+ Ben_De_Meester
15:05:05 <ivan> scribenick: laudrain
15:05:27 <ivan> Present+ Markus, Matt, Leonard
15:05:51 <ivan> Regrets+ Romain
15:06:07 <laudrain> Ben uopdates on use cases?
15:06:25 <ivan> s/uopdates/updates/
15:06:25 <bjdmeest> https://github.com/w3c/dpub-pwp-loc/commit/87a6e229c948806ed0e0f973e9ee0aba090249e3
15:06:39 <laudrain> document on github repo
15:07:31 <laudrain> canonical URL independant of the PWP state
15:08:03 <laudrain> LR : protocol?
15:08:41 <laudrain> LR document line 11
15:09:33 <laudrain> LR : protocol is irrelevant in relative URL
15:10:40 <laudrain> Ivan add the comment he made
15:11:15 <laudrain> definition of locator : ok
15:12:12 <laudrain> Ivan : a PWP is also always in a certain state
15:12:38 <laudrain> LR : what does the locator returns?
15:12:45 <laudrain> Ivan : content-type
15:13:26 <laudrain> LR : state isn’t a rest request
15:14:07 <laudrain> LR : what is return is independant of state
15:14:50 <laudrain> BEn : change may by is
15:15:26 <laudrain> LR resource or relative locator?
15:16:04 <laudrain> Ivan : resource could be added in ()
15:16:43 <laudrain> LR : a PWP contains a second PWP , what is the locator
15:17:16 <laudrain> Ivan : leave as is for now
15:17:52 <laudrain> Ovan : put a note on precse terminology points to ressource
15:18:45 <laudrain> Ivan : a canonical locator is an absolute and state independant locator
15:20:16 <laudrain> LR : a canonical locator is to a PWP and to its resources
15:21:43 <laudrain> Ben: Reading system
15:22:11 <laudrain> LR: what does the RS do with locators?
15:22:19 <laudrain> BEn text as its?
15:22:29 <laudrain> Consensus
15:22:59 <laudrain> Ben : PWP assumed to be published unacked
15:23:28 <laudrain> Ivan: why?  locator independnat from the state
15:23:59 <laudrain> LR: « unpacked folder strucure »
15:24:43 <laudrain> When managing glocator, conceptually PWP is looked as if  it was uunpacked
15:25:15 <laudrain> Ben ; PWP doesn’t physically need to be unpacked
15:25:33 <laudrain> Bill : necessarily online?
15:26:49 <laudrain> Ivan: packed or unpacked, the locator looks at the resource conceptually
15:28:01 <bjdmeest> q?
15:28:06 <laudrain> LR: canonical locator : who is the distributor of the content?
15:28:32 <laudrain> Ivan: this is addressed later in the docment
15:29:37 <laudrain> Ivan: the canonical loc change when the PWP is copied
15:31:36 <laudrain> Ivan : book on the local file, the original loc is a question of implementation choice
15:32:50 <laudrain> LR: section 47-50 shuold be placed somewhere else
15:33:40 <laudrain> Ben questions
15:34:24 <laudrain> Ben Q1
15:34:56 <laudrain> Ivan : example fetching in the file isn’t a good example
15:35:51 <laudrain> Ivan: moving from the canonical to the actual locator is a question
15:36:44 <laudrain> LR: the URL has to go through the metadata to the internal resource
15:38:02 <laudrain> Ivan: mapping has to hapenn from th Can Url to the particuar state on my disk
15:38:09 <laudrain> LR: Where?
15:39:09 <laudrain> iIvan: ideally, typing in my browser the Can Url, it goes the the server and get the resource
15:39:53 <laudrain> LR case where the server has to map the packed to the unpacked resource
15:40:16 <laudrain> LR: how does one find the resources?
15:41:06 <laudrain> Ivan: we don’t have the problem of external resources, but is more upsream
15:42:49 <laudrain> LR:: the RS reads the publication. Do we need to define a PWP processor?
15:43:30 <laudrain> LR: a RS is not in the server
15:43:58 <laudrain> ivan: dispalying and other processes are in the same black box
15:44:48 <laudrain> Ben : adding an extra definiiton for pwp processor
15:45:03 <laudrain> Ben : the user interacts with the RS
15:46:13 <laudrain> Ben: PWP paked and unacked on the server, the can loc has to get one of the 2 resources
15:46:24 <laudrain> Ben Q4
15:48:13 <laudrain> Ivan: question Q4bis : locator to a specific state?
15:48:48 <laudrain> LR: it is the responsibilty of teh PWP proc
15:48:55 <laudrain> Ivan : right
15:49:31 <laudrain> LR: the PWP proc knows how to map to the data
15:49:41 <laudrain> Ivan: this is content negociation
15:50:46 <laudrain> Ivan: from a zip and a folder, what does the PWP Proc do?
15:51:45 <laudrain> LR: for a single resource, the URL returns the resource data, we have no choice
15:52:12 <laudrain> Ivan: any server will throug a non existent error
15:52:36 <laudrain> s/throug/throw/
15:54:22 <laudrain> Ivan: the server decides today even without any extension (html ot xhtml)
15:55:02 <laudrain> Ivan: extra processing on th PWP proc side : to replace the Can Loc to the State URL
15:55:58 <laudrain> LR: « properly configured server » : a specific configuration
15:56:28 <laudrain> LR: apache server all have addons
15:56:57 <laudrain> LR: we never said that we should not have addons
15:57:14 <laudrain> Ivan: we shoud avoid extensions
15:58:37 <laudrain> LR: the server has always  to be configured some way
15:59:07 <laudrain> Ben: put separately this issue?
15:59:58 <laudrain> Ben: processing / content negociaiton. Agreed on those functionalities?
16:00:30 <laudrain> Ben to make document revision
16:00:43 <laudrain> Ivan: setup is a fundamental question
16:02:24 <laudrain> Luc: it reminds of service workers
16:03:03 <laudrain> Ivan: SW may be an issue to not server extensions
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16:55:33 <ivan> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:55:33 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/02/10-dpub-loc-minutes.html ivan