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14:56:45 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 3668
14:56:45 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot
14:56:46 <trackbot> Meeting: WebFonts Working Group Teleconference
14:56:46 <trackbot> Date: 20 January 2016
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15:02:49 <Vlad> Guys, I am hoping for the best but W3C hhas changed their WebEx setup due to some issues with unauthorized usage and it now requires the presense of a host to start a call
15:03:17 <RSheeter> David and I are on the phone; seems to be working (?)
15:04:25 <RSheeter> scribenick: rsheeter
15:04:35 <Vlad> Regrets: Ken Lunde, Jonathan Kew
15:04:40 <Vlad> present+
15:04:59 <RSheeter> present+
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15:06:36 <RSheeter> present+ khaled
15:06:52 <RSheeter> Vlad: font media type is ongoing @ IETF
15:07:06 <RSheeter> Topic: Action Items
15:07:19 <RSheeter> action-116?
15:07:19 <trackbot> action-116 -- David Kuettel to Decoder performance analysis on mobile devices -- due 2015-10-31 -- OPEN
15:07:19 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/116
15:08:50 <RSheeter> (not done but still relevant; push date to early April to allow for Chrome 49 + some time to examine data)
15:10:09 <RSheeter> action-186?
15:10:09 <trackbot> action-186 -- Roderick Sheeter to Try time (decode) and size for null glyf/loca xform vs regular vs woff1 -- due 2015-10-14 -- OPEN
15:10:09 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/186
15:11:59 <RSheeter> Rod: Wasn't happy with test with minor woff2 changes; lots of unnecessary copying and such. Need to make more changes, bump date out.
15:12:12 <RSheeter> action-191?
15:12:12 <trackbot> action-191 -- Roderick Sheeter to Come up with pseudo code for the uint base128 description -- due 2015-12-09 -- PENDINGREVIEW
15:12:12 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/191
15:12:33 <RSheeter> action-192?
15:12:33 <trackbot> action-192 -- Vladimir Levantovsky to Insert "4 * floor( (numglyphs + 31) / 32)" -- due 2015-12-09 -- PENDINGREVIEW
15:12:33 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/192
15:12:45 <RSheeter> action-193?
15:12:45 <trackbot> action-193 -- Vladimir Levantovsky to Known tags must use known tag format -- due 2015-12-10 -- PENDINGREVIEW
15:12:45 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/193
15:12:59 <RSheeter> action-194?
15:12:59 <trackbot> action-194 -- Vladimir Levantovsky to Investigate the handling of empty glyph records and how it affects the 'hmtx' transform -- due 2015-12-23 -- PENDINGREVIEW
15:12:59 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/194
15:13:56 <RSheeter> Vlad: turned out 'glyf' needed clarification as well
15:14:18 <Vlad> Recent diffs: http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/webfonts/WOFF2/spec/Overview.html.diff?r1=1.74;r2=1.75;f=h
15:14:36 <RSheeter> (was calling for 0-contour glyph rather than a "real" empty glyph)
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15:15:37 <RSheeter> Vlad: Reference impl does empty glyphs already. Spec has been updated to call for empty glyph.
15:15:39 <Vlad> Thanks CHris, we are ok
15:16:16 <ChrisL> rrsagent, make logs public
15:18:48 <RSheeter> (discussion of lsb's for empty glyphs)
15:19:31 <RSheeter> (should we ignore lsb or require 0)
15:19:46 <RSheeter> Chris: Would someone do that on purpose?
15:22:25 <RSheeter> Rod: if the field doesn't do anything nobody would have worried about it before
15:23:34 <RSheeter> Rod: so question is, can lsb for empty ever actually do anything or is it completely meaningless
15:26:09 <RSheeter> Vlad: Couldn't confirm that in asking around; safer to not nuke even for empty. (paraphrased slightly)
15:28:10 <RSheeter> close action-191
15:28:10 <trackbot> Closed action-191.
15:28:17 <RSheeter> close action-192
15:28:17 <trackbot> Closed action-192.
15:28:23 <RSheeter> close action-193
15:28:23 <trackbot> Closed action-193.
15:28:27 <RSheeter> close action-194
15:28:27 <trackbot> Closed action-194.
15:28:33 <RSheeter> Topic: Candidate Recommendation
15:28:47 <RSheeter> Vlad: Chris, how do we get there?
15:29:16 <RSheeter> Chris: we need to be able to show comments, discussion, related changes, etc
15:30:27 <RSheeter> Vlad: All ye against moving to candidate recommendation speak now!
15:30:45 <RSheeter> Vlad: (bear in mind further changes become harder to make)
15:31:16 <RSheeter> Chris: We have to show changes would not invalidate a previous review
15:32:49 <RSheeter> Vlad: only expected change is adding description of recent changes
15:33:09 <RSheeter> Resolved to move to Candidate Recommendation
15:34:02 <RSheeter> (much rejoicing)
15:34:07 <RSheeter> Topic: More Topics
15:34:33 <RSheeter> close action-174
15:34:33 <trackbot> Closed action-174.
15:34:40 <RSheeter> (based on discussion with Chris)
15:35:42 <RSheeter> Chris: Working away on issues, mostly minor, around font media types. Mostly using github issues.
15:36:57 <ChrisL> https://github.com/svgeesus/ietf-justfont
15:38:31 <RSheeter> ChrisL: helpful if this WG can review/comment on the issues
15:39:09 <RSheeter> ChrisL: maybe email list occasionally as well
15:40:14 <RSheeter> zakim, list attendees
15:40:14 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been Vlad, RSheeter, khaled
15:40:23 <RSheeter> present+ kuettel
15:40:27 <RSheeter> present+ chrisl
15:40:31 <RSheeter> zakim, list attendees
15:40:31 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been Vlad, RSheeter, khaled, kuettel, chrisl
15:40:39 <RSheeter> present+ sergeym
15:40:40 <RSheeter> zakim, list attendees
15:40:40 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been Vlad, RSheeter, khaled, kuettel, chrisl, sergeym
15:40:51 <ChrisL> chair: vlad
15:40:52 <RSheeter> rrsagent, make minutes
15:40:52 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/01/20-webfonts-minutes.html RSheeter
15:41:20 <RSheeter> just when I thought I knew the commands!
15:41:41 <ChrisL> :)
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