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16:05:05 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be
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16:05:06 <trackbot> Meeting: Arabic Layout Task Force Teleconference
16:05:06 <trackbot> Date: 19 January 2016
16:05:06 <Shervin> present?
16:05:13 <Shervin> zakim, who is here?
16:05:13 <Zakim> Present: Behnam, mostafa, r12a, Amr, najib
16:05:15 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, Waseem, r12a, najib, Shervin, mostafa, Zakim, trackbot
16:05:16 <Shervin> Behnam-
16:05:27 <r12a> regrets Amr
16:05:33 <Shervin> regrets Behnam
16:06:08 <najib> present+ Najib
16:06:09 <Shervin> zakim, who is here?
16:06:09 <Zakim> Present: Behnam, mostafa, r12a, Amr, najib
16:06:11 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, Waseem, r12a, najib, Shervin, mostafa, Zakim, trackbot
16:07:00 <r12a> present- Amr
16:07:04 <r12a> zakim, who's here?
16:07:04 <Zakim> Present: Behnam, mostafa, r12a, najib
16:07:06 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, Waseem, r12a, najib, Shervin, mostafa, Zakim, trackbot
16:07:13 <Shervin> present- Behnam
16:07:16 <r12a> present- Najib
16:07:18 <Shervin> Zakim, who is here?
16:07:18 <Zakim> Present: mostafa, r12a
16:07:20 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, Waseem, r12a, najib, Shervin, mostafa, Zakim, trackbot
16:07:26 <Shervin> present+ Shervin
16:07:33 <Shervin> present+ Waseem
16:07:55 <najib> zakim, who's here?
16:07:55 <Zakim> Present: mostafa, r12a, Shervin, Waseem
16:07:57 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, Waseem, r12a, najib, Shervin, mostafa, Zakim, trackbot
16:08:11 <najib> present+ najib
16:08:15 <najib> zakim, who's here?
16:08:15 <Zakim> Present: mostafa, r12a, Shervin, Waseem, najib
16:08:18 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, Waseem, r12a, najib, Shervin, mostafa, Zakim, trackbot
16:08:36 <Shervin> https://www.w3.org/International/groups/arabic-layout/track/actions/open
16:09:13 <r12a> agenda+ home page & charter move
16:10:09 <najib> http://www.w3c.org.ma/Tests/Alreq/
16:10:13 <mostafa> q+
16:10:37 <mostafa> q-
16:11:06 <r12a> agenda?
16:11:11 <Shervin> agenda?
16:11:45 <mostafa> Scribenick: mostafa
16:12:02 <mostafa> Topic: Reviewing action items
16:12:08 <Shervin> agenda- 1
16:12:12 <Shervin> agenda- 2
16:12:13 <Shervin> agenda- 3
16:12:15 <Shervin> agenda- 4
16:12:24 <mostafa> Shervin: Let’s start with reiviewing action items. First one, Action-7 is for Najib.
16:12:26 <Shervin> Chair: Shervin
16:12:39 <mostafa> Najib: I prepared the text and tried to send a PR in Github.
16:12:48 <mostafa> I’m sharing a link to my text.
16:13:36 <mostafa> Najib: I’m stuck with a technical problem in the process.
16:15:12 <mostafa> Shervin: So, Action-7 is ongoing.
16:15:28 <mostafa> … Action-16 is for me. I don’t remember the background for it.
16:15:50 <mostafa> Richard: Yeah. I think I did that for you. Let me share a link.
16:15:55 <r12a> http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/editorial-guidelines/
16:16:14 <mostafa> … I think this is what this action was for.
16:16:38 <mostafa> q+
16:17:11 <Shervin> ack mostafa
16:18:01 <mostafa> Shervin: Yeah, we have Action-38 for that which covers git issues and is what your document coverrs.
16:18:30 <mostafa> Mostafa: Action-7 was for the drafting process: tool for drafting, opening Github issues, …
16:18:37 <mostafa> … It organically took shape already.
16:18:48 <mostafa> Shervin: Alright, then we can close both issues now.
16:19:06 <mostafa> … Next one, action-21, is for Waseem.
16:19:52 <mostafa> Waseem: I have found the required resources. They are being gathered.
16:20:16 <mostafa> Shervin: Action-29 is for me. I processed the spreadsheet and produced the needed HTML.
16:20:40 <Shervin> http://w3c.github.io/alreq/#glossary
16:21:05 <mostafa> … Overall, it was okay. But there are some small issues: terms missing, question marks, …
16:21:37 <mostafa> … We are missing some Persian translations.
16:21:56 <mostafa> … There are also some bidi issues with parenthesis.
16:22:02 <r12a> parenthesis problem example EM
16:22:12 <mostafa> … I would like people to take a look and give comments.
16:22:38 <najib> q+
16:22:52 <Shervin> ack najib
16:23:11 <najib> q-
16:23:21 <mostafa> Najib: How are we going to keep the HTML version up-to-date?
16:23:51 <mostafa> Shervin: I’ll export the spreadsheet to CSV and update the HTML code.
16:24:24 <mostafa> Najib: We can even edit HTML at some point.
16:25:02 <mostafa> Shervin: As long as we developing heavily, the current spreadsheet form is a better tool. But at some point, once the glossary is more stable, we can switch the master source to HTML.
16:25:11 <r12a> q+
16:25:46 <Shervin> ack r12a
16:25:58 <mostafa> … We are also missing transliterations in the HTML table.
16:26:29 <mostafa> … We can have them there in the docuemnt, or link them to a external source.
16:26:50 <mostafa> Richard: I prefer them being in the document. That would help with the pronounciation.
16:26:57 <mostafa> +1 to Richard.
16:27:39 <mostafa> q+
16:28:04 <r12a> q+
16:28:08 <Shervin> ack mostafa
16:28:22 <najib> +1 for transliterations in the HTML too
16:29:31 <mostafa> Mostafa: I agree with Richard about having transliterations in the docuemnt.
16:29:57 <mostafa> … It would be nice to be able to link to specific terms in the glossary.
16:30:19 <Shervin> <tr id="def_hangingindentation">
16:30:27 <mostafa> … We are also not limited to the table format. If we end up having more information for the glossary items, we can switch to another format.
16:30:40 <mostafa> Shervin: +1 with the transliteration.
16:30:51 <mostafa> … We already have links there.
16:31:12 <mostafa> … It’s possible to link to each glossary item using the ID I put there for them.
16:31:31 <Shervin> <a href="#def_hangingindentation" class="termref">
16:31:39 <mostafa> … I agree that we are not limited to the table format. We can switch any time. I just think the table format is more convenient.
16:32:41 <mostafa> Richard: ReSpec already has a way of adding links. We can use that.
16:33:21 <r12a> https://www.w3.org/respec/ref.html
16:34:23 <Shervin> ack r12a
16:34:44 <mostafa> Shervin: I add an action item for transliteration and checking ReSpec for links.
16:38:49 <mostafa> … We are a bit short on the Persian part of the glossary.
16:41:07 <mostafa> … Action-32 is for Najib. Is this done?
16:41:28 <mostafa> Najib: Yes. The translations are almost done. The transliterations are ongoing.
16:42:41 <mostafa> Shervin: Action-36 is about examplar charts.
16:42:56 <mostafa> … I don’t have any updates in this regard yet. This is ongoing.
16:42:57 <mostafa> q+
16:43:27 <Shervin> ack mostafa
16:43:28 <mostafa> Shervin: Action-38 is where Richard did the work for me. This is a very good guide. Thanks.
16:44:25 <mostafa> Mostafa: I can take action-36 off your hands if your too busy with other ones.
16:44:33 <mostafa> Shervin: Certainly. This would be great.
16:44:58 <Shervin> https://github.com/shervinafshar/icu-stew
16:45:32 <najib> q+
16:45:45 <Shervin> ack najib
16:47:07 <mostafa> Najib: I could also take some actions from others, like action-21 from Mostafa or action-45 from Behnam.
16:47:22 <r12a> http://w3c.github.io/elreq/
16:47:28 <mostafa> Shervin: Action-40 is for Richard.
16:47:35 <najib> s/take some/help on/
16:47:52 <mostafa> Richard: I haven’t worked on this one yet.
16:48:45 <mostafa> … Similar work has been done on the Etyopic Layout Requirement document.
16:48:54 <mostafa> … What we want to do is similar to that.
16:49:06 <r12a> http://w3c.github.io/elreq/#relative_character_heights
16:51:17 <r12a> http://rishida.net/blog/index.php?s=arabic&submit=Go
16:51:28 <r12a> http://rishida.net/blog/?p=1059
16:51:42 <mostafa> Richard: I can contribute some draft for the justification section.
16:51:55 <mostafa> … I have a blog post about it which I can contribute.
16:52:38 <mostafa> Shervin: Sure. Justification is one of the topics where there are a lot of different opinions about.
16:53:22 <r12a> http://www.unicode-oman.org/program/
16:53:42 <mostafa> Richard: I also want to say that I’m going to Oman for the Unicode event and I’ll try to speak to other people and invite them to join.
16:54:16 <mostafa> https://github.com/w3c/alreq/issues/28
16:55:10 <mostafa> Mostafa: For action-41 I opened a Github issue for discussing this part. This part is very small.
16:55:59 <mostafa> Shervin: Let’s give some time to folks for reviewing this and we can gather comments and merge this next week.
16:57:08 <mostafa> Richard: Action-43 is done.
16:57:14 <r12a> http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/alreq/
16:57:18 <mostafa> … Action-44 is done as well.
16:57:23 <r12a> http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/alreq/charter
16:59:15 <mostafa> … This is the start of a trend for other W3C projects too.
17:00:18 <Shervin> agenda?
17:00:56 <Shervin> agenda- 5
17:01:56 <najib> najib has left #alreq
17:02:04 <Shervin> zakim, please excuse us.
17:02:04 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees have been Behnam, mostafa, r12a, Amr, najib, Shervin, Waseem
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17:02:14 <r12a> rrsagent, draft minutes
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17:02:31 <RRSAgent> I see no action items