IRC log of exi on 2016-01-12

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Meeting: Efficient XML Interchange Working Group Teleconference
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Date: 12 January 2016
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present: DP, TK, CB, JavierF
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scribe: TK
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scribeNick: taki
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TOPIC: EXI for JSON
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DP: Decimal support is marked as at risk.
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DP: We will be able to remove it safely later.
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DP: Appendix now talks about design decisions.
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DP: I got comments from DB. I already implemented most of them.
15:19:12 [dape]
http://services.w3.org/htmldiff?doc1=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2FXML%2FEXI%2Fdocs%2Fjson%2Fexi-for-json.html&doc2=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.peintner.org%2Ftmp%2Fexi-for-json.html
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DP: JSON-LD supports certain keywords. It is an additional item we started to discuss at TPAC.
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DP: It is also more general topic.
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DP: Options we define in our documents. "strict" and "schemaId".
15:35:52 [taki]
DP: I would stick with current schema ID. In the next version, we can add "-2" or something to indicate version.
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DP: Steven Williams suggested us to use BSON as well.
15:38:33 [taki]
DP: I am not BSON expert, but I know it is a binary format.
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DP: "strict" is required because unknown elements are not convenient for EXI to JSON conversion.
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DP: By requiring strict, implementation can be simpler.
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JF: Appendix talks about implementation.
15:45:44 [taki]
JF: Appendix has schema.
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DP: Appendix B is schema. section 3 discuss conversion rules.
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... DP showing exificient implementation online...
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JF: My first impression was this was about conversion.
15:51:47 [taki]
TK: I think we can describe the reason why we require "strict" in design decision.
15:54:52 [taki]
CB: We can publish as a Note, or can publish it saying it will be revised.
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CB: Note in general means final.
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CB: Drafts invite comments much more than Notes.
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DP: Liam suggested we first publish draft or note. In the future, we can work on making it REC.
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DP: Currently, we have schema in the document. I want to make the schema available separately.
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CB: We can make a copy somewhere, that's ok.
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CB: Schema doesn't have to be normative since it is for draft.
16:03:39 [caribou]
once published https://www.w3.org/TR/exi-for-json
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DP: I want to have the document and schema consistent.
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https://www.w3.org/TR/exi-for-json/schema-for-json.xsd
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www.w3.org/2016/exi-for-json-schema.xsd
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CB: We need to describe in the draft that we have another place that manages latest schema.
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CB: The schema and document need to be modified at the same time.
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DP: Can Carine check and modify SOTD?
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CB: Yes, I will do that.
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TOPIC: Canonical EXI
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TOPIC: Call for opinions on how to represent empty elements in Canonical EXI
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DP: Latest draft mentions both approaches.
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DP: I am fine with going ahead with approach B.
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TK: The group decided to choose approach B for how to represent empty elements.
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DP: I will update the document accordingly.
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TOPIC: Whitespace preservation mode
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DP: Section 4.2.5 describes whitespace handling rules.
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TK: I will review that section.
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rrsagent, create minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/01/12-exi-minutes.html taki
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