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15:51:27 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 2119
15:51:27 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot
15:51:28 <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
15:51:28 <trackbot> Date: 19 November 2015
15:51:36 <janina> agenda?
15:51:47 <janina> zakim, clear agenda
15:51:47 <Zakim> agenda cleared
15:51:52 <janina> agenda+ Identify Scribe http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/index.php?title=Scribe_List
15:51:55 <janina> agenda+ Agenda Edits & Additions
15:51:58 <janina> agenda+ Housekeeping Updates -- Work Statement, Decision Policy, Etc.
15:52:00 <janina> agenda+ Alt Doc Update -- Janina, Shane, Liam
15:52:03 <janina> Agenda+ Footnotes Update -- Shane
15:52:05 <janina> agenda+ Accessibility API Update -- Cynthia
15:52:08 <janina> agenda+ TF Open Actions  http://w3.org/wai/pf/html/track
15:52:10 <janina> agenda+ Other Business
15:52:13 <janina> agenda+ be done
15:52:50 <janina>  zakim, next item
15:52:50 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Agenda Edits & Additions" taken up [from janina]
15:52:59 <janina> zakim, take up item 1
15:52:59 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Identify Scribe http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/index.php?title=Scribe_List" taken up [from janina]
15:54:18 <janina> present+
15:59:29 <janina> regrets: chaals, leonie
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16:04:05 <liam> present+ Liam
16:04:17 <liam> present+ MarkS
16:04:31 <liam> present+ JS
16:06:59 <joanie> present+ Joanmarie_Diggs
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16:10:51 <liam> scribe: liam
16:10:55 <liam> zakim, take up agendum 1
16:10:56 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Identify Scribe http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/index.php?title=Scribe_List" taken up [from janina]
16:11:05 <liam> zakim, take up agendum 2
16:11:06 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Agenda Edits & Additions" taken up [from janina]
16:11:43 <liam> zakim, take up agendum 3
16:11:43 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Housekeeping Updates -- Work Statement, Decision Policy, Etc." taken up [from janina]
16:12:51 <liam> password will be given out only in IRC, and only using "/me" so not on the record.
16:13:04 <liam> JS: It's possible to get to MIT webex via SIP
16:13:25 <liam> directly if you're using ipv4, but not if using ipv6
16:13:42 <liam> You may need to turn reinvite off in your sip client
16:13:54 <liam> I'll send email.
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16:14:19 <liam> Other items include work statement, decision policy, name APA + Web Platforms instead of PF and HTML, maybe other tweaks.
16:14:52 <liam> Also some discussion regarding joint documents similarly
16:15:07 <liam> e.g. there's one between ARIA and WP
16:15:58 <IanPouncey> present+ IanPouncey
16:16:13 <liam> JS: We need to hold up alt because of tweaks we're expecting related to extended descriptions- looking like aria-describedat will be repalced by HTML details & summary, but our requirements aren't yet met
16:16:41 <liam> The disambiguation between use of detail/summary for an image description vs another purpose needs to be firmed up, probably in December.
16:17:02 <liam> So there will be edits to the draft alt document, so premature to ask WCAG and EO to weigh in on it.
16:18:02 <MarkS> LQ: I've been following the describedat conversation closely.  I will go through the alt doc and close as many issues as possible, like typos and these new details about summary/details
16:18:09 <MarkS> ...once we reach consensus
16:18:32 <liam> JS: once we get that consensus we'll review the text here.
16:19:03 <ShaneM> I have nothing new to report on this.  and can't get my audio to work :/
16:19:09 <liam> [ShaneM not on the call]
16:19:46 <liam> [Cynthia not on the call]
16:21:01 <liam> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/open
16:21:13 <ShaneM> Present+ ShaneM
16:21:25 <liam> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/334 Send out note requestiong wider review (includes wcag and eo)
16:22:43 <liam> done
16:22:48 <liam> s/done/open/
16:23:00 <liam> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/335 Start a cfc to publish maur as a note
16:23:01 <liam> done
16:23:13 <liam> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/341 Shane re. footnotes, done
16:24:13 <liam> JS: want to refer to footnotes from multiple places in a document and to go back to the right place
16:24:24 <liam> and to be able to read footnotes without going through the document
16:24:48 <liam> ShaneM: the old access element had support for this sort of use case
16:24:57 <liam> ... based on roles.
16:25:27 <liam> This is no longer just accessibility, but a larger context. And every time we say HTML should be extended to cover notes.
16:25:32 <liam> And every time people push back.
16:26:02 <liam> Someone needs to enumerate requirements
16:26:52 <ShaneM> http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml-access/
16:26:53 <liam> ShaneM: PF WG had responsibility for access element inherited from HTML 2 WG
16:27:10 <liam> JS: we took care of role & forgot the other.
16:28:42 <liam> JS: Next week in the US is the time we're grateful for the fact in the US we've welcomed so many immigrants... Thanksgiving... so no call next week
16:29:24 <liam> Next call will be 3rd December. Look in IRC for the appropriate password at that time.
16:29:29 <liam> Adjourned
16:29:55 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been Janina, Judy, IanPouncey, Liam, MarkS, JS, Joanmarie_Diggs, ShaneM
16:30:07 <liam> present+ Shane
16:30:12 <liam> present- Shane
16:30:14 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been Janina, Judy, IanPouncey, Liam, MarkS, JS, Joanmarie_Diggs, ShaneM
16:30:46 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/11/19-html-a11y-minutes.html liam
17:01:33 <liam> liam has changed the topic to: The password for this meeting has been changed and is *not* to be shared in agendas, IRC topics or other public places. Thank you
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19:02:25 <liam> ShaneM, I added some more requirements to your NOTES wiki page
19:07:42 <liam> np no hurry
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