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14:00:37 <trackbot> Meeting: Protocols and Formats Working Group Teleconference
14:00:37 <trackbot> Date: 12 November 2015
14:00:52 <richardschwerdtfeger> meetin: DPUB ARIA Task Force
14:00:59 <richardschwerdtfeger> chair: Tzviya
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14:01:51 <tzviya> present+ TzviyaSiegman
14:02:09 <MichaelC> present+ MichaelC
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14:04:41 <tzviya> agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dpub-aria/2015Nov/0022.html
14:05:04 <tzviya> scribe: Tzviya
14:05:09 <MichaelC> q+ to mention change history
14:05:14 <MichaelC> q+ to mention comment date
14:05:22 <MichaelC> q+ to mention publication dates
14:05:49 <tzviya> Janina: If we create a descriptor role for extended description, would it go in DPUB ARIA?
14:05:59 <tzviya> tzviya: no, it would go in ARIA
14:06:28 <tzviya> rich: we don't have a notion of extended description
14:06:48 <tzviya> Markus: you're saying it's a lot of work, but we don't see how we can live without it
14:07:00 <tzviya> rich: this could delay release of 1.1
14:07:18 <tzviya> ...we'd have to change UI automation
14:07:47 <tzviya> Janina: I am imagining something binary, just a flag that says "this is a description"
14:08:17 <tzviya> ...as opposed to something else, like an advertisement (which could also be in <details>
14:10:03 <tzviya> tzviya: This is an important conversation to have, but this is not the right group to discuss it
14:10:10 <tzviya> ...many more people need to be involved
14:10:26 <tzviya> ...and this is not a concern of DPUB exclusively
14:10:48 <tzviya> ack m
14:10:48 <Zakim> MichaelC, you wanted to mention change history and to mention comment date and to mention publication dates
14:11:14 <tzviya> topic: publication logistics
14:11:39 <tzviya> michael: i've been getting ready to publish DPUB-ARIA module next thursday and DPUB AAM later
14:11:50 <MichaelC> change desciption: This version includes new roles, changes the prefix for role names from "dpub" to "doc", and refines the properties for roles previously defined.
14:13:18 <tzviya> mattG: this is clear. We also added some roles and changed some sublclassing as well
14:13:31 <tzviya> michael: will include document history as well
14:14:36 <tzviya> tzviya: we removed glossterm/glossded because coved in 1.1
14:14:39 <MichaelC> Updated This version includes new roles, removed the glossterm and glossdef roles, changes the prefix for role names from "dpub" to "doc", and refines the properties for roles previously defined.
14:15:11 <tzviya> michael: it would be helpful to add a change history by Friday
14:15:38 <tzviya> ...after Friday, no changes to allow for publication checks
14:17:07 <tzviya> ...we need a comment date. Because of holidays, perhaps we should consider 15 Jan
14:17:16 <tzviya> Tzviya: we are planning a 3PWD also
14:17:42 <tzviya> Michael: we can publish another draft before comment period expires
14:18:21 <tzviya> tzviya: do you need change history from us?
14:18:47 <tzviya> michael: it would be helpful for you to write one, and there is also a generated change history at the end
14:19:02 <tzviya> ...look at a existing publication for samples
14:19:29 <tzviya> ...we also have set of review questions to draw attention
14:19:37 <tzviya> tzviya: point people to issues in the document
14:20:23 <tzviya> topic: DPUB AAN
14:20:41 <tzviya> rich: going to group (from landmark)
14:21:29 <tzviya> ...still want to be able get access to access the section that is a group
14:22:18 <tzviya> ...the role description should still say "epigraph"
14:22:24 <tzviya> matt: yes
14:23:07 <tzviya> rich: the mac platform does not have specialized roles, all have to be translated
14:23:22 <tzviya> ...hard code the english group as the role description
14:24:46 <tzviya> tzviya: So, if there is a non-english publication, then it needs to be transalted?
14:24:52 <tzviya> rich: yes
14:26:16 <tzviya> tzviya: are you recommending translating all strings into multiple languages? How many languages?
14:27:45 <tzviya> ...is this done in AAM? Have you done this in multiple languages with i18n for other strings?
14:28:04 <tzviya> rich: no, we haven't, but DPUB AAM has so many strings and role descriptions
14:28:56 <tzviya> tzviya: I think we should publish FPWD without multiple languages and add a note that we will reach out to i18n with request
14:30:19 <tzviya> ...I don't know how quickly i18n will be able to get to this
14:30:45 <tzviya> ...We also need to figure out where to put the translated information
14:31:25 <tzviya> tzviya: We are ready to get to FPWD?
14:31:34 <tzviya> rich: yes
14:32:21 <tzviya> tzviya: DPUB did a CFC for DPUB ARIA 2PWD on Monday
14:32:46 <tzviya> ...http://www.w3.org/2015/11/09-DPUB-minutes.html#item00
14:33:25 <tzviya> michael: Will do a CFC in ARIA WG by email, hopr to ratufy by Tuesday
14:33:54 <tzviya> s/ratufy/ratify
14:35:07 <tzviya> tzviya: There will be a separate CfC for DPUB AAM FPWD
14:36:39 <tzviya> michael: would be ideal to have CFC for DPUB AAM closed next week
14:38:57 <tzviya> q?
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