01:09:06 RRSAgent has joined #webapps 01:09:06 logging to http://www.w3.org/2015/11/04-webapps-irc 01:10:22 marcosc has joined #webapps 01:10:28 Review TPAC. 01:11:03 Identify next high-prio items 01:12:04 A summary of items we discussed at TPAC: 01:12:18 Add 'Unidentified' to the |code| spec to be used when the code value cannot be determined (eg, with virtual keyboards) 01:12:28 Add descriptive text specifying how |code| should be set for virtual keyboards 01:12:36 Add images in spec for phone arrow pad and numpad section (show position of '*' and '#'). 01:12:48 Remove the virtual modifier key 'Accel' 01:12:56 Remove the 'OS' key and have Windows return 'Meta' (similar to Mac) 01:13:04 Update section on mobile phone keys to specify that arrow keys and Enter should be used for the Android dpad keys. 01:13:46 Need to add example showing how composition events should fire when the composition string overflows the IME buffer. 01:14:04 Those are the big items that I have from TPAC. 01:14:20 Have these issues been committed in the spec yet? 01:14:25 There were also various updates to the |key| values based on Android KEYCODEs. 01:15:04 I haven't written the updated descriptions nor have I created the new images. 01:15:11 But most of the |key| values have been updated. 01:15:52 I have a few more small updates (the "11" and "12" key, plus an updated desc for the "0" key for the HDMI-CEC usage) 01:16:39 OK. Perhaps we should focus this week on landing those changes and then meet next week to review the next round? Also, I'd like to start a testing plan... 01:17:09 My assumption is that the work related to Ranges and contentEditable are being done by the Editing task force. And that we only need to track it to make sure it keeps moving forward. 01:17:48 The lack of progress with testing is my biggest disappointment with TPAC - the Editing meeting took over the time I wanted to spend on that. :-( 01:18:13 But we can do the testing on our own, whereas the Editing work needed the big group together... 01:18:30 travis: sgtm 01:19:25 I'll make my remaining changes over the next few days. 01:19:36 That is my basic understanding as well. There was some discussion with the Editing TF about where to spec some of their changes, and I can't recall if we landed on a resolution. 01:20:05 e.g., should the input and beforeInput algorithms be incorporated into our doc or kept in theirs... 01:23:05 SGTM, input and beforeinput are important for the relation between keyboard events and composition events. The document which recommend web developers to use them instead of key events should be in UIEvents spec. 01:23:34 As for where this should live, the Edit TF will keep |beforeinput| and |input| for now, but we need to keep the info about the order of events (relative to other events) in UIEvents. 01:23:54 So, the info will be split (unfortunately) between Editing and UIEvents. 01:25:11 Longer term, I think it makes sense to move the InputEvent IDL into UIEvents. 01:25:33 But it makes sense for it to stay in Editing for the time being as long as they are actively working on it and making progress. 01:26:44 To clarify: the info will be split because all of the Editing info related to these events belongs in the Editing spec, not in UIEvents. Whereas UIEvents needs to have the event-order info. 01:29:34 masayuki: There was one |key| value that changed name: 'MediaSkip' -> 'MediaSkipForward' 01:29:42 Because we now have 'MediaSkipBackward' 01:30:15 garykac: Oh, thank you for the information. 01:32:15 That's all I have for this week. 01:33:07 I'll be landing the updates we agreed up over the next week. 01:33:11 I think that Firefox will follow the new key spec at Firefox 45 or 46. 01:34:12 masayuki: I should have all those Android key codes that you requested added to the spec in the next week. 01:34:23 tantek has joined #webapps 01:34:40 garykac: Thank you for your great work!! 01:35:39 No problem. I love the progress that Mozilla is making in this area. 01:35:45 For next week, I think we should split time 50/50 between going over the bugs and working on a test plan. 01:36:02 Probably start with bugs and then switch over to testing... 01:43:53 Sounds good to me. 01:47:09 I just fixed https://github.com/w3c/DOM-Level-3-Events-code/issues/6 (removing USB Usage IDs from the |code| tables. 01:49:33 By next week, my plan is to close out all the |key| and |code| bugs. 01:49:46 Anyway, I'm going to head out. now. 01:50:05 Same time next week? 01:50:07 joannawu has joined #webapps 01:50:11 Same time. 01:50:13 Thanks Gary. 01:50:24 Okay, see you next week. 01:50:26 See you all then. 01:50:28 Thanks 01:51:57 RRSAgent, please generate the minutes 01:51:57 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/11/04-webapps-minutes.html Travis 01:52:06 RRSAgent, make logs public 02:13:39 marcosc has joined #webapps 02:23:45 marcosc_ has joined #webapps 02:41:34 sicking has joined #webapps 03:06:15 jyasskin has joined #webapps 03:30:09 marcosc has joined #webapps 03:50:28 joannawu has joined #webapps 05:02:56 karl has joined #webapps 05:21:15 joannawu has joined #webapps 05:22:32 jyasskin has joined #webapps 06:01:23 estellevw has joined #webapps 06:04:24 sicking has joined #webapps 06:23:31 marcosc has joined #webapps 06:37:01 joannawu has joined #webapps 06:40:39 zcorpan has joined #webapps 06:44:24 sicking has joined #webapps 07:20:04 Florian has joined #webapps 07:58:38 sicking has joined #webapps 08:00:03 Florian has joined #webapps 08:00:39 zcorpan has joined #webapps 08:10:20 dom has joined #webapps 08:25:33 joannawu has joined #webapps 08:52:20 marcosc has joined #webapps 09:10:52 LJWatson has joined #webapps 09:59:54 wilsonpage has joined #webapps 10:02:04 wilsonpa_ has joined #webapps 10:06:01 wilsonpage has joined #webapps 10:33:31 marcosc has joined #webapps 10:54:47 ArtB has joined #webapps 11:19:00 Florian has joined #webapps 11:24:23 guillaume has joined #webapps 11:36:13 jmajnert has joined #webapps 11:46:59 chaals has joined #webapps 11:53:09 joannawu has joined #webapps 12:01:18 wilsonpa_ has joined #webapps 12:27:02 wilsonpage has joined #webapps 12:39:49 smaug has joined #webapps 13:00:29 LJWatson has joined #webapps 13:41:49 wilsonpage has joined #webapps 14:46:28 LJWatson has joined #webapps 14:57:52 chaals has joined #webapps 15:20:11 Hixie has joined #webapps 15:23:57 smaug has joined #webapps 15:24:16 wilsonpage has joined #webapps 15:48:51 estellevw has joined #webapps 15:50:54 fjh has joined #webapps 16:00:42 LJWatson has joined #webapps 16:04:52 jyasskin has joined #webapps 16:06:13 zcorpan has joined #webapps 16:18:13 estellevw has joined #webapps 16:43:10 wilsonpage has joined #webapps 16:45:39 zcorpan has joined #webapps 16:57:08 tantek has joined #webapps 17:05:35 zcorpan has joined #webapps 17:05:56 bkardell_ has joined #webapps 17:48:49 sicking has joined #webapps 17:53:12 joannawu has joined #webapps 18:32:26 tantek has joined #webapps 19:27:50 sicking has joined #webapps 20:54:15 zcorpan has joined #webapps 20:57:19 sicking has joined #webapps 21:36:47 sicking has joined #webapps 21:47:38 sicking has joined #webapps 22:00:21 sicking has joined #webapps 22:23:58 tantek has joined #webapps 22:46:07 Florian has joined #webapps 23:35:04 marcosc has joined #webapps 23:53:03 sicking has left #webapps