15:50:18 RRSAgent has joined #webrtc 15:50:18 logging to http://www.w3.org/2015/09/09-webrtc-irc 15:50:24 Zakim has joined #webrtc 15:50:34 agenda:http://www.w3.org/2011/04/webrtc/wiki/September_9_-_10_2015 15:50:36 Meeting: WebRTC Working Group F2F 15:50:39 RRSAgent, make logs public 15:50:43 chairs: hta, stefanH, erikL 15:50:52 RRSAgent, draft minutes 15:50:52 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/09/09-webrtc-minutes.html vivien 15:55:55 jib has joined #webrtc 15:57:15 mreavy has joined #webrtc 15:57:15 jesup has joined #webrtc 15:57:55 jib has joined #webrtc 15:58:44 mreavy|mac has joined #webrtc 16:00:28 I can hear the room now 16:00:34 Me too 16:03:51 adamR has joined #webrtc 16:04:01 dom_ has joined #webrtc 16:04:16 mreavy|mac has joined #webrtc 16:04:28 hta has joined #webrtc 16:04:30 I hear the room 16:04:34 yup 16:05:16 stefanh has joined #webrtc 16:05:37 I can hear as well, almost no signal noise at all 16:06:12 sounds good now (the remote person); they were weak before 16:06:24 yup 16:06:27 yeah they are adjusting their end 16:07:51 we have video 16:07:53 AndyH has joined #webrtc 16:07:55 Now can see video of the chairs 16:07:56 yay 16:08:26 Topic: Welcome 16:08:32 hta: welcome 16:09:15 ... this is an interim meeting of the webrtc wg with bits from media capture task force 16:11:01 Present: harald, stefan, erikL, vivien, dom, danBurnett, AlanJ, MathieuH, Alexandre, DanD, PeterT, @@@Citrix, Keith, Cullen, Justin, EKR, AdamR, BernardA, ShinJun 16:11:46 I'm losing the signal from the room 16:11:54 I'm still good 16:12:08 On the phone: Jesus, Sherwin_temasys, Maire, AdamB, AndyH, DavidDias, JanIvar 16:13:05 hta: we're here to make decisions; a decision at the meeting gets announced to the list with a delay before they're final 16:13:15 Victor Pascual also on the phone -- sorry was muted 16:13:50 DrAlex has joined #webrtc 16:13:51 ShijunS has joined #webrtc 16:14:04 scribenick: DrAlex 16:14:05 burn has joined #webrtc 16:14:07 DanD has joined #webrtc 16:14:18 going through the agenda 16:14:20 Topic: status of documents 16:14:51 next point is "view of status document" 16:15:58 fluffy has joined #webrtc 16:16:32 getusermedia is still in LC 16:16:40 KG has joined #webrtc 16:16:45 a few comments are still being addressed, but it s mainly stable and shipped. 16:16:52 webrtc 1.0 is still not done. 16:17:10 there will be more sessions those two days about points still in fly. 16:18:07 we have also new things 16:18:10 media recorder 16:18:13 in need of an editor 16:18:26 screen capture: we have a spec but maybe some lack of interest 16:18:48 the other specs (audio output, image capture) are in an unknown spec. 16:19:06 justin: audio ouput control has initial implementation in chrome 16:19:22 audio output crontol implemented in chrome 16:19:24 but nt final 16:19:28 waiting for feedback 16:19:30 ... doc is mostly complete in terms of impl feedback 16:19:36 chrome 46 16:19:39 behind a flag 16:19:51 implementation feedback will be pushed to the spec 16:19:54 then we could move to LC 16:20:03 on screencapture 16:20:08 the spec is out there 16:20:17 bunch of pen issues that needs to be updated 16:20:27 there is no implementation in Browser yet (AFAIK) 16:20:43 so we need to probe interest from browser vendors 16:20:43 s/on screencapture/Keith: on screencapture/ 16:20:56 it seems that what is in the browser and what is in spec is different 16:21:06 and we just need to double check 16:21:13 things like app share vs window share 16:21:20 mozilla is in favor of having it 16:21:25 it s just a matter of process 16:21:40 mathieu has joined #webrtc 16:21:47 ekr we need to either 16:21:55 find more people to come in and help 16:21:59 or focus on 1.0 first 16:22:10 because of constrained ressources 16:22:49 mozilla implements screen capture but an older spec 16:23:03 what about implementation from canvas? 16:23:10 video element -> MS 16:23:21 should be implemented in 33, behind a pref 16:23:41 what about depth channel ? 16:23:58 dom: there are still a few changes to be made on the specs. 16:24:17 dom: this document is a good candidate to be transferred to the new timed media group 16:24:23 s/what about/Harald: what about/ 16:24:28 what about media capture in workers 16:24:49 dom: corresponding work has just started, really. 16:25:24 stefan: note on the media output document, the web audio group mentionned they will have some comments to contribute 16:25:36 dom: I think the stats are missing from the list 16:25:50 harvald: i ll update the document list, but I think it s on track 16:26:03 harvald: let s go in the "non document" part 16:26:17 harvald: about timed data tracks 16:26:35 there was an objection at Last Call because we would not support subtitles e.g. 16:26:50 stefan: yes, we decided to to address that in the current spec 16:27:04 as the spec can be updated / extended anyway 16:27:15 justin: what about if we want to use DataChannel instead? 16:27:29 dan: I was in that call actually 16:27:41 From chair: if remote people can't hear what's said, please complain here. 16:27:49 dan: that information (subtitle) is considered part of data 16:27:58 dan:as in part of the audio/video 16:28:30 dan: we were able to explain the use case that is driving our specs today, and that there was no intention to restrict the specs to that 16:28:47 dan: eventually we will explain how to extend the specs 16:29:02 justin: how does it work with