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16:29:44 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be WAI_UAWG
16:29:44 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot
16:29:45 <trackbot> Meeting: User Agent Accessibility Guidelines Working Group Teleconference
16:29:45 <trackbot> Date: 27 August 2015
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16:29:57 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/08/27-ua-minutes.html allanj
16:30:08 <allanj> chair: jim
16:30:17 <allanj> scribe: allanj
16:53:16 <allanj> Agenda+ candidate implementations/extensions for each SC - narrow scope
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17:13:41 <allanj> agenda?
17:14:15 <allanj> http://w3c.github.io/UAAG-Implementations/Implementations-by-feature
17:15:16 <allanj> topic:  	1.8.7 Customize Viewport Highlighting
17:23:42 <allanj> difficult to jump between frames, very little indication of a viewport being focused.
17:25:58 <allanj> http://www.yourhtmlsource.com/examples/frameset1.html
17:29:02 <allanj> only firefox highlight frames. no one highlights iframes, no one can change highlighting or border for viewport highlighting.
17:30:40 <allanj> f6 moves between address bar and main viewport in all.
17:30:45 <allanj> AT RISK
17:31:01 <allanj> topic:  	1.8.8 Allow Viewport Resize:
17:33:31 <allanj> perhaps Stylish can override resize(attrib) in css?
17:34:17 <Greg> A textarea with an author-specified height and width is still resizable in Firefox:
17:34:18 <Greg> <textarea style="width: 178px; height: 108px;" id="text_area" name="textarea" rows="5" cols="20"></textarea>
17:35:47 <allanj> html test page https://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/www/testel.html
17:37:02 <allanj> NO keyboard control for resizing.
17:38:36 <allanj> cannot resize viewports with speech. very difficult
17:39:02 <allanj> menu commands for windows, no commands for internal elements
17:39:34 <allanj> speech - excel has keyboard commands to resize columns and rows.
17:43:43 <allanj> html - textarea and video element can change with mouse but not keyboard (frames)
17:44:16 <allanj> for iframes - stylish may work to add resize(attrib) http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8117761/how-can-i-make-an-iframe-resizable
17:44:39 <allanj> but...still no keyboard control.
17:45:24 <allanj> @@ this is a failure of 2.1.1
17:50:44 <allanj> summary: 1.8.8 is doable for textarea, video players, frames, and iframes with the mouse. may need the addition of Stylish to add resizability. FF, Safari, Chrome. none have functionality from the keyboard. IE8 does not resize textarea.
17:51:05 <allanj> topic: 1.8.9 Provide Viewport History
17:52:15 <allanj> http://www.tsbvi.edu/2015-08-25-19-42-57/request-infant?view=form
17:53:31 <allanj> ff maintains point of regard, not maintain form content (using forward and back button)
17:53:56 <allanj> safari does not restore anything. v8.0.7
17:55:43 <allanj> ie maintains point of regard and form content
17:58:27 <allanj> ff maintains point of regard and form content
18:00:09 <allanj> chrome maintains point of regard and form content but not input focus
18:00:39 <allanj> s/ff maintains point of regard and form content/ff maintains point of regard and form content and input focus
18:01:44 <allanj> s/ie maintains point of regard and form content/ie maintains point of regard and form content and input focus
18:02:14 <allanj> change - safari maintains point of regard and form content and input focus
18:02:38 <allanj> all tested on  https://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/www/testel.html (plain and simple html)
18:04:15 <allanj> ff is the only browser to maintain selection highlighting
18:05:16 <allanj> topic: 1.8.10 Allow Top-Level Viewport Open on Request:
18:08:24 <allanj> all browsers have a configuration setting for blocking popup window
18:08:41 <allanj> topic:  	1.8.11 Allow Top-Level Viewport Focus Control:
18:13:32 <allanj> ff Open new windows in a new tab instead and When I open a link in a new tab, switch to it immediately
18:17:21 <allanj> safari, IE, chrome, no focus control.
18:17:45 <allanj> need to create a test page to popup a window.
18:18:28 <allanj> http://rip747.github.io/popupwindow/
18:22:16 <allanj> http://www.textfixer.com/html/javascript-pop-up-window.php
18:23:37 <allanj> topic:  	1.8.12 Allow Same User Interface:
18:23:50 <allanj> no browser does this. there are no extensions
18:35:00 <allanj> there is some issues. greg with ff on http://rip747.github.io/popupwindow/ all open in a new tab with same interface. jim cannot make that happen in his FF.
18:35:09 <allanj> rrsagent, make minutes
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18:35:19 <allanj> present: kim, greg, jim
18:35:22 <allanj> present: kim, greg, jim
18:35:25 <allanj> rrsagent, make minutes
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