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14:22:53 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot
14:22:54 <trackbot> Meeting: Digital Publishing Interest Group Teleconference
14:22:55 <trackbot> Date: 24 August 2015
14:23:56 <ivan> Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-digipub-ig/2015Aug/0077.html
14:23:59 <ivan> chair: Markus
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14:58:36 <tzviya> agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-digipub-ig/2015Aug/0121.html
14:59:12 <mgylling> Present+ Markus_Gylling
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15:02:32 <ivan> scribenick: TimCole
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15:02:48 <ivan> Chair: Tzviya
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15:03:14 <tzviya> http://www.w3.org/2015/08/17-dpub-minutes.html
15:03:23 <TimCole> Topic: Minutes
15:03:26 <HeatherF> ship 'em!
15:03:39 <TimCole> Minutes Approved.
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15:03:50 <ivan> Topic: update of A11y task force
15:03:51 <TimCole> Topic: Update on Accessibility
15:03:52 <bjdmeest> Present+ Ben_De_Meester
15:04:08 <pbelfanti> present + Paul Belfanti
15:04:13 <clapierre> http://w3c.github.io/dpub-accessibility/
15:04:32 <TimCole> clapierre: progress on note ongoing, but a little slow
15:04:42 <TimCole> ... a number of topics to fill in
15:04:59 <TimCole> ... image descriptions task is taking some time (working with P&F / ARIA)
15:05:17 <TimCole> ... need to get this into a spec that can be used
15:05:27 <TimCole> ... looking at alternatives that may be better fit
15:05:38 <TimCole> ... a lot of discussion on MathML lately
15:05:53 <TimCole> ... this also has taken some focus away from producing the Note
15:06:07 <TimCole> ... will be looking for reviews from this group.
15:06:14 <lrosenth> q+
15:06:48 <TimCole> deborah: we sometimes think about digital publishing as a special case of Web publishing, but really DPub has some different needs when it comes to Accessibility
15:06:52 <tzviya> ack lr
15:07:01 <TimCole> ... really appreciate input from this group.
15:07:36 <TimCole> lrosenth: good information in the draft note, but some of these issues have been addressed in an ISO std. (which one?)
15:08:05 <TimCole> ... conceptually some of these items in PDF UA may be helpful
15:08:27 <TimCole> deborah: we want to encourage 2 way communications with other groups
15:08:42 <lrosenth> will do!
15:08:46 <TimCole> clapierre: please add edits or issues to the current draft on github
15:09:23 <tzviya> http://www.w3.org/2015/08/extended-description-analysis
15:09:46 <clapierre> wil do
15:09:46 <TimCole> tzviya: adding an additional link to P&F grid about DPub requirements; they've asked for a punch list of comments from DPub
15:10:07 <TimCole> ... our requirements are already well reflected in this draft from P&F
15:10:22 <HeatherF> Even positive comments are worthwhile
15:10:31 <TimCole> ... conversations about some our requests, e.g., details
15:12:14 <TimCole> deborah: (in response to a question) the sub-group is on top of getting the note done, though help is always welcome.
15:12:43 <TimCole> Topic: document about publishing requirements for packaging
15:12:44 <tzviya> https://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Requirements_for_Web_Publication_and_Packaging
15:13:10 <lrosenth> +1 to move it forward
15:13:15 <tzviya> +1
15:13:18 <TimCole> tzviya: there has been a lot of talking about the document, but we seem to have approached consensus as of end of last week
15:13:20 <ivan> +1
15:13:20 <pkra> +1
15:13:20 <mgylling> +1
15:13:23 <HeatherF> +1
15:13:26 <NickRuffilo> +1
15:13:27 <ivan> q+
15:13:29 <clapierre> +1
15:13:31 <TimCole> ... are we ready to push this forward (+1_
15:13:32 <tzviya> ack ivan
15:13:42 <bjdmeest> +1
15:13:47 <Karen> +1
15:13:47 <lrosenth> q+
15:13:52 <Julie_Morris> +1
15:14:04 <Bill_Kasdorf> +1
15:14:11 <pbelfanti> +1
15:14:36 <TimCole> ivan: before sending to public list, we may worth contacting ??? to see if this is the form of comments they want to receive
15:14:48 <tzviya> s/???/Yves
15:15:17 <TimCole> ... we did this partly for ourselves, but also this will be of interest to Eve and others working on packaging standard
15:15:29 <lrosenth> q-
15:15:37 <TimCole> ... so we should check with them to make sure format is of use.
15:15:57 <TimCole> ... alternatively we could distill out something more specific to their needs
15:15:58 <tzviya> S/Eve/Yves
15:16:19 <TimCole> ... tzviya or markus will send a note to see.
15:17:03 <TimCole> tzviya: assuming we send this forward to Yves, do we leave it as a Wiki page or publish more formally?
15:17:25 <TimCole> ivan: Don't know what they will prefer. For us Wiki page is okay, but they may want something more formal.
15:17:40 <TimCole> ... we need to check to see if Yves is on vacation
15:18:04 <TimCole> ... should be back by end of the week.
15:18:22 <tzviya> https://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Oct_2015_F2F_Logistics_and_Details
15:18:30 <lrosenth> q+
15:18:49 <tzviya> ack lr
15:18:52 <ivan> q+
15:18:52 <clapierre> q+
15:19:09 <TimCole> tzviya: There are people in this group who have registered for TPAC, but have not registered for DPub session? Are they going to attend DPub and what would they want to talk about?
15:19:24 <tzviya> ack ivan
15:19:27 <HeatherF> q+
15:19:34 <TimCole> ivan: in response to question, there will be WebEx for those who want to participate remotely.
15:19:43 <tzviya> https://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Oct_2015_F2F_Logistics_and_Details
15:20:09 <TimCole> ivan: there is a topic that came up on the mailing list - we may want to have a discussion of glossary of the terms we (DPub) uses
15:20:23 <TimCole> ... this might be a good thing to have by no later than TPAC
15:20:53 <TimCole> ... it's good to have a clear idea for ourselves and others about what we mean, especially in contrast to some of these terms as used on the Web
15:21:04 <TimCole> ... will facilitate future work
15:21:12 <HeatherF> +1
15:21:21 <mgylling> q?
15:21:22 <TimCole> tzviya: a great idea
15:21:40 <TimCole> ... case in point - the word 'semantics'
15:22:02 <TimCole> ... let's start a wiki page now
15:22:14 <TimCole> ivan: will do start this wiki page
15:22:23 <tzviya> ack cl
15:22:55 <TimCole> clapierre: just got confirmation that I will be going to TPAC
15:23:38 <TimCole> ... would want to schedule some time to talk about Accessibility - do we need to coordinate with P&F and/or CSS
15:24:09 <pbelfanti> q+
15:24:21 <TimCole> ... have we heard about DPub charter renewal
15:25:12 <TimCole> ivan: we had a good number of positive votes, vote being reviewed, should here in a week or two
15:25:17 <tzviya> ack heather
15:25:39 <TimCole> HeatherF: Any advice for first-time TPAC attendees?
15:25:44 <tzviya> ack pbel
15:26:18 <TimCole> pbelfanti: has a request in to attend TPAC
15:26:57 <TimCole> ... would like to talk about topics raised by Daniel ???
15:27:13 <tzviya> s/???/Glazman
15:27:29 <TimCole> tzviya: not everyone is aware of these topics?
15:28:45 <TimCole> ... will review on a call before TPAC
15:29:21 <TimCole> ... the logistics page provides an opportunity to suggest topics / task force discussions for TPAC
15:29:51 <pkra> do we want to talk about that MathML thread?
15:30:03 <pkra> ...
15:31:42 <tzviya> q?
15:31:50 <Bill_Kasdorf> +1 to looking at Liam's e-mail
15:31:54 <TimCole> tzviya: if we do want to move forward with being a bit more activist, the MathML discussion suggested some possible ways forward.
15:32:17 <HeatherF> thanks
15:32:17 <TimCole> ... adjourn early.
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15:33:29 <ivan> trackbot, end telcon
15:33:29 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
15:33:29 <Zakim> sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is
15:33:37 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
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15:33:38 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
15:33:38 <RRSAgent> I see no action items