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14:43:44 <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
14:43:44 <trackbot> Date: 06 August 2015
14:45:28 <janina> agenda?
14:45:32 <janina> agenda+ Identify Scribe http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/index.php?title=Scribe_List
14:45:36 <janina> agenda+ Agenda Edits & Additions
14:45:38 <janina> agenda+ Canvas 2D Level 1 Progress -- Rich, Mark, Janina, Paul, PLH
14:45:41 <janina> agenda+ Transcript Support Update -- Chaals
14:45:43 <janina> agenda+ Alt Doc Update -- Shane, Liam
14:45:46 <janina> agenda+ Tab Panels Update -- Leonie, Et Al
14:45:48 <janina> agenda+ Web Payments Accessibility Followup
14:45:51 <janina> agenda+ Bug Triage -- Leonie
14:45:53 <janina> agenda+ TF Open Actions  http://w3.org/wai/pf/html/track
14:45:56 <janina> agenda+ Other Business
14:45:58 <janina> agenda+ be done
14:48:33 <janina>  zakim, next item
14:48:33 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Identify Scribe http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/index.php?title=Scribe_List" taken up [from janina]
14:54:21 <janina> present+ janina
14:54:25 <janina> chair: janina
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15:03:26 <joanie> present+ Joanmarie_Diggs
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15:04:26 <janina> Your theory proves out, imo
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15:04:33 <paulc> Are we expecting Rich today?
15:04:38 <MarkS> scribe: MarkS
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15:05:37 <MarkS> agenda?
15:05:46 <MarkS> zakim, take up item 1
15:05:46 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Identify Scribe http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/index.php?title=Scribe_List" taken up [from janina]
15:06:14 <MarkS> zakim, take up item 2
15:06:14 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Agenda Edits & Additions" taken up [from janina]
15:06:38 <MarkS> JS: anything to add to agenda today?
15:06:50 <MarkS> zakim, close item 2
15:06:50 <Zakim> agendum 2, Agenda Edits & Additions, closed
15:06:51 <Zakim> I see 10 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
15:06:51 <Zakim> 1. Identify Scribe http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/index.php?title=Scribe_List [from janina]
15:06:55 <MarkS> zakim, take up next item
15:06:55 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Identify Scribe http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/index.php?title=Scribe_List" taken up [from janina]
15:07:04 <MarkS> zakim, close item 1
15:07:04 <Zakim> agendum 1, Identify Scribe http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/index.php?title=Scribe_List, closed
15:07:06 <Zakim> I see 9 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
15:07:06 <Zakim> 3. Canvas 2D Level 1 Progress -- Rich, Mark, Janina, Paul, PLH [from janina]
15:07:10 <MarkS> zakim, take up next item
15:07:10 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Canvas 2D Level 1 Progress -- Rich, Mark, Janina, Paul, PLH" taken up [from janina]
15:07:33 <MarkS> JS: Rich is not here, but he did give us an update.  We reduced the number of tests that were failing.
15:07:40 <MarkS> ...locating email from Rich
15:08:02 <janina> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2015Aug/0006.html
15:08:26 <IanPouncey> present+ Ian Pouncey
15:08:45 <MarkS> ...looks like we have a few more bugs but we are making progress
15:09:36 <MarkS> PC: correct on the bugs.  Wondering if we have enough CR evidence to move forward (implemenations)
15:10:10 <MarkS> ...the general consensus from Rich and PLH was that chrome had a bug but it didn't stop us from advancing.  but that may have changed.  I think we need a new high level summary.
15:10:40 <MarkS> JS: The bugs we have found seem to be small implementation bugs, nothing that would bring into question implementability
15:10:59 <MarkS> PC: I need to get confirmation so I can get started on a transition request.  Need to know if there are any blockers.
15:11:27 <MarkS> ...PLH is on vacation, haven't been able to reach him.  I will follow up with Rich on this.
15:12:01 <MarkS> zakim, take up next item
15:12:01 <Zakim> agendum 4. "Transcript Support Update -- Chaals" taken up [from janina]
15:12:26 <MarkS> JS: chaals has been working on draft of transcript support.  plan to move forward as an extension.
15:12:45 <MarkS> ...need to determine if its ready for FPWD
15:12:56 <MarkS> ...Leonie has taken a look and thinks it is.
15:13:18 <MarkS> ...Chaals thinks it is ready
15:13:35 <MarkS> ...please take a look on the list and respond if there are any concerns.
15:14:21 <MarkS> ...Will need to run this through PF and HTML
15:14:27 <MarkS> ...CFC
15:14:49 <MarkS> PC: I will look through this as well to see what shape it is in.
15:15:34 <MarkS> ...there is an issues list.  are they in Github?  Trying to find repo for this.
15:15:56 <MarkS> LW: Its still in chaals repo.  if we agree this is ready for FPWD, we can move it into W3C space
15:16:15 <MarkS> JS: we will need it in W3C space with boilerplate before putting out the CFC
15:16:33 <MarkS> PC: need to identify a short name as well.  propose html-transcript
15:16:38 <MarkS> JS: agreed
15:16:50 <janina> regrets: Judy, Liam
15:17:00 <MarkS> LW: let me get the link to chaos repo
15:17:44 <MarkS> s/chaos/chaals
15:18:08 <LJWatson> The repo for Transcript is here: https://github.com/chaals/html-transcript
15:18:14 <MarkS> PC: I'm not sure we need to move it to run it through CFC, but we DO need a stable URL.
15:18:19 <MarkS> JS: Makes sense
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15:18:36 <MarkS> PC: What we need is a candidate FPWD for review.
15:19:21 <MarkS> JS: Some of this can be performed by Liam.  We will pull all these pieces together.
15:19:34 <MarkS> ...anything else on transcript?
15:19:38 <MarkS> zakim, take up next item
15:19:38 <Zakim> agendum 5. "Alt Doc Update -- Shane, Liam" taken up [from janina]
15:20:22 <MarkS> JS: Neither shane nor Liam is here.  Anyone else have a status update or any discussion points?
15:20:34 <MarkS> ...hope we can move forward on this fairly soon.
15:20:42 <MarkS> ...file bugs if you have any issues.
15:20:47 <MarkS> zakim, close item 5
15:20:47 <Zakim> agendum 5, Alt Doc Update -- Shane, Liam, closed
15:20:48 <Zakim> I see 6 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
15:20:48 <Zakim> 6. Tab Panels Update -- Leonie, Et Al [from janina]
15:20:51 <MarkS> zakim, take up next item
15:20:51 <Zakim> agendum 6. "Tab Panels Update -- Leonie, Et Al" taken up [from janina]
15:21:10 <MarkS> LW: no update
15:22:00 <MarkS> ...Summary: there is some disagreement amongst editors about next steps.  Considering incubator groups for comments and discussion.  Considering a blog post to introduce it and invite discussion.
15:22:14 <MarkS> JS: doing both is another option
15:22:40 <MarkS> LW: trying to figure out how much of an introduction we want to put up before we put it out for comment
15:22:57 <MarkS> zakim, take up next item
15:22:57 <Zakim> agendum 7. "Web Payments Accessibility Followup" taken up [from janina]
15:23:54 <MarkS> JS: follow from last week's discussion. we had action items.  Facilitators have not yet met to discuss options, next steps.  Everyone should review last week's minutes to get the background on this.
15:24:11 <MarkS> ...Web Payments group is looking forward to working with us on this.
15:24:15 <paulc> q+
15:24:25 <MarkS> ...need to start thinking of the accessibility issues, user requirements.
15:24:37 <MarkS> ...much like Media Accessibility User Requirements
15:25:23 <MarkS> ...probably be a sub-group of us that starts to work on this.
15:25:39 <MarkS> ...comments or questions?
15:25:41 <paulc> Proposed Web Payments WG charter was sent out for review yesterday:   http://www.w3.org/2015/06/payments-wg-charter
15:25:41 <janina> ack p
15:26:07 <MarkS> PC: the WP WG Charter was sent out yesterday to the AC for review.
15:26:23 <MarkS> ...the TF or sub-group may want to take a look at this.
15:26:46 <MarkS> JS: We will do that.
15:26:50 <MarkS> zakim, take up next item
15:26:50 <Zakim> agendum 8. "Bug Triage -- Leonie" taken up [from janina]
15:27:22 <MarkS> LW: still in holding pattern until we find out how the HTML spec work is going to evolve.
15:27:55 <MarkS> ...have been in discussion with Robin who is in collaboration with others.
15:28:05 <MarkS> JS: should we still keep this on the agenda?
15:28:11 <MarkS> LW: yes, i think we should.
15:28:28 <MarkS> zakim, take up next item
15:28:28 <Zakim> agendum 9. "TF Open Actions  http://w3.org/wai/pf/html/track" taken up [from janina]
15:29:51 <MarkS> ACTION-330, get matrix to shane on JF
15:29:58 <MarkS> JS: I will follow up with JF on that
15:30:25 <MarkS> ACTION-329 Media Descriptons topic on chaals
15:30:58 <MarkS> JS: chaals is not here
15:31:07 <MarkS> ACTION-324 is still open
15:31:46 <MarkS> ACTION-318 on Cyns to work with Leonie on Web Driver work.  still open
15:32:19 <MarkS> CS: LW, how does OCT 15 sound for a discussion
15:32:24 <MarkS> LW: sounds good
15:32:56 <MarkS> zakim, close ACTION-260
15:32:56 <Zakim> I don't understand 'close ACTION-260', MarkS
15:33:17 <MarkS> trackbot, close ACTION-260
15:33:17 <trackbot> Closed ACTION-260.
15:35:16 <MarkS> CS: Leave my remaining actions active.  I will either make progress or update if OBE
15:35:28 <MarkS> zakim, take up next item
15:35:28 <Zakim> agendum 10. "Other Business" taken up [from janina]
15:35:54 <MarkS> CS: any movement on Web Apps / HTML Charter?
15:36:08 <MarkS> JS: Chaals is not here, Leonie?  Paul?
15:36:29 <MarkS> LW: Went to AC for review wednesday of last week.  It's open until Thursday 9/10
15:37:03 <MarkS> zakim, take up item 3
15:37:03 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Canvas 2D Level 1 Progress -- Rich, Mark, Janina, Paul, PLH" taken up [from janina]
15:37:30 <MarkS> RS: Firefox, accessibility aside, there width and height are off everywhere a few pixels.
15:37:40 <MarkS> s/there/their
15:37:49 <MarkS> JS: nothing wrong with the spec, that is a true bug
15:38:24 <MarkS> RS: the only other think left.  need to make sure the IDs are properly associated with regions all the way down to the accessibility API
15:38:26 <janina> q?
15:38:42 <MarkS> ...still a bug regarding clearing a hit region.  its a bug.
15:38:52 <MarkS> JS: Problem with spec?
15:39:08 <MarkS> RS: no, just with implementation.  can't prove until that gets fixed.
15:39:21 <MarkS> ...i see no problems with the spec
15:39:28 <MarkS> PC: have you updated the test results?
15:39:35 <MarkS> RS: only to the list, not on the wiki
15:39:47 <MarkS> PC: we will need that to happen before we can move forward.
15:39:58 <paulc> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2015Aug/0011.html  for our questions
15:40:50 <MarkS> PC: if this group agrees that none of the artifacts block progress, I think i have all we need except for just the test report.
15:41:09 <MarkS> ...will need to follow up with PLH regardless, but if that can be done in the next week, that would be great.
15:41:42 <MarkS> RS: really hope Dominic acknowledges the bug and fixes the harness to verify
15:42:28 <MarkS> PC: PLH may be out for 3 weeks
15:43:20 <MarkS> RS: I will follow up with dominic and try to update the test results this week.
15:43:34 <MarkS> PC: then respond on list, and I will follow up with PLH and we can move forward.
15:43:44 <MarkS> RS: the end is in sight though!
15:44:21 <MarkS> zakim, close item 3
15:44:21 <Zakim> agendum 3, Canvas 2D Level 1 Progress -- Rich, Mark, Janina, Paul, PLH, closed
15:44:23 <Zakim> I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
15:44:23 <Zakim> 10. Other Business [from janina]
15:44:25 <MarkS> zakim, close item 10
15:44:25 <Zakim> agendum 10, Other Business, closed
15:44:26 <Zakim> I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
15:44:26 <Zakim> 11. be done [from janina]
15:44:35 <MarkS> [adjourned]
15:45:09 <MarkS> sure, I have until 12:00
15:45:12 <MarkS> then hard stop
15:45:16 <MarkS> calling in a minute
15:45:20 <MarkS> rrsagent, make minutes
15:45:20 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/08/06-html-a11y-minutes.html MarkS
15:46:40 <MarkS> janina, your number has disappeared from my address book despite having called you a few weeks ago...
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