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15:06:13 <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Media Task Force Teleconference
15:06:13 <trackbot> Date: 14 July 2015
15:06:19 <paulc> present+ paulc
15:07:18 <paulc> Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2015Jul/0017.html
15:07:23 <paulc> Chair: paulc
15:07:32 <paulc> Scribenick: paulc
15:08:09 <paulc> Topic: New MSE bugs
15:08:12 <paulc> Bug 28877 - [MSE] Ambiguous behaviour when running the range removal algorithm
15:08:39 <paulc> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=28877
15:08:49 <paulc> Filed by Mozilla
15:09:54 <paulc> Matt: This bugs seems to align with our bugs a track buffer
15:10:25 <paulc> ... I will check this and determine if the spec needs to be changed.
15:11:13 <paulc> ... This is part of the track buffer set and it seems to be possibily related to the "range removal" bugs.  See later in these minutes
15:12:07 <paulc> There are two editorial bugs
15:12:09 <paulc> Bug 28881 - [MSE] Period instead of comma
15:12:23 <paulc> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=28881
15:12:36 <paulc> Bug 28882 - [MSE] Space before period
15:12:48 <paulc> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=28882
15:13:01 <paulc> Matt: These are assigned to me and they do look editorial
15:13:20 <paulc> ISSUE-5 - Seekable differs from non-MSE behavior
15:13:38 <paulc> https://github.com/w3c/media-source/issues/5
15:14:50 <paulc> Jerry: I am not sure what they are saying.  Is there actually a difference between MSE and the Safari behaviour.
15:15:05 <paulc> Matt: May be related to a previous bugzilla bug.
15:15:32 <paulc> Could the related bug be: Bug 28822 - [MSE] Spec is ambiguous as to event behavior of an explicit MediaSource duration of +Infinity
15:15:44 <paulc> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=28822
15:16:19 <paulc> Matt: ISSUE-5 is related to this.
15:16:59 <paulc> Jerry:  The difference could be MSE goes from zero to highest end time by the buffered attribute and they are proposing a sliding window.
15:17:16 <paulc> Matt: 28822 is probably different.
15:17:33 <paulc> Who is this assigned to?
15:17:49 <paulc> Jerry: It is not assigned currently.
15:18:11 <paulc> Matt: I will take this one and further dialogue is needed.
15:18:16 <paulc> Jerry:  I will help.
15:18:59 <paulc> Topic: Bugs 27980
15:19:18 <paulc> Bug 27980 - [MSE] Ambiguous behaviour when running sourcebuffer.abort()
15:19:31 <paulc> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=27980
15:20:05 <paulc> Matt: My proposal is in https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=27980#c5
15:22:18 <paulc> Matt: What is Netflix doing?
15:22:38 <paulc> Mark: I will look into your question and will get back to you?
15:22:59 <paulc> Matt:  I will put together a pull request to match this proposal and we can discuss that.
15:23:14 <paulc> We also need to hear back from Mozilla.
15:24:12 <paulc> Matt; I will wait for Mark to respond, then do the PR if it is okay and then check with Mozilla.
15:24:46 <paulc> Also related is Bug 27982 - Clarify asynchronicity in duration change algorithm when reducing duration
15:24:58 <paulc> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=27982
15:25:18 <paulc> There was a reference on Jun 30 to a third related bug but I have not found it.
15:25:44 <paulc> See also 28877 https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=28877  noted above
15:26:19 <paulc> Matt: Third related bug is Bug 28557 - Coded frame removal algorithm may introduce discontinuity at end of current coded frame group
15:26:30 <paulc> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=28557
15:27:03 <paulc> rrsagent, generate the minutes
15:27:03 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/07/14-html-media-minutes.html paulc
15:27:29 <paulc> Topic: Next meeting
15:27:59 <paulc> MSE will be discussed in two weeks on Jul 28
15:28:13 <paulc> Adjourned at :27 after the hour.
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