13:56:48 RRSAgent has joined #tt 13:56:48 logging to http://www.w3.org/2015/07/09-tt-irc 13:56:50 RRSAgent, make logs public 13:56:50 Zakim has joined #tt 13:56:52 Zakim, this will be TTML 13:56:52 I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot 13:56:53 Meeting: Timed Text Working Group Teleconference 13:56:53 Date: 09 July 2015 13:58:47 tmichel has joined #tt 14:00:14 Present: nigel, tmichel 14:00:31 chair: nigel 14:00:35 scribe: nigel 14:01:53 Present+ glenn 14:02:01 glenn has joined #tt 14:02:26 Present+ Frans 14:02:40 Present+ glenn 14:02:54 Present+ atai2 14:04:00 Frans has joined #tt 14:04:25 Frans_ has joined #tt 14:04:31 Topic: This meeting 14:05:03 atai2 has joined #tt 14:05:03 nigel: I've put in placeholders for July and August in the agenda. 14:05:14 Frans has joined #tt 14:05:15 Action-407? 14:05:15 Action-407 -- Nigel Megitt to Determine summer schedule -- due 2015-07-02 -- OPEN 14:05:15 http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/407 14:05:25 close Action-407 14:05:25 Closed Action-407. 14:05:32 Frans has joined #tt 14:07:11 nigel: Goes through agenda. Is there any point discussing HTMLCue? 14:07:16 atai2: That's for next week. 14:07:30 nigel: Okay. Reminder to everyone I'm away next week so hoping someone can step in and chair. 14:07:36 nigel: AOB for today? 14:07:52 group: No. 14:08:00 Topic: Action Items 14:08:37 glenn: No updates on my actions. 14:08:44 Action-409? 14:08:44 Action-409 -- Nigel Megitt to Discuss liaison with unicode with richard ishida -- due 2015-07-09 -- OPEN 14:08:44 http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/409 14:09:56 nigel: I sent something to Richard but he hasn't responded. Thierry, next time you talk to him please could you 14:10:04 ... give him a friendly prompt to respond to my email? 14:10:08 tmichel: Okay, will do. 14:10:31 Topic: Issues 14:10:42 issue-341? 14:10:42 issue-341 -- ambiguous definition for determination of descendant region identifier -- open 14:10:42 http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/341 14:11:50 atai2: I added another part of the problem as discussed before - one for Glenn to make a proposal for I think? 14:11:52 nigel: Yes, I think so. 14:12:14 glenn: Yes, it's still on my list. 14:12:27 pal has joined #tt 14:13:02 Present+ pal 14:14:02 issue-396? 14:14:02 issue-396 -- Invalid codepoints (el) -- pending review 14:14:02 http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/396 14:14:39 pal: I removed the invalid Unicode code points that were included before. 14:15:17 close issue-396 14:15:17 Closed issue-396. 14:15:41 Topic: TPAC 2015 14:15:45 action-408? 14:15:45 action-408 -- Thierry Michel to Coordinate with nigel re: tpac wiki page -- due 2015-07-02 -- OPEN 14:15:45 http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/408 14:16:02 tmichel: I did make a wiki page, here's the URI: 14:16:05 https://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText/tpac2015 14:16:32 tmichel: It includes the logistics, meeting place, how to register. There's a table where participants 14:16:52 ... can give their names and details. It gives some more details about registration, fees, hotels etc. 14:17:02 ... There's a placeholder for the agenda, currently empty. 14:17:38 nigel: Any agenda items already? 14:17:52 tmichel: We may need to discuss rechartering TTWG, as we'll be about 6 months before. This may be 14:17:56 ... a good time to have a discussion about it. 14:18:01 nigel: Good point. 14:19:01 Action-408: [Meeting 2015-07-09] tmichel added https://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText/tpac2015 - can close this action now. 14:19:01 Notes added to Action-408 Coordinate with nigel re: tpac wiki page. 14:19:05 close action-408 14:19:05 Closed action-408. 14:19:45 Topic: IMSC CR2, Test Suite and Implementation Report 14:19:53 action-387? 14:19:53 action-387 -- Pierre-Anthony Lemieux to Collate list of potential implementors of imsc 1. -- due 2015-07-16 -- OPEN 14:19:53 http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/387 14:20:39 pal: I think we can probably close this. If others express interest we can just send them the CfI. 14:21:00 nigel: Thierry, happy to close? 14:21:01 tmichel: Yes 14:21:05 close action-387 14:21:05 Closed action-387. 14:22:04 tmichel: If I've had no responses in September I'll send out a reminder. 14:22:49 nigel: Is this a good time to mention the Unicode liaison? 14:23:13 atai2: We discussed this a few times - I've also informed the EBU group about this to see if we can 14:23:27 ... help and push this further. The more standards bodies who approach Unicode about this the better. 14:23:37 ... It's a common interest, so I hope that we have some feedback from EBU in the next week. 14:24:08 atai2: Just one question. When I went through it again, maybe you said before Pierre, is there anything 14:24:18 ... in the pipeline to extend more the local characters? 14:24:34 pal: One of the reasons to have this managed by Unicode is so that the scope can be increased. It's 14:24:50 ... limited to what it is today because it was based on an actual study of studio content that was 14:25:09 ... available on hand. So for example Japanese may not have been available. The goal in the long run 14:25:19 ... is to extend that list to all locales covered by CLDR. 14:25:32 atai2: It's a good initiative that raises awareness about this issue and that is something that can be 14:25:47 ... used when talking to other people or standards bodies. It's a good start. It's especially useful because 14:25:53 ... there's a study behind it. 14:29:02 Topic: WebVTT review feedback 14:29:09 tmichel: I'm not aware of any progress on this over the last week. 14:29:28 ... The only thing is that I think Silvia said last week if anyone from here wants to help with the 14:29:44 ... resolutions/dispositions that would be welcome, as there's just Silvia and Philip working on it 14:29:47 ... at the moment. 14:30:12 Topic: TTML2 Editorial Actions 14:30:29 nigel: I don't think there's been any progress in these except that the ED of TTML2 now incorporates 14:30:37 ... a few changes made a little while ago. 14:31:14 ... One is the system model at https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/raw-file/default/ttml2/spec/ttml2.html#model 14:31:39 ... and the other is the Requirements conformance in Appendix L. 14:33:59 Topic: Next week 14:34:07 nigel: Any volunteers to chair next week? 14:34:41 nigel: By the way, I meant to say thank you to pal for chairing while I was away recently. 14:35:36 pal: I'm available to chair next week on the 16th. 14:35:38 nigel: Thank you! 14:36:24 nigel: Thanks everyone [adjourns meeting] 14:36:29 rrsagent, make logs public 14:36:34 rrsagent, generate minutes 14:36:34 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/07/09-tt-minutes.html nigel 14:38:33 ScribeOptions: -final -noEmbedDiagnostics 14:38:34 rrsagent, generate minutes 14:38:34 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/07/09-tt-minutes.html nigel 15:48:13 glenn has joined #tt 15:49:19 glenn_ has joined #tt 16:11:24 Zakim has left #tt 16:47:17 nigel_ has joined #tt