12:38:32 RRSAgent has joined #sdw 12:38:32 logging to http://www.w3.org/2015/05/20-sdw-irc 12:38:34 RRSAgent, make logs world 12:38:34 Zakim has joined #sdw 12:38:36 Zakim, this will be SDW 12:38:36 I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot 12:38:37 Meeting: Spatial Data on the Web Working Group Teleconference 12:38:37 Date: 20 May 2015 12:39:12 RRSAgent, make logs public 12:45:49 present+ kerry 12:52:48 DanhLePhuoc has joined #sdw 12:54:02 present+ DanhLePhuoc 12:55:01 Rachel has joined #sdw 12:55:17 present+ Rachel 12:55:20 Frans has joined #sdw 12:55:32 AZ has joined #sdw 12:56:01 eparsons has joined #sdw 12:57:24 PhilippeThiran has joined #sdw 12:58:31 present+PhilippeThiran 12:58:41 MattPerry has joined #sdw 12:59:25 Alejandro_Llaves has joined #sdw 12:59:29 Linda has joined #sdw 12:59:48 present+ Alejandro_Llaves 13:00:12 present+ eparsons 13:00:29 present+ Linda 13:00:38 ebremer has joined #sdw 13:01:04 present+ AZ 13:01:16 present+ Frans 13:01:18 present+ MattPerry 13:01:27 LarsG has joined #sdw 13:01:32 Present+ LarsG 13:01:43 Jitao has joined #sdw 13:02:03 present + Jitao 13:02:10 present+PhilippeThiran 13:02:31 present+ ErichBremer 13:02:33 billroberts has joined #sdw 13:02:47 present+ philippe 13:03:54 regrets+ jeremy 13:04:03 regrets+ phila 13:04:09 regrets+ josh 13:04:23 aharth has joined #sdw 13:04:33 Ian_Holt has joined #sdw 13:04:50 present+ Ian_Holt 13:04:53 present+ aharth 13:05:29 No scribe to record that action! 13:06:07 scribe: eparsons 13:06:35 http://www.w3.org/2015/05/13-sdw-minutes.html 13:06:41 +1 13:06:43 +1 13:06:47 +1 13:06:47 Ed +1 13:06:47 +1 13:06:47 +1 13:06:50 +1 13:06:54 +1 13:06:59 +1 13:07:09 +1 13:07:11 Resolved 13:07:18 ttps://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Patent_Call 13:07:24 Kerry : patent call 13:07:52 resolved: accept last weeks minutes 13:08:17 Kerry : Test of webex from Frans.. 13:09:05 Frans: Press "Share my screen and chose app" 13:10:11 Frans: Also able to share single window.. 13:10:44 looks good to me 13:10:45 I see all the window fine 13:10:48 I can see it 13:10:50 looks good 13:10:51 looks fine for me 13:10:53 CoryHenson has joined #sdw 13:11:23 present+ CoryHenson 13:11:31 Frans: Presentation - publication of 700m triple dataset 13:12:09 Frans: Metadata exposed as html metadata witch spatial aspects 13:12:13 present+ cory 13:12:38 present + cory 13:13:41 ChrisLittle has joined #sdw 13:13:46 Frans: Spatial data uses Dublin core location subject, not at best practice as such could be standardised ? 13:14:42 Frans: Spatial coverage predicate used - extent as geometry as GeoSparql 13:15:37 Frans: Geometry expressed as Lat/long in WGS84 transformed from Dutch National Grid 13:16:14 Frans: Current standard prefer WGS84 it seems ( Default ? ) 13:17:27 Frans: WKT needs CRS ref to be stripped 13:18:53 Frans: WGS84 OK for this applications level of accuracy - Higher accuracy cm's would be difficult !! 13:19:25 Frans: Need to indicate type of data e.g. Vector 13:19:50 Frans: Need to also express resilution 13:20:14 Frans: Not currently possible would be useful.. 13:20:59 Frans: Metadata also includes sparql endpoint so possible to querry 13:22:09 Frans: Geometry allows geocoding... 13:23:38 Frans: Spatial functions supported including creation of a point from Coordinates - could be used for a "where am I" app on a mobile phone 13:24:14 Frans : Use of virtuosso tool has some limitations 13:26:34 Frans : Demo of query to return addresses with postal code - uses semantics from BAG vocab 13:27:13 s/virtuosso/Virtuoso 13:29:17 Any thought to relative spatial data? For example, a symbolic WKT polygon that uses URIs of things as coordinates and that the actual coordinates are attached to those URIs instead of coded onto the WKT string itself? 13:29:39 Frans: Demo of query of global semantics alongside national vocab based semantics 13:30:13 Kerry : Questions 13:30:18 see mine 13:30:27 q? 13:30:45 q+ 13:30:45 q+ 13:31:22 ErichBremer: Relative spatial data URL's as coordinates ? 13:31:30 Rachel has joined #sdw 13:31:51 Frans: This would be a mutation is coords changed - new object 13:32:13 Kerry: URI for everypoint ? 13:32:51 ErichBremer: No URI attached to triangle symbolic link 13:32:52 q? 13:32:57 ack bill 13:33:30 billroberts: Nice illustration - lots of ways to express spatial in RDF - but too many !! 13:33:46 ack erich 13:33:58 billroberts: How to chose whats appropriate is a challenge 13:34:25 Kerry: Quality of presso ? 13:34:26 q+ 13:34:43 q? 13:34:48 q- 13:34:50 ack aharth 13:34:51 q+ 13:34:53 and link to the data? 13:35:01 aharth : Nice to have presentation linked to wiki 13:35:38 kerry: important for people who can't get webex to work 13:35:44 http://lod.geodan.nl/basisreg/bag/ 13:35:44 q- 13:36:12 topic: Use case timeline to First Public Working Draft 13:36:23 Kerry: Agenda switch - use case timeline propsoal 13:36:58 Kerry: Need to move fwd on use cases need help from group to complete 13:37:53 Kerry : Dedicate next meeting to this.. 3rd June vote to progress doc to first public working draft 13:38:23 kerry: This has more status 13:39:09 Kerry : Group needs to agree to this - as we take ownership of it at this point 13:39:37 A FPWD has a permanent URL and a fixed date of publication, while an ED has one URL for a document that changes all the time 13:39:42 Kerry: Allows us to move on to BP Doc 13:39:59 Kerry: According to charter already a year late :-) 13:40:11 q? 13:40:17 Kerry: Think this is achievable any comments ? 13:40:56 topic; Use Case Actions 13:41:07 topic: use case actions 13:41:16 Kerry: Lots of Actions now on tracker... 13:41:36 Kerry: Using w3c tracker at the moment... 13:41:58 http://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/track/ 13:42:12 Rachel has joined #sdw 13:42:28 Kerry: Close my use cases after review 13:42:37 close action-38 13:42:37 Closed action-38. 13:42:47 close action-35 13:42:47 Closed action-35. 13:43:05 action-34 close 13:43:08 Kerry: Completed on spreadsheet doc 13:43:18 action-33 close 13:43:30 action -28 close 13:43:30 Error finding '-28'. You can review and register nicknames at . 13:43:39 action-28 close 13:44:13 Alejandro_Llaves Finished coverage transfer to html - Next phase to collect issues and comments that need group disscussion 13:44:29 Alejandro_Llaves move these to tracker 13:44:43 Kerry: will also cover next week 13:45:39 Kerry: Added new comments when making changes to Use Cases 13:46:12 Alejandro_Llaves New reqs need to be added therefore 13:47:23 q? 13:48:03 Alejandro_Llaves: Like people to check for missing reqs and add comments in spreadsheet 13:48:58 Kerry: Pick on Someone else with actions.. Mattperry 13:49:12 Mattperry: UC 16 can be closed 13:49:14 close action-15 13:49:14 Closed action-15. 13:49:20 q+ 13:49:47 clsoe action-19 13:49:55 close action-19 13:49:55 Closed action-19. 13:50:09 ack 13:50:13 q? 13:50:17 ack bill 13:50:43 close action-27 13:50:43 Closed action-27. 13:50:45 billroberts : Action 27 is duplicate of 18 both to be closed 13:51:25 Frans: Action - work in progress 13:52:13 Kerry: Leave principles stuff out ? Does this work ? 13:52:33 Frans: associated email thread needs to be worked through 13:52:53 Kerry: bring back next week 13:53:41 Kerry : Last 5 mins any other issues to do for use case ? 13:54:16 q? 13:54:56 Frans: Creating issues in tracker works well 13:55:13 Frans: Happy !!! 13:56:15 q? 13:56:44 Alejandro_Llaves : How do we review as a group html doc before it becomes First Working Draft 13:57:39 Alejandro_Llaves: Appreciate wider review before this step.. 13:57:44 My experience in previous groups: two reviewers within the group provide comments 13:57:58 Kerry: Editors can ask one or two people to review... 13:58:07 about the editorial draft 13:58:16 Kerry: Editors need to set the time 13:59:45 Alejandro_Llaves: Some people have more expertise , so editors can select appropriate people 13:59:51 q+ 13:59:56 ack frans 14:00:52 of course, volunteers for reviews are appreciated! 14:00:52 Frans: Technical talks ? 14:01:04 Kerry: Not for next few weeks 14:01:30 the idea would be to look at the different use cases for a specific deliverable, check the description, working links, etc. 14:01:31 Kerry: Thx Frans 14:01:40 thanks, bye! 14:01:41 thank you 14:01:42 thanks, bye 14:01:42 bye 14:01:42 bye 14:01:48 thanks, bye 14:01:48 Thanks 14:01:53 bye 14:01:54 Thanks all - bye 14:02:01 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:02:01 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/05/20-sdw-minutes.html kerry 15:07:41 frans has joined #sdw 16:28:13 Zakim has left #sdw