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15:50:20 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see HTML_WG()12:00PM scheduled to start in 10 minutes
15:50:21 <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
15:50:21 <trackbot> Date: 14 May 2015
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15:55:41 <Titi_Alone> Same for mailing list?
15:57:01 <paulc> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2015AprJun/0000.html
15:57:05 <paulc> Chair: paulc
15:57:14 <paulc> zakim, what is the code?
15:57:14 <Zakim> the conference code is 4865 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), paulc
15:57:40 <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has now started
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15:57:47 <Zakim> +Sam
15:57:58 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
15:58:09 <paulc> zakim, [Microsoft] is me
15:58:09 <Zakim> +paulc; got it
15:58:28 <Zakim> +??P5
15:58:34 <janina> zakim, ??P5 is me
15:58:34 <Zakim> +janina; got it
15:59:09 <Titi_Alone> Can't call Zakim if not group participant?
16:00:23 <paulc> Titi_Alone:  This IRC channel is being used at this time for the weekly HTML WG meeting.
16:00:34 <paulc> Titi_Alone:  Do you need help?
16:01:17 <Zakim> +Plh
16:01:44 <Titi_Alone> paulc: Yes, I want to know if I can hear the conference despite that I'm not a member of the group.
16:02:55 <paulc> Titi_Alone:  You should probably attempt to join the WG first.
16:03:45 <paulc> rrsagent, generate the minutes
16:03:45 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/05/14-html-wg-minutes.html paulc
16:03:49 <rubys> scribenick: rubys
16:05:02 <paulc> test
16:05:15 <rubys> topic: Open ACTION items
16:05:35 <rubys> action-249?
16:05:35 <trackbot> action-249 -- Robin Berjon to Triage new whatwg updates, html bugs, landscape document in order to list priority content for modules -- due 2015-04-05 -- OPEN
16:05:35 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/249
16:06:12 <rubys> paulc: this one is nearly all done; the principle part that isn't done is triage; we are going to put that on hold until the plan is more clear
16:06:37 <rubys> paulc: the document is in place and is picking up the (relatively few) WHATWG changes
16:06:41 <rubys> action-252?
16:06:41 <trackbot> action-252 -- Sam Ruby to - contact polyglot proponents to ask what they plan to do w/ the spec -- due 2015-06-30 -- OPEN
16:06:41 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/252
16:07:25 <rubys> paulc: after TPAC, the chairs have attempted to contact the editors; one has left the wg, and the other is inactive; for now the chairs will put this on hold
16:07:45 <rubys> paulc: there was a survey, which was close.  We will reevaluate when rechartering
16:07:49 <rubys> action-253?
16:07:50 <trackbot> action-253 -- Robin Berjon to File bugs on implementors re: html json form submission -- due 2015-05-23 -- OPEN
16:07:50 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/253
16:08:02 <rubys> paulc: due in 10 days
16:08:20 <rubys> topic: Recent WG Decisions
16:08:33 <rubys> WG Decision: Return Canvas2D to Last Call http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2015May/0018.html
16:08:39 <plh> http://www.w3.org/TR/2015/WD-2dcontext-20150514/
16:09:00 <rubys> paulc: there were substantive changes for accessibility features and to correct some things that previously were left out
16:09:11 <rubys> paulc: last call period is approximately 4 weeks
16:09:18 <rubys> b) WG Decision: Move Encrypted Media Extensions (EME) specification under the terms of the 2014 Process Document http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2015May/0019.html
16:09:46 <rubys> paulc: this will enable the editors to use the new publishing tool
16:10:09 <rubys> WG Decision: Move Using WAI-ARIA in HTML specification under the  terms of the 2014 Process Document http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2015May/0022.html
16:10:23 <rubys> paulc: this is co-published, and is awaiting a decision by PF
16:10:31 <ShaneM> zakim, what is the code?
16:10:31 <Zakim> the conference code is 4865 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), ShaneM
16:10:37 <Zakim> +??P18
16:10:44 <ShaneM> zakim, I am ??P18
16:10:44 <Zakim> +ShaneM; got it
16:10:55 <rubys> janina: there may be confusion in titling; ARIA is HTML is fully HTML WG (previously resolved)
16:11:05 <plh> http://www.w3.org/TR/2015/WD-html-aria-20150514/
16:11:21 <rubys> ... using HTML in HTML is primarily authoring guidance: that we want to continue to jointly manage.
16:11:24 <paulc> http://www.w3.org/TR/2014/WD-aria-in-html-20140626/ Using WAI-ARIA in HTML
16:12:04 <rubys> janina: there were two requests from Steve, there is consensus on heartbeat, but not yet on automated publishing
16:12:15 <rubys> janina: I'll reach out to Steve
16:12:46 <rubys> paulc: the HTML WG doesn't require permission for heartbeats, I think we are OK here
16:13:25 <plh> http://www.w3.org/TR/2015/WD-html-aria-20150514/
16:13:58 <rubys> plh: I don't know where the editor's draft for Using WAI-ARIA in HTML is
16:14:14 <plh> http://w3c.github.io/aria-in-html/
16:14:54 <paulc> Above link is Editor's draft of Using WAI-ARIA in HTML
16:15:04 <rubys> janina: the short-name is confusing
16:15:37 <rubys> paulc: very confusing
16:15:49 <rubys> WG Decision: Move ARIA in HTML specification under the  terms of the 2014  Process Document http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2015May/0021.html
16:16:09 <rubys> paulc: this document had a heartbeat document today
16:16:39 <rubys> topic: HTML WG charter and plan
16:16:52 <rubys> a) Update on HTML plan next steps, Philippe http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2015May/0017.html http://www.w3.org/2015/Talks/0506-html/
16:17:08 <rubys> paulc: charter expires June 30th; lots of discussions re: reengaging the community
16:17:33 <rubys> plh: there are two things happening in parallel.
16:17:38 <paulc> WG charter: http://www.w3.org/2013/09/html-charter.html
16:18:13 <rubys> ... there is a desire to have a CG with a wide scope to incubate ideas, there is a draft charter
16:18:47 <plh> https://w3c.github.io/charter-html/incubator-cg-charter.html
16:19:04 <rubys> plh: the long pole is thought to be the tooling to track contributions
16:19:46 <rubys> plh: for the WG, the situation is more complicated and will take longer.  Adrian Bateman made a proposal prior to the AC; addressing the existing overlap of HTML and WebApps
16:20:06 <rubys> ... the proposal is to reshuffle and end up with four groups
16:20:09 <plh> https://github.com/w3c/charter-html/issues/14
16:20:14 <rubys> ... Robin has proposed a split
16:20:47 <rubys> plh: these proposals need wider review.  This has been discussed at the AB and AC.
16:20:59 <plh> http://w3c.github.io/charter-html/html-plan.html
16:21:15 <rubys> plh: there is an issue with respect to the workmode.  The proposal is to be "data driven"; we need to expand on what that means
16:21:37 <rubys> plh: interop will be done by the WG.
16:22:14 <rubys> plh: timeline regarding the WG is not likely to happen before the charter expires; we will need to figure out how to extend the group and for how long
16:22:29 <rubys> plh: I haven't talked to the WebApps WG yet
16:23:03 <rubys> topic: Other publications
16:23:21 <rubys> https://www.w3.org/wiki/HTML/Publications
16:23:29 <rubys> a) W3C DOM4 Last Call ends on May 19 http://www.w3.org/TR/2015/WD-dom-20150428/ See also: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2015May/0024.html
16:23:54 <rubys> paulc: I sent out a reminder; before the reminder there were no comments
16:24:19 <rubys> paulc: in response, it appears that both Boris and Ted are concerned
16:24:53 <rubys> paulc: it may mean that some parts may need to be marked at risk
16:25:57 <rubys> plh: we need to evaluate these comments, and also figure out why we didn't catch this earlier
16:27:00 <rubys> plh: part of the problem is that new content was added since the first CR
16:27:33 <rubys> b) Call for Implementer Interest: Form HTTP Extensions http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2015Feb/0000.html  See also: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2014Dec/0020.html  Status: Awaiting feedback from implementers
16:27:54 <rubys> paulc: I've been trying to do direct contact
16:28:28 <rubys> topic: Task Force reports
16:28:59 <rubys> janina: there will be a F2F in July for A11y; location TBD (spain/london)
16:30:18 <rubys> janina: there is an ongoing debate/discussion re ARIA role extensions for digital publishing; looking to pull the right people into a telecon
16:30:32 <Zakim> -ShaneM
16:31:50 <rubys> janina: transcript extension specification: John/Chaals have the action; we need input from the Media TF to help pick from the potential solutions
16:32:44 <rubys> paulc: the transcript issue is related to issue 194
16:33:08 <paulc> Media TF April F2F minutes: http://www.w3.org/2015/04/15-html-media-minutes.html and http://www.w3.org/2015/04/16-html-media-minutes.html
16:33:11 <rubys> paulc: people should look at Ted's input
16:33:30 <janina> 1/join #aria
16:33:47 <janina> I'll be late. HTML-WG call running a little while still
16:33:55 <rubys> paulc: we continue to make slow progress
16:34:37 <rubys> paulc: the next progression step for EME would be to go into CR (per 2014 process)
16:35:07 <rubys> paulc: we don't have anything additional to report related to Canvas
16:35:23 <rubys> paulc: the editing TF has been largely dormant
16:35:41 <rubys> paulc: webapps did appt a new editor
16:36:07 <plh> http://www.w3.org/TR/2015/WD-aria-in-html-20150514/
16:36:08 <rubys> topic: Chair and Scribe for next meeting
16:36:24 <rubys> paulc: we will leave that item open; I certainly don't think we need to meet every week
16:36:58 <paulc> rrsagent, generate the minutes
16:36:58 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/05/14-html-wg-minutes.html paulc
16:37:13 <rubys> topic: Adjournment
16:37:37 <Zakim> -janina
16:37:43 <Zakim> -Plh
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16:41:19 <Zakim> -paulc
16:43:01 <Zakim> -Sam
16:43:02 <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has ended
16:43:02 <Zakim> Attendees were Sam, paulc, janina, Plh, ShaneM
16:43:17 <plh> zakim, bye
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