IRC log of html-media on 2015-05-12
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- RRSAgent, make logs public
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- Zakim, this will be 63342
- 14:51:59 [Zakim]
- ok, trackbot; I see HTML_WG()11:00AM scheduled to start in 9 minutes
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- Meeting: HTML Media Task Force Teleconference
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- Date: 12 May 2015
- 14:52:20 [paulc]
- Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2015May/0030.html
- 14:53:29 [MattWolenetz]
- Good morning, Paul.
- 14:53:49 [MattWolenetz]
- My phone connection will hopefully be much improved today.
- 14:58:47 [MattWolenetz]
- btw, w3c-test.org is not responding to me this morning.
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- about to join on the phone
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- 15:02:35 [paulc]
- Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2015May/0030.html
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- 15:04:59 [paulc]
- zakim, who is on the phone?
- 15:04:59 [Zakim]
- I notice HTML_WG()11:00AM has restarted
- 15:05:00 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see MattWolenetz, [Microsoft], jdsmith, Plh
- 15:05:13 [Zakim]
- +geguchi
- 15:05:23 [paulc]
- zakim, [Microsoft] is me
- 15:05:23 [Zakim]
- +paulc; got it
- 15:06:57 [plh]
- http://www.w3.org/2015/07/zakim.html
- 15:08:37 [paulc]
- Topic: Bug 27239 - Update SourceBuffer.appendStream() and related algorithms to use ReadableByteStream
- 15:08:58 [paulc]
- https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=27239#c8
- 15:09:48 [paulc]
- rrsagent, generate the minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/05/12-html-media-minutes.html paulc
- 15:10:23 [plh]
- Paul: we should at lest decide whether we're going to change MSE to change to that interface
- 15:10:44 [plh]
- Matt: think it's a good idea. understand it's part of things we need to wrap up
- 15:10:59 [plh]
- ... I have to go back through and make sure I understand what the changes are
- 15:11:15 [Zakim]
- +BobLund
- 15:11:27 [plh]
- Paul: the MSE changelog in December 2014 has some info.
- 15:11:30 [Zakim]
- -BobLund
- 15:11:41 [plh]
- ... see also the discussion from TPAC last year
- 15:11:55 [plh]
- Matt: ok, will look
- 15:11:58 [Zakim]
- +BobLund
- 15:12:32 [plh]
- Paul: I propose that we reconvene again in 2 weeks
- 15:12:36 [plh]
- ... ie May 26
- 15:12:40 [plh]
- Matt: that's fine
- 15:13:21 [plh]
- Matt: any discussion with Mozilla?
- 15:14:17 [plh]
- Paul: Joe was going to contact them?
- 15:15:48 [paulc]
- http://www.w3.org/2015/04/16-html-media-minutes.html#item01
- 15:15:48 [plh]
- ... looks like it was Mike
- 15:16:23 [plh]
- ... we shoud reach out to Mike and ask a status about the problems from Mozilla
- 15:16:37 [plh]
- Matt: the test runner is having problems
- 15:18:14 [paulc]
- http://www.w3c-test.org/tools/runner/
- 15:18:42 [plh]
- #testing
- 15:18:43 [paulc]
- The test runner is not responsive today. #testing is a useful contact point
- 15:19:43 [plh]
- Matt: exit criteria for MSE.
- 15:20:41 [paulc]
- http://www.w3.org/TR/2015/CR-media-source-20150331/ refers to 'This document is governed by the 1 August 2014 W3C Process Document. " by mistake.
- 15:22:48 [paulc]
- We can either get approval to switch to the default Process or change the SOTD on the next publication.
- 15:23:22 [plh]
- Paul: we have one at-risk feature and we need 2 implementations
- 15:23:56 [plh]
- Matt: the test suite may not be complete and some implementations may not pass the full test suite
- 15:24:32 [plh]
- ... how do we judge that we have enough?
- 15:24:45 [plh]
- Paul: we should aim to have 2 passes for each test
- 15:25:04 [plh]
- Matt: we have multiple mime types
- 15:25:18 [plh]
- ... the 2 user agents need to show conformance for one of the supported codecs
- 15:25:29 [plh]
- ... for example, chrome and IE with MP4 would be sufficient
- 15:25:40 [plh]
- Paul: this is an extension point in the spec
- 15:26:28 [plh]
- ... for EME, they're planning content that can be encrypted in multiple formats
- 15:27:18 [plh]
- http://www.w3.org/2014/Process-20140801/#implementation-experience
- 15:30:26 [plh]
- Jerry: distinction between the interfaces and the formats. positive thing to test all the formats but testing the protocol on 2 or more browsers was the proof that the spec can be implemented
- 15:30:55 [plh]
- ... we don't have WebM support for now but don't want to block the spec on it either
- 15:31:49 [plh]
- Matt: we have a timestamp flag that is true for only one of them
- 15:33:13 [plh]
- q+
- 15:33:29 [paulc]
- rrsagent, generate the minutes
- 15:33:29 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/05/12-html-media-minutes.html paulc
- 15:34:18 [paulc]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2015May/0029.html is plh's update on the HTML WG status
- 15:35:29 [paulc]
- See http://www.w3.org/2015/Talks/0506-html/?full#13 is noted
- 15:35:36 [paulc]
- ack plh
- 15:36:12 [paulc]
- plh: One item being discussed is to move MSE and EME into a new "Media WG".
- 15:36:28 [paulc]
- ... but we want to NOT disrupt the current TF work
- 15:36:40 [paulc]
- ... MSE and EME work should continue unabated for now
- 15:37:28 [paulc]
- rrsagent, generate the minutes
- 15:37:28 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/05/12-html-media-minutes.html paulc
- 15:37:34 [Zakim]
- -jdsmith
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- -BobLund
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- -paulc
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- -MattWolenetz
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- -Plh
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- -geguchi
- 15:37:39 [Zakim]
- HTML_WG()11:00AM has ended
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- Attendees were +1.206.876.aaaa, MattWolenetz, jdsmith, Plh, geguchi, paulc, BobLund
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