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13:56:24 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be LDP
13:56:24 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SW_LDP()10:00AM scheduled to start in 4 minutes
13:56:25 <trackbot> Meeting: Linked Data Platform (LDP) Working Group Teleconference
13:56:25 <trackbot> Date: 27 April 2015
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13:59:09 <Zakim> SW_LDP()10:00AM has now started
13:59:16 <Zakim> +azaroth
13:59:48 <Zakim> +Ashok_Malhotra
14:00:20 <Zakim> +Arnaud
14:00:51 <bblfish> hi
14:01:13 <Arnaud> zakim, who's on the phone?
14:01:13 <Zakim> On the phone I see azaroth, Ashok_Malhotra, Arnaud
14:01:48 <Zakim> +ericP
14:02:00 <Zakim> + +33.6.43.93.aaaa
14:02:11 <bblfish> Zakim, aaaa is me
14:02:11 <Zakim> +bblfish; got it
14:02:15 <Zakim> +OpenLink_Software
14:02:16 <bblfish> yes
14:02:20 <TallTed> Zakim, OpenLink_Software is temporarily me
14:02:20 <Zakim> +TallTed; got it
14:02:22 <TallTed> Zakim, mute me
14:02:22 <Zakim> TallTed should now be muted
14:02:38 <Zakim> +Roger
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14:05:23 <Zakim> +??P16
14:05:26 <Arnaud> deiu, any progress on the charter update?
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14:06:09 <bblfish> I can scribe
14:06:33 <roger> Scribe: Roger
14:06:46 <Arnaud> Proposal: Approve the minutes of the 13 April teleconf: http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/ldp/2015-04-13
14:07:02 <Arnaud> Resolvedl: Approve the minutes of the 13 April teleconf: http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/ldp/2015-04-13
14:07:10 <pchampin> link is broken, no?
14:07:43 <Arnaud> s/Resolvedl/Resolved/
14:08:15 <Zakim> +??P20
14:08:24 <nmihindu> Zakim, ??P20 is me
14:08:24 <Zakim> +nmihindu; got it
14:08:31 <nmihindu> Zakim, mute me
14:08:31 <Zakim> nmihindu should now be muted
14:08:34 <roger> There are two open actions
14:09:00 <roger> Topic: Recent Workshop
14:09:42 <roger> Ashok has sent a draft report to the mailing. Please read and provide feedback. It was a productive and useful.
14:10:11 <roger> Many presentations. Exchange of ideas. People are implementing and using LDP !!
14:10:26 <roger> It was great to see that people are using it.
14:11:01 <roger> People have requirements for extensions.
14:12:14 <roger> List of extensions and requirements evolved during the course of the meeting.
14:12:14 <Ashok> Here is the list of the top 5
14:12:17 <Ashok> 1. Extensibility and Discovery 2. Inlining on Get 3. Query/Search 3.1 SPARQL on LDP (resource-centric) – Queries in SPARQL are either triple oriented (CONSTRUCT) or table oriented (SELECT).  We need to be able to speak about resources such as the members of a container. 3.2 RDF Source-scoped – being able to query LDP-Rs.  Perhaps each LDPR could be considered as its own SPARQL endpoint. 3.3 Paging of query results 4. Client-based paging 5. Access Control inc[CUT]
14:17:12 <roger> Rob took an action to produce some documentation about features present in the existing implementations.
14:17:40 <roger> Andrei took an action to update the charter.
14:19:31 <azaroth> q+
14:19:37 <TallTed> q+
14:20:09 <azaroth> Minor correction: one of my colleagues has already done a lot of work in comparing LDP implementations, so the action on me was just to send that on to the list
14:20:12 <roger> The LDP re-chartering requires a new Chair, because Arnaud will not be available for the job (for a number of reasons)
14:20:40 <bblfish> don't forget that many people  perhaps did not come due to distance, so there must be more people out there interested
14:22:20 <Ashok> Yes, Henry, I'm sure that's true!
14:22:45 <bblfish> very nice.
14:22:48 <bblfish> q+
14:23:02 <Arnaud> ack azaroth
14:23:27 <TallTed> ack me
14:23:28 <Arnaud> ack TallTed
14:24:37 <Arnaud> ack bblfish
14:24:40 <TallTed> Zakim, mute me
14:24:40 <Zakim> TallTed should now be muted
14:25:19 <roger> TallTed: Don't forget about paging. It's important !
14:25:28 <Ashok> Ted ... also paging with inlining of member contents
14:26:04 <nmihindu> bblfish, https://github.com/jasnell/specs/blob/master/httpbis/draft-snell-search-method-00.txt
14:27:51 <azaroth> q+ to suggest just including Vary in all the examples
14:28:14 <Arnaud> ack azaroth
14:28:14 <Zakim> azaroth, you wanted to suggest just including Vary in all the examples
14:28:37 <Ashok> Thanks, Nandana, please all respond on the w3c-ietf mailing list expressing support
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14:32:03 <azaroth> ACTION azaroth to send edits for paging to include Vary header in examples, consider also non-normative sentence in the text
14:32:03 <trackbot> Created ACTION-163 - Send edits for paging to include vary header in examples, consider also non-normative sentence in the text [on Robert Sanderson - due 2015-05-04].
14:33:46 <bblfish> q+
14:33:46 <roger> Arnaud: after Robs edits we could thinking about publishing a working group note from the LDP Paging document.
14:35:29 <Arnaud> ack bblfish
14:35:44 <roger> Arnaud: Two common comments about paging. 1. paging on it's own doesn't do enough - I need querying as well. 2. some have a preference for paging to be more "client-driven"
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14:36:09 <roger> Topic: LD PATCH
14:36:26 <pchampin> https://github.com/pchampin/ld-patch-testsuite/blob/master/README.rst#implementation-reports
14:36:36 <pchampin> https://github.com/pchampin/ld-patch-testsuite/blob/master/README.rst
14:36:36 <Ashok> Sorry!  Gotta go!
14:36:40 <Zakim> -Ashok_Malhotra
14:36:51 <pchampin> https://github.com/pchampin/ld-patch-testsuite/blob/master/reports/
14:37:43 <roger> pchampin: the content is being maintained at github.
14:38:12 <roger> implemention reports are welcome, as well as using the test suite
14:39:18 <roger> Topic: Primer
14:39:37 <roger> Primer is published as a working group note. Thanks to Eric.
14:39:56 <ericP> -> http://www.w3.org/mid/OFB28C9205.102D8D2B-ON85257E18.00532691-85257E18.005330C6@us.ibm.com resolution of i18n-ISSUE-409: What are the string matching rules in the delete operation
14:39:59 <ericP> -> http://www.w3.org/mid/7C0AF84C6D560544A17DDDEB68A9DFB52ECEF992@ex10-mbx-9007.ant.amazon.com ack on resolution of i18n-ISSUE-410: Language tags should reference BCP 47
14:40:02 <ericP> -> http://www.w3.org/mid/OFCE96331D.E58C1710-ON85257E34.004DDF64-85257E34.004DF4BF@us.ibm.com ack on resolution of i18n-ISSUE-411: Definition of whitespace should come from Unicode
14:40:44 <roger> Topic: Any other business ?
14:41:27 <roger> henry: how fixed is the scope for the LDP.next ?
14:41:49 <roger> arnaud: plenty of time for evolution
14:42:20 <roger> although the list is better when it is _short_
14:43:22 <roger> one more thing .... modules better than monolith
14:44:29 <Zakim> -azaroth
14:44:35 <Zakim> -bblfish
14:44:37 <Zakim> -Arnaud
14:44:47 <Zakim> -nmihindu
15:00:48 <Zakim> -TallTed
15:07:30 <Arnaud> trackbot, end meeting
15:07:30 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
15:07:30 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been azaroth, Ashok_Malhotra, Arnaud, ericP, +33.6.43.93.aaaa, bblfish, TallTed, Roger, pchampin, nmihindu
15:07:38 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
15:07:38 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/04/27-ldp-minutes.html trackbot
15:07:39 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
15:07:39 <RRSAgent> I see no action items