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15:00:35 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 2119
15:00:35 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)10:00AM scheduled to start 60 minutes ago
15:00:36 <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
15:00:36 <trackbot> Date: 23 April 2015
15:00:53 <Zakim> WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)10:00AM has now started
15:01:01 <janina> agenda?
15:01:03 <Zakim> +??P0
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15:01:30 <janina> zakim, ??P0 is me
15:01:30 <Zakim> +janina; got it
15:01:36 <janina> Chair: Janina
15:01:36 <janina> agenda+ Identify Scribe http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/index.php?title=Scribe_List
15:01:39 <janina> agenda+ Additional agenda?
15:01:42 <janina> agenda+ CfC  Updates -- Janina, Chaals, Paul
15:01:44 <janina> agenda+ Alt Doc Update -- Shane, Liam
15:01:47 <janina> agenda+ Canvas 2D Level 1 Progress -- Rich, Janina, Paul
15:01:49 <janina> agenda+ Transcript Support Update -- John, Chaals, Cynthia
15:01:52 <janina> agenda+ Other F2F Developments
15:01:54 <janina> agenda+ TF Open Actions  http://w3.org/wai/pf/html/track
15:01:57 <janina> agenda+ Other Business
15:01:59 <janina> agenda+ Identify Chair and Scribe for the next TF teleconference http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/index.php?title=Scribe_List
15:02:02 <janina> agenda+ be done
15:02:08 <janina>  agenda?
15:02:51 <janina> zakim, reorder 4 5 6 7 8 9 1 2 3 10 11 12 13 14
15:02:51 <Zakim> I don't understand you, janina
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15:03:04 <Zakim> +Judy
15:03:08 <Zakim> +Joanmarie_Diggs
15:03:38 <janina> agenda order is 4 5 6 7 8 9 1 2 3 10 11 12 13 14
15:03:48 <janina> agenda?
15:04:05 <Zakim> +JF
15:04:45 <JF> zakim, who's here
15:04:45 <Zakim> JF, you need to end that query with '?'
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15:04:56 <JF> zakim, who's here?
15:04:56 <Zakim> On the phone I see janina, Judy, Joanmarie_Diggs, JF
15:04:58 <Zakim> On IRC I see IanPouncey, JF, Judy, RRSAgent, newtron, ShaneM, IanPouncey1, janina_, janina, liam, sivoais, Zakim, trackbot, cabanier, joanie
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15:07:07 <JF> scribe: JF
15:07:19 <JF> zakim, take up item 4
15:07:19 <Zakim> agendum 4. "Identify Scribe http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/index.php?title=Scribe_List" taken up [from janina]
15:07:21 <Zakim> +ShaneM
15:07:27 <JF> zakim, close item 4
15:07:27 <Zakim> agendum 4, Identify Scribe http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/index.php?title=Scribe_List, closed
15:07:29 <Zakim> I see 13 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
15:07:29 <Zakim> 5. Additional agenda? [from janina]
15:07:38 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
15:07:43 <JF> zakim, take up item 9
15:07:43 <Zakim> agendum 9. "Transcript Support Update -- John, Chaals, Cynthia" taken up [from janina]
15:07:50 <Zakim> +Liam
15:07:53 <IanPouncey2> Zakim, IPcaller is me
15:07:53 <Zakim> +IanPouncey2; got it
15:08:11 <JF> JS: a few issues around transcript
15:08:17 <JF> looking for minutes
15:08:25 <Zakim> -ShaneM
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15:09:14 <paulc> zakim, what is the code?
15:09:14 <Zakim> the conference code is 2119 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), paulc
15:09:40 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
15:09:51 <paulc> zakim, [Microsoft] is me
15:09:51 <Zakim> +paulc; got it
15:10:33 <JF> JF: Clarification around minutes: the TF group on Wednesday didn't do a good job minuting the breakout (need to look for URL), however the meeting with the Media TF were minuted
15:10:41 <JF> JS: what are next steps with Transcript?
15:10:47 <Zakim> +Cynthia_Shelly
15:11:40 <janina> q?
15:12:48 <paulc> Transcript Wiki: https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Full_Transcript
15:13:22 <paulc> Minutes for F2F discussion on Transcript Accessibility: http://www.w3.org/2015/04/15-html-media-minutes.html#item11
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15:17:43 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
15:17:50 <IanPouncey> Zakim, IPcaller is me
15:17:50 <Zakim> +IanPouncey; got it
15:19:25 <paulc> I want the TF to review Ted's ISSUE-194 review "Possible methods for associating transcripts with media elements": http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ISSUE-194/Research
15:19:55 <JF> JF: ONce the wiki pages are cleaned up, they will be shared more widely.
15:20:14 <JF> PC: Need to go back and review Ted O'Connors comments from the past
15:20:17 <JF> Q+
15:20:39 <Judy> q+
15:21:15 <JF> JS: Agree to be mindful of past arguments, but not sure if it's the same viewpoints today as in the past
15:21:33 <JF> PC: Just asking to remember the history
15:22:20 <ShaneM> so call it bagel
15:22:30 <JF> +1 to Shane
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15:25:02 <janina> q?
15:25:09 <paulc> Transcript proposal: https://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ISSUE-194/TranscriptElement
15:25:58 <paulc> That is the proposal that the A11Y TF ad hoc meeting discussed and for which more work is needed.
15:26:12 <janina> ack jf
15:27:18 <Zakim> +Rich_Schwerdtfeger
15:27:35 <janina> ack ju
15:27:53 <JF> JF: Large discussion around the Transcript issue - focused on the two links provided.
15:28:20 <JF> zakim, sho's here?
15:28:20 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, JF.
15:28:32 <janina> zakim, next item
15:28:33 <Zakim> agendum 5. "Additional agenda?" taken up [from janina]
15:28:49 <JF> JS: anything not on the agenda?
15:29:11 <janina> zakim, close this item
15:29:11 <Zakim> agendum 5 closed
15:29:12 <Zakim> I see 11 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
15:29:12 <Zakim> 6. CfC  Updates -- Janina, Chaals, Paul [from janina]
15:29:14 <janina> zakim, next item
15:29:14 <Zakim> agendum 6. "CfC  Updates -- Janina, Chaals, Paul" taken up [from janina]
15:29:56 <JF> JS: Note there is an open CfC on our work statement - looking for a formal consensus on the record. Please re-read and act if so inclined
15:30:22 <janina> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2015Apr/0063.html
15:30:34 <janina> zakim, next item
15:30:34 <Zakim> agendum 7. "Alt Doc Update -- Shane, Liam" taken up [from janina]
15:31:10 <JF> JS: believe we are waiting on PF consensus, after which there will be approval from both sides and we should be able to close
15:31:48 <JF> PC: CfC for the HTML Working group was delayed (gremlins in the system) - going out now
15:32:03 <JF> JS: so that will make it roughly a week out
15:32:27 <janina> zakim, next item
15:32:27 <Zakim> agendum 8. "Canvas 2D Level 1 Progress -- Rich, Janina, Paul" taken up [from janina]
15:32:55 <JF> JS: Paul was looking for a new candidate editor?
15:33:40 <JF> PC: Scribe was incorrect - action is to communicate with current editors to see if one of them could produce a candidate last call draft
15:33:56 <paulc> Paul's request for a revised LC draft of Canvas2D Level 1: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-canvas-api/2015AprJun/0001.html
15:33:59 <JF> that went out Apr. 14th
15:34:00 <paulc> No response so far.
15:34:16 <JF> PC: so far, no response. will continue to pursue this
15:34:31 <JF> JS: will likely want to review once that happens
15:34:43 <JF> PC: no changes since December, so you should be able to review now
15:34:54 <JF> JS: Hit Region support is in now?
15:35:25 <JF> PC: email points to the 2 bugs solved in Dec. - one being the bug rick resolved to fix (missing text)
15:35:48 <JF> PC: if any other changes required, speak up now. For those interested in the 2 new features, start review now
15:36:09 <JF> RS: will look at it over the next week
15:36:17 <JF> PC: just respond to the email message
15:36:30 <JF> RS: just want to look at wording things
15:36:47 <JF> PC: If required, file more bugs - make sure bugs have proposed changes (text changes)
15:37:02 <JF> PC: will contiinue to work on the editors issues
15:37:31 <JF> JS: still have a follow up wioth actual implementations - we know there are bugs, but we need to work on that
15:37:50 <JF> RC: which version are we looking at> current LC, or an editors version?
15:38:28 <JF> PC: current editors draft
15:38:56 <janina> zakim, next item
15:38:56 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Web RTC" taken up [from LJWatson]
15:39:21 <janina> zakim, close this item
15:39:21 <Zakim> agendum 1 closed
15:39:22 <Zakim> I see 7 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
15:39:22 <Zakim> 2. Web VTT [from LJWatson]
15:40:09 <janina> zakim, next item
15:40:09 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Web VTT" taken up [from LJWatson]
15:40:52 <Judy> q+
15:40:57 <janina> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2015Apr/0054.html
15:41:05 <janina> q?
15:41:08 <janina> ack ju
15:41:09 <JF> JF: email went out last week, bugs have been filed
15:41:54 <JF> JB: how does it compare agaisnt the MAUR?
15:42:13 <JF> JS: that's the issue - cannot understand the spec to determine if they are being met
15:42:25 <JF> JB: we need to get this addressed early
15:43:51 <JF> JF: Janina's email linked above outline the issues we uncovered so far
15:44:07 <JF> we may even need to file a bug against HTML 5.1
15:44:19 <JF> around the <audio > element and caption files
15:44:39 <JF> JS: will get a seperate topic email out to the list
15:44:39 <janina> zakim, next item
15:44:39 <Zakim> agendum 3. "SVG navigation strategy" taken up [from LJWatson]
15:45:08 <janina> zakim, close this item
15:45:08 <Zakim> agendum 3 closed
15:45:09 <Zakim> I see 5 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
15:45:09 <Zakim> 10. Other F2F Developments [from janina]
15:45:16 <janina> zakim, next item
15:45:16 <Zakim> agendum 10. "Other F2F Developments" taken up [from janina]
15:46:09 <janina> zakim, close this item
15:46:09 <Zakim> agendum 10 closed
15:46:10 <Zakim> I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
15:46:10 <Zakim> 11. TF Open Actions  http://w3.org/wai/pf/html/track [from janina]
15:46:11 <janina> zakim, next item
15:46:11 <JF> JF: don't believe so, but folks have been traveling
15:46:12 <Zakim> agendum 11. "TF Open Actions  http://w3.org/wai/pf/html/track" taken up [from janina]
15:47:13 <ShaneM> zakim, unmute me
15:47:13 <Zakim> ShaneM was not muted, ShaneM
15:48:04 <janina> q?
15:48:37 <janina> trackbot, close action-313
15:48:37 <trackbot> Closed action-313.
15:48:54 <janina> zakim, next item
15:48:55 <Zakim> agendum 12. "Other Business" taken up [from janina]
15:49:26 <JF> JF: TPAC?
15:50:18 <JF> JS: believe we can have sufficient agenda during TPAC in Japan. The question is, who will be there? Please try to get indications on who will attend, as that will likely inform the agenda to pursue
15:50:47 <JF> JS: need to know this by end of month for planning purposes
15:51:00 <paulc> What is the status of the Doodle poll: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2015Apr/0003.html
15:51:10 <JF> JS: does anyone on the call know if they will be there
15:51:15 <JF> CS: will be there
15:51:17 <ShaneM> I *may* be in Japan
15:51:47 <JF> PC: Last time discussed, there were other alternatives discussed
15:52:04 <paulc> Poll: http://doodle.com/umhcvicyabcta7m8
15:52:07 <JF> PC: there was also some discussion about a summer F2F in Europe
15:52:36 <JF> JS: there still seems to be some forward movement there, but we don't have a proposed date
15:52:43 <ShaneM> zakim. mute me
15:56:39 <JF> PC: does not appear to be a record around the possible summer F2F in Spain - need to get Charles in Charge
15:56:57 <JF> JS: anything else?
15:57:01 <ShaneM> zakim, unmute me
15:57:01 <Zakim> ShaneM was not muted, ShaneM
15:57:09 <JF> JS: adjourned
15:57:18 <Zakim> -Cynthia_Shelly
15:57:27 <Zakim> -Rich_Schwerdtfeger
15:57:27 <Zakim> -Liam
15:57:27 <Zakim> -Joanmarie_Diggs
15:57:31 <Zakim> -JF
15:57:33 <Zakim> -Judy
15:57:34 <Zakim> -paulc
15:57:34 <Zakim> -janina
15:57:35 <Zakim> -ShaneM
15:57:35 <Zakim> WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)10:00AM has ended
15:57:36 <Zakim> Attendees were janina, Judy, Joanmarie_Diggs, JF, ShaneM, Liam, IanPouncey2, paulc, Cynthia_Shelly, IanPouncey, Rich_Schwerdtfeger
15:58:30 <JF> rrsagent, stop log
15:58:30 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'stop log', JF.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
15:58:54 <JF> rrsagent, create minutes
15:58:54 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/04/23-html-a11y-minutes.html JF
15:59:11 <JF> rrsagent, publish minutes
15:59:11 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/04/23-html-a11y-minutes.html JF
15:59:45 <JF> zakim, please part
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16:00:06 <JF> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:00:06 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/04/23-html-a11y-minutes.html JF
16:00:26 <JF> rrsagent, please part
16:00:26 <RRSAgent> I see no action items