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19:31:01 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
19:31:03 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be SDW
19:31:03 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see DATA_SDWWG()4:00PM scheduled to start in 29 minutes
19:31:04 <trackbot> Meeting: Spatial Data on the Web Working Group Teleconference
19:31:04 <trackbot> Date: 08 April 2015
19:31:18 <phila> Chair: Kerry
19:31:22 <phila> Agenda: https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20150408
19:31:51 <phila> Regrets: Lars Svensson, Clemens Portele, Oscar Corcho, Lewis John McGibbney, Rachel Heaven, Jitao Yang, Antoine Zimmerman
19:54:40 <eparsons> eparsons has joined #sdw
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19:55:28 <Zakim> DATA_SDWWG()4:00PM has now started
19:55:31 <Frans> Frans has joined #sdw
19:55:36 <Zakim> +eparsons
19:55:59 <BartvanLeeuwen> BartvanLeeuwen has joined #sdw
19:56:35 <Zakim> +??P1
19:56:44 <Frans> zakim,??P1 is me
19:56:44 <Zakim> +Frans; got it
19:56:45 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
19:57:06 <Linda> Linda has joined #sdw
19:57:26 <Zakim> +kerry
19:58:11 <erich> erich has joined #sdw
19:58:23 <Zakim> +??P4
19:58:39 <billroberts> billroberts has joined #sdw
19:58:42 <Linda> zakim, ??P4 is me
19:58:42 <Zakim> +Linda; got it
19:59:07 <Zakim> +??P5
19:59:23 <eparsons> zakim, list attendees
19:59:23 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been eparsons, Frans, [IPcaller], kerry, Linda
19:59:24 <BartvanLeeuwen> Zakim, ??p5 is me
19:59:25 <Zakim> +BartvanLeeuwen; got it
20:00:00 <SimonCox> SimonCox has joined #sdw
20:00:05 <Zakim> -[IPcaller]
20:00:11 <Zakim> +??P7
20:00:18 <kerry> zakim, who is on the phone?
20:00:18 <Zakim> On the phone I see eparsons, Frans, kerry, Linda, BartvanLeeuwen, ??P7
20:00:37 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
20:00:51 <billroberts> zakim, [IPCaller] is me
20:00:51 <Zakim> +billroberts; got it
20:01:03 <stlemme> stlemme has joined #sdw
20:01:07 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
20:01:08 <IanHolt> IanHolt has joined #sdw
20:01:17 <MattPerry> MattPerry has joined #sdw
20:01:24 <erich> Zakim, +[IPcaller] is me
20:01:24 <Zakim> sorry, erich, I do not recognize a party named '+[IPcaller]'
20:01:28 <kerry> who is on the phone?
20:01:34 <JoshLieberman> JoshLieberman has joined #sdw
20:01:38 <erich> i am
20:01:39 <kerry> zakim, who is on the phonne?
20:01:39 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, kerry.
20:01:50 <kerry> zakim, who is on the phone?
20:01:50 <Zakim> On the phone I see eparsons, Frans, kerry, Linda, BartvanLeeuwen, ??P7 (muted), billroberts, [IPcaller]
20:02:08 <Zakim> +SimonCox
20:02:13 <Zakim> + +1.603.897.aaaa
20:02:22 <MattPerry> zakim, aaaa is me
20:02:22 <Zakim> +MattPerry; got it
20:02:30 <Zakim> + +1.857.919.aabb
20:02:35 <JoshLieberman> aabb is me
20:02:35 <kerry> you cant her me?
20:02:43 <Zakim> +[IPcaller.a]
20:02:48 <AndreaPerego> AndreaPerego has joined #sdw
20:02:48 <phila> zakim, ipcaller.a is me
20:02:49 <Zakim> +phila; got it
20:02:51 <JoshLieberman> zakim, aabb is me
20:02:51 <Zakim> +JoshLieberman; got it
20:02:51 <eparsons> Kerry only just ..
20:03:10 <phila> zakim, who is here?
20:03:10 <Zakim> On the phone I see eparsons, Frans, kerry, Linda, BartvanLeeuwen, ??P7 (muted), billroberts, [IPcaller], SimonCox, MattPerry, JoshLieberman, phila
20:03:12 <Zakim> On IRC I see AndreaPerego, JoshLieberman, MattPerry, IanHolt, stlemme, SimonCox, billroberts, erich, Linda, BartvanLeeuwen, Frans, kerry, eparsons, RRSAgent, Zakim, phila, danbri,
20:03:12 <Zakim> ... trackbot
20:03:17 <Zakim> +[IPcaller.a]
20:03:24 <Zakim> +??P16
20:03:35 <stlemme> I guess I'm P7
20:03:38 <phila> zakim, erich
20:03:38 <Zakim> I don't understand 'erich', phila
20:03:42 <Frans> I have learned the merits of muting myself, as a heavy breather
20:03:43 <phila> zakim, ipcaller is erich
20:03:43 <Zakim> +erich; got it
20:03:43 <IanHolt> zakim, [IP is me
20:03:44 <Zakim> +IanHolt; got it
20:03:50 <Alejandro_Llaves> Alejandro_Llaves has joined #sdw
20:03:55 <AndreaPerego> zakim, ??P16 is me
20:03:56 <Zakim> +AndreaPerego; got it
20:04:09 <AndreaPerego> zakim, mute me
20:04:09 <Zakim> AndreaPerego should now be muted
20:04:43 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
20:04:50 <aharth> aharth has joined #sdw
20:05:31 <Alejandro_Llaves> zakim, IPcaller is me
20:05:31 <Zakim> +Alejandro_Llaves; got it
20:05:37 <CoryHenson> CoryHenson has joined #sdw
20:05:44 <stlemme> zakim, P7 is me
20:05:45 <Zakim> + +49.721.aacc
20:05:45 <Zakim> sorry, stlemme, I do not recognize a party named 'P7'
20:05:54 <stlemme> zakim, ??P7 is me
20:05:54 <Zakim> +stlemme; got it
20:05:56 <aharth> zakim, +49.721.aacc is me
20:05:56 <Zakim> +aharth; got it
20:06:16 <kerry> zakim, who iis on the phone?
20:06:16 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, kerry.
20:06:24 <kerry> zakim, who is on the phone?
20:06:24 <Zakim> On the phone I see eparsons, Frans, kerry, Linda, BartvanLeeuwen, stlemme (muted), billroberts, erich, SimonCox, MattPerry, JoshLieberman, phila, IanHolt, AndreaPerego (muted),
20:06:28 <Zakim> ... Alejandro_Llaves, aharth
20:06:59 <kerry> you cannot hear me?
20:07:08 <eparsons> Kerry - NO
20:08:06 <eparsons> http://www.w3.org/2015/04/01-sdw-minutes.html
20:08:18 <eparsons> http://www.w3.org/2015/04/01-sdw2-minutes.html
20:08:20 <phila> PROPOSED: Accept the two sets of minutes
20:08:36 <eparsons> +1
20:08:37 <Zakim> -kerry
20:08:48 <Linda> +1
20:09:06 <IanHolt> +1
20:09:08 <AndreaPerego> +1
20:09:09 <erich> +1
20:09:09 <MattPerry> +1
20:09:10 <aharth> +1
20:09:11 <phila> +1
20:09:12 <Alejandro_Llaves> +1
20:09:12 <JoshLieberman> +1
20:09:12 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
20:09:13 <SimonCox> +1
20:09:14 <billroberts> I wasn't there so can't comment!
20:09:17 <Frans> +1
20:09:31 <CoryHenson> CoryHenson has joined #sdw
20:09:32 <kerry> i zakim, [ipcaller is me
20:09:42 <phila> RESOLVED: Accept the two sets of minutes
20:09:42 <kerry> zakim, [ipcaller is me
20:09:42 <Zakim> +kerry; got it
20:10:04 <phila> zakim, pick a victim
20:10:04 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose aharth
20:10:11 <phila> zakim, pick another victim
20:10:11 <Zakim> I don't understand 'pick another victim', phila
20:10:15 <phila> zakim, pick a victim
20:10:15 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose SimonCox
20:10:21 <eparsons> scribe : eparsons
20:10:33 <eparsons> zakim, scribe : eparsons
20:10:33 <Zakim> I don't understand 'scribe : eparsons', eparsons
20:10:42 <kerry> regrets: Rachel Heaven, Jitao Yang, Antoine Zimmerman
20:10:43 <phila> scribe; eparsons
20:10:45 <Frans> I promise to read up on scribing, so I can do it a next time
20:10:47 <phila> scribe: eparsons
20:10:52 <phila> scribeNick: eparsons
20:10:56 <kerry> regrets: Lars Svensson, Clemens Portele, Oscar Corcho, Lewis John McGibbney
20:11:19 <kerry> https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Patent_Call
20:11:34 <eparsons> Thx !
20:11:36 <chaals> chaals has joined #sdw
20:11:41 <Zakim> + +1.412.390.aadd
20:11:51 <eparsons> scribe:eparsons
20:11:55 <CoryHenson> zakim, aadd is me
20:11:55 <Zakim> +CoryHenson; got it
20:11:57 <kerry> q?
20:12:19 <phila> -> http://doodle.com/q5894akqwzvbnwca Doodle Poll
20:12:35 <phila> -> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=New+regular+SDW+WG+time&iso=20150415T14&p1=136&ah=1 Leading candidate time
20:12:36 <eparsons> kerry : Doodle Poll open until end of the week
20:12:58 <phila> q+ to ask if next week will be at the new time or old?
20:13:28 <SimonCox> No good options :-(
20:13:34 <phila> ack me
20:13:34 <Zakim> phila, you wanted to ask if next week will be at the new time or old?
20:13:38 <kerry> ack phila
20:13:52 <eparsons> Phila : next week new time ?
20:14:54 <eparsons> Kerry : Depends - leave it open another week  - need to give notice
20:14:57 <kerry> q?
20:16:03 <phila> -> https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Working_Use_Cases The use cases
20:16:11 <eparsons> kerry: Main business summary of two meetings
20:16:18 <phila> -> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PSnpJYQDgsdgZgPJEfUU0EhVfgFFYGc1WL4xUX9Dunk/edit The Spreadsheet
20:16:44 <eparsons> kerry: Volunteers  ?
20:16:45 <kerry> q?
20:16:54 <phila> scribe: phila
20:17:07 <phila> Topic: Best Practices Requirements
20:17:09 <aharth> zakim, who's noisy?
20:17:15 <phila> eparsons: We worked through all the UCs we had
20:17:21 <Zakim> aharth, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: eparsons (91%), kerry (78%)
20:17:27 <phila> ... and then abstract onto the spreadsheet the requirements
20:17:33 <aharth> kerry, could you mute, there's an echo on your line
20:17:40 <phila> ... as the process went on, we came up with fewer and fewer new requirements
20:17:52 <phila> ... most reqs came from first third of the UCs
20:17:59 <phila> ... need to put more detail on those reqs
20:18:06 <kerry> q?
20:18:12 <phila> ... make sure we agree on the meaning
20:18:28 <phila> ... may need go back to the UC authors and check that the Reqs make sense
20:18:45 <phila> ... I need to talk to Frans and make sure he's happy with what we have so far
20:18:45 <kerry> q?
20:18:58 <phila> Frans: Yes... it's nice to see this
20:19:10 <phila> ... I see the work has swicthed from the wiki to the spreadsheet
20:19:14 <phila> ... I saw one Req was added
20:19:21 <phila> ... as proof of the additional work done
20:19:31 <phila> ... I do havea one question.
20:19:43 <phila> s/havea/have/
20:20:14 <phila> Frans: One of the Reqs in the spreadsheet for the BP - I assume each req has passed the scoping questions?
20:20:22 <kerry> q?
20:20:30 <phila> -> https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Scope_questions_and_Requirements Scoping questions
20:20:46 <phila> eparsons: I think we prob need to go through the reqs agaian to apply the scoping questions
20:20:53 <phila> ... just to check that we're in scope
20:20:59 <phila> ... that's my sense that we do need to do that
20:21:06 <AndreaPerego> +1
20:21:16 <AndreaPerego> s/agaian/again/
20:21:26 <Alejandro_Llaves> Agree with Ed
20:21:27 <phila> kerry: From the otehr group, they were implicitly being done as we went along. It's worth a check but I think we're OK on that.
20:21:44 <phila> eparsons: So I think that covers it from the BP work
20:21:44 <kerry> q?
20:22:01 <eparsons> Phila I'm back on scribe
20:22:02 <phila> Topic: Reqs from the SSN, Time and Coverage deliverables
20:22:03 <Alejandro_Llaves> +q
20:22:09 <phila> scribe: eparsons
20:22:14 <kerry> ack ale
20:22:42 <eparsons> Alejandro_llaves: similar approach
20:23:27 <eparsons> Alejandro_Llaves: good idea to apply scope questions again
20:23:53 <SimonCox> +1 Alejandro_Llaves comment on scope of Time Ontology!
20:23:54 <eparsons> Alejandro_Llaves: SimonCox questioned some time reqs
20:24:18 <kerry> q?
20:25:03 <eparsons> Alejandro_Llaves: Need to rephrase reqs next week , checks reqs have associated use case
20:25:07 <kerry> q?
20:25:30 <phila> -> http://w3c.github.io/sdw/UseCases/SDWUseCasesAndRequirements.html Frans's work on the UCR so far
20:26:35 <eparsons> kerry: Action in tracker (good practice)
20:26:53 <phila> action: Kerry to review the requirements against the use cases she added
20:26:53 <trackbot> Created ACTION-13 - Review the requirements against the use cases she added [on Kerry Taylor - due 2015-04-15].
20:26:55 <eparsons> kerry: Phila can help with syntax
20:27:17 <phila> action-13?
20:27:17 <trackbot> action-13 -- Kerry Taylor to Review the requirements against the use cases she added -- due 2015-04-15 -- OPEN
20:27:17 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/track/actions/13
20:28:09 <eparsons> phila: How actions work - swg emails will be picked up by tracker
20:28:24 <phila> action: erich to review the requirements against the use cases she added
20:28:24 <trackbot> Created ACTION-14 - Review the requirements against the use cases she added [on Erich Bremer - due 2015-04-15].
20:28:28 <eparsons> Kerry: Ask people to add actions ?
20:28:36 <kerry> q?
20:28:43 <eparsons> Phila: erich ?
20:28:53 <billroberts> action: billroberts to review requirements for use case 34
20:28:53 <trackbot> Error finding 'billroberts'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/track/users>.
20:28:57 <eparsons> Linda: I do already :-)
20:28:58 <Frans> q+
20:29:04 <erich> q+
20:29:09 <kerry> ack frans
20:29:57 <MattPerry> action: Matthew to review requirements for use case 16
20:29:57 <trackbot> Created ACTION-15 - Review requirements for use case 16 [on Matthew Perry - due 2015-04-15].
20:30:00 <eparsons> Frans: Would it be possible for Reqs to be expanded some only two words
20:30:19 <CoryHenson> action: CoryHenson to review the requirements against the use case he added
20:30:19 <trackbot> Error finding 'CoryHenson'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/track/users>.
20:30:20 <eparsons> Kerry: Would this stop you moving fwd ?
20:30:52 <eparsons> Kerry: Please do as much as you can to add detail
20:30:55 <phila> action: Cory to review the requirements against the use case he added
20:30:55 <trackbot> Created ACTION-16 - Review the requirements against the use case he added [on Cory Henson - due 2015-04-15].
20:30:58 <BartvanLeeuwen> action: BartvanLeeuwen to review requirements for use case 13
20:30:58 <trackbot> Error finding 'BartvanLeeuwen'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/track/users>.
20:31:01 <AndreaPerego> About actions, Just to note that we're still missing Clemens's and Chaals's actions from the Barcelona F2F: https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Minutes_from_Best_Practice_deliverable_group#Summary_of_Action_Items
20:31:08 <phila> action: Bart to review the requirements against the use case he added
20:31:09 <trackbot> Created ACTION-17 - Review the requirements against the use case he added [on Bart van Leeuwen - due 2015-04-15].
20:31:24 <AndreaPerego> s/Just to/just to/
20:31:34 <eparsons> Kerry: Editors please ask contributors to check
20:31:44 <phila>  action: bill to review requirements for use case 34
20:31:49 <phila> action: bill to review requirements for use case 34
20:31:49 <trackbot> Created ACTION-18 - Review requirements for use case 34 [on Bill Roberts - due 2015-04-15].
20:32:06 <billroberts> thanks phila - have just added a nick for myself
20:32:15 <eparsons> Kerry: Action against Coryhenson
20:32:26 <eparsons> Coryhenson: done :-)
20:32:39 <kerry> q?
20:33:30 <eparsons> Kerry : coverage reqs still need to be done, but hold off for a few weeks before extra meeting
20:33:36 <kerry> q?
20:33:43 <kerry> ack erich
20:33:45 <eparsons> Kerry: Any other qs on use cases
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20:34:28 <Zakim> -Alejandro_Llaves
20:34:30 <eparsons> Erich: Interest Nuclear segmentation - large images - thanks phila for his homework
20:34:54 <kerry> q?
20:35:15 <eparsons> Kerry : Next topic wiki
20:35:45 <eparsons> Kerry: Better use, call and email useful but would like wiki to be used more
20:35:59 <eparsons> Kerry: email may get lost...
20:36:20 <eparsons> Kerry: wiki better for recording
20:36:24 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
20:36:40 <Alejandro_Llaves> zakim, IPcaller is me
20:36:40 <Zakim> +Alejandro_Llaves; got it
20:36:58 <eparsons> Kerry: take a look a wiki now - main page>work in progress..
20:37:42 <eparsons> kerry: Added pages for references - existing work to link to use cases
20:38:09 <eparsons> Kerry: Explain why it is useful, feel free to add new pages
20:38:46 <eparsons> Kerry: Also wish list - ideas that could be done in addition to deliverables
20:39:10 <eparsons> Kerry: Thanks to those who have already contributed...
20:39:57 <eparsons> Kerry: Glossary - place to add terms even if you are uncomfortable
20:41:05 <eparsons> Kerry: Ontology design principles  a good example...
20:41:40 <kerry> q?
20:41:47 <eparsons> Kerry: Main point is to document stuff using the wiki...
20:41:55 <kerry> q?
20:42:04 <eparsons> Kerry: Any q's
20:42:15 <phila> q+
20:42:30 <kerry> ack phila
20:42:56 <eparsons> Phila: wiki is active doc, when group is closed it will be frozen as a archive
20:43:26 <eparsons> Phila: Use mailing list rather than individual emails for same reason
20:44:08 <eparsons> Kerry: Completed agenda for today - please vote on time poll
20:45:04 <AndreaPerego> Thanks, bye
20:45:04 <Zakim> -SimonCox
20:45:04 <BartvanLeeuwen> thx kerry
20:45:07 <BartvanLeeuwen> bye
20:45:08 <erich> thanks, bye
20:45:09 <Linda> bye
20:45:09 <Zakim> -JoshLieberman
20:45:10 <Alejandro_Llaves> thanks, bye!
20:45:10 <Zakim> -aharth
20:45:12 <IanHolt> Thanks Kerry. Bye
20:45:12 <Zakim> -BartvanLeeuwen
20:45:13 <Zakim> -stlemme
20:45:13 <Zakim> -erich
20:45:15 <Zakim> -MattPerry
20:45:16 <JoshLieberman> bye
20:45:16 <phila> trackbot, end meeting
20:45:16 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
20:45:16 <Zakim> -CoryHenson
20:45:16 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been eparsons, Frans, kerry, Linda, BartvanLeeuwen, billroberts, SimonCox, +1.603.897.aaaa, MattPerry, +1.857.919.aabb, phila, JoshLieberman,
20:45:16 <Zakim> ... erich, IanHolt, AndreaPerego, Alejandro_Llaves, stlemme, aharth, +1.412.390.aadd, CoryHenson
20:45:17 <Zakim> -billroberts
20:45:18 <eparsons> Kerry : Thank you for your attendance - see you some time next week !
20:45:18 <Zakim> -Alejandro_Llaves
20:45:20 <Zakim> -IanHolt
20:45:20 <Zakim> -Linda
20:45:24 <Zakim> -phila
20:45:24 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
20:45:24 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/04/08-sdw-minutes.html trackbot
20:45:25 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
20:45:25 <RRSAgent> I see 10 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2015/04/08-sdw-actions.rdf :
20:45:25 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Kerry to review the requirements against the use cases she added [1]
20:45:25 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/04/08-sdw-irc#T20-26-53
20:45:25 <RRSAgent> ACTION: erich to review the requirements against the use cases she added [2]
20:45:25 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/04/08-sdw-irc#T20-28-24
20:45:25 <RRSAgent> ACTION: billroberts to review requirements for use case 34 [3]
20:45:25 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/04/08-sdw-irc#T20-28-53
20:45:25 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Matthew to review requirements for use case 16 [4]
20:45:25 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/04/08-sdw-irc#T20-29-57
20:45:25 <RRSAgent> ACTION: CoryHenson to review the requirements against the use case he added [5]
20:45:25 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/04/08-sdw-irc#T20-30-19
20:45:25 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Cory to review the requirements against the use case he added [6]
20:45:25 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/04/08-sdw-irc#T20-30-55
20:45:25 <RRSAgent> ACTION: BartvanLeeuwen to review requirements for use case 13 [7]
20:45:25 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/04/08-sdw-irc#T20-30-58
20:45:25 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Bart to review the requirements against the use case he added [8]
20:45:25 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/04/08-sdw-irc#T20-31-08
20:45:25 <RRSAgent> ACTION: bill to review requirements for use case 34 [9]
20:45:25 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/04/08-sdw-irc#T20-31-44
20:45:25 <RRSAgent> ACTION: bill to review requirements for use case 34 [10]
20:45:25 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/04/08-sdw-irc#T20-31-49
20:45:26 <JoshLieberman> JoshLieberman has left #sdw
20:45:34 <Zakim> -eparsons
20:45:41 <Zakim> -kerry
20:45:46 <Zakim> -Frans