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18:59:33 <bhill2> Meeting: WebAppSec Teleconference 06-April-2015
18:59:37 <bhill2> Chairs: bhill2, dveditz
18:59:42 <bhill2> zakim, this is 92794
18:59:42 <Zakim> bhill2, I see SEC_WASWG()3:00PM in the schedule but not yet started.  Perhaps you mean "this will be 92794".
18:59:50 <bhill2> zakim, this will be 92794
18:59:50 <Zakim> ok, bhill2; I see SEC_WASWG()3:00PM scheduled to start in 1 minute
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19:00:40 <Zakim> SEC_WASWG()3:00PM has now started
19:00:47 <Zakim> +Wendy
19:01:32 <Zakim> +BHill
19:01:54 <Zakim> +??P3
19:02:02 <Zakim> + +1.503.712.aaaa
19:02:12 <terri> Zakim, aaaa is me
19:02:12 <Zakim> +terri; got it
19:02:37 <wseltzer> zakim, ??p3 is francois
19:02:37 <Zakim> +francois; got it
19:02:55 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
19:03:32 <wseltzer> zakim, Microsoft has dwalp
19:03:32 <Zakim> +dwalp; got it
19:03:32 <bhill2> zakim, Microsoft has david walp
19:03:33 <Zakim> +david, walp; got it
19:03:50 <Zakim> + +1.310.597.aabb
19:04:03 <bhill2> zakim, aabb is tanvi
19:04:03 <Zakim> +tanvi; got it
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19:04:17 <tanvi> zakim, who is here
19:04:17 <Zakim> tanvi, you need to end that query with '?'
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19:04:22 <tanvi> zakim, who is here?
19:04:22 <Zakim> On the phone I see Wendy, BHill, francois, terri, [Microsoft], tanvi
19:04:24 <Zakim> [Microsoft] has david, walp
19:04:24 <Zakim> On IRC I see dwalp, tanvi, francois, RRSAgent, Zakim, dveditz, bhill2, renoirb_, deian, mkwst, freddyb, tobie, pde, Josh_Soref, timeless, terri, wseltzer, trackbot
19:05:45 <bhill2> TOPIC: minutes approval
19:05:58 <bhill2> last official call: http://www.w3.org/2011/webappsec/draft-minutes/2015-02-23-webappsec-minutes.html
19:06:08 <bhill2> interim call: http://www.w3.org/2015/03/16-webappsec-minutes.html
19:06:26 <bhill2> any objections to approval by unanimous consent?
19:06:35 <bhill2> hearing no objections, minutes approved
19:06:44 <wseltzer> scribenick: wseltzer
19:07:11 <wseltzer> bhill2: Main item for discussion: what do we want to do on calls going forward?
19:07:30 <wseltzer> ... Rechartering, we gave the mailing list primacy as work mode
19:07:50 <wseltzer> ... and want to make calls productive, given our larger set of deliverables.
19:08:06 <wseltzer> tanvi: Mailing list can be too hard to keep up with, given all our workloads
19:08:27 <wseltzer> ... I like the idea of scheduling calls on specific specs, to let us do homework beforehand
19:08:41 <wseltzer> ... and, in those focused calls, give a bit more time for background summaries
19:08:49 <wseltzer> ... for those who didn't get it all beforehand
19:09:01 <dwalp> dwalp 1+
19:09:11 <wseltzer> bhill2: I'd like to hear from everyone on the call: what do you want to get out of this hour?
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19:09:38 <wseltzer> dwalp: Agree with Tanvi. Calls can be good for progress.
19:09:54 <wseltzer> francois: +1 to proposed workmode
19:10:09 <wseltzer> ... Topical calls with focus to one or two specs.
19:10:20 <wseltzer> ... enable people to plan their attendance.
19:10:44 <wseltzer> bhill2: as editor, are you comfortable signing up to own a call?
19:10:56 <wseltzer> francois: yes, that makes sense to summarize issues and address questions
19:11:24 <wseltzer> bhill2: it can be more work for an editor to prepare a call, but can schedule a dedicated chunk of time
19:11:44 <wseltzer> ... hope it's an improvement for both editors and other participants
19:12:19 <wseltzer> tanvi: a challenge for note-taking; if you're running the call, you won't also be able to take good notes.
19:12:40 <wseltzer> bhill2: An editor running a call shouldn't also be tasked with scribin
19:12:47 <wseltzer> s/scribin/scribing/
19:13:00 <wseltzer> ... can also work to get scribes lined up in advance
19:13:19 <wseltzer> ... Should record resolutions and send them around in response to agenda.
19:13:45 <wseltzer> q+
19:14:22 <bhill2> wseltzer: decisions on Sapporo, F2F earlier...
19:14:51 <bhill2> ... and invite thinking about architectural issues on AppSec with the TAG and help W3C think through what else we need to be looking at
19:15:05 <bhill2> ... if we have extra time on calls I'd love to get this group's braintrust thinking about where else should we be looking
19:15:48 <wseltzer> bhill2: I put in a request for TPAC meeting space
19:16:22 <wseltzer> ... Re: interim F2F, I expect to send mail to list about TAG F2F in Berlin, July
19:16:38 <wseltzer> ... and their question whether WebAppSec was interested in meeting with them
19:16:54 <wseltzer> ... watch for message on the list.
19:18:13 <wseltzer> ... TAG meeting is week before Prague IETF
19:18:26 <wseltzer> wseltzer: and Sapporo TPAC is week before Yokohama IETF
19:18:36 <Zakim> -Wendy
19:18:37 <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
19:18:39 <bhill2> rrsagent, make minutes
19:18:39 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/04/06-webappsec-minutes.html bhill2
19:18:39 <Zakim> -terri
19:18:40 <Zakim> -francois
19:18:46 <bhill2> rrsasgent, set logs world
19:18:51 <Zakim> -tanvi
19:18:57 <bhill2> rrsagent, set logs public-readable
19:19:04 <bhill2> zakim list attendees
19:19:10 <bhill2> zakim, list attendees
19:19:10 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been Wendy, BHill, +1.503.712.aaaa, terri, francois, dwalp, david, walp, +1.310.597.aabb, tanvi
19:19:15 <bhill2> rrsagent, make minutes
19:19:15 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/04/06-webappsec-minutes.html bhill2
19:19:19 <bhill2> rrsagent, set logs public-visible
19:19:27 <Zakim> -BHill
19:19:28 <Zakim> SEC_WASWG()3:00PM has ended
19:19:28 <Zakim> Attendees were Wendy, BHill, +1.503.712.aaaa, terri, francois, dwalp, david, walp, +1.310.597.aabb, tanvi
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