IRC log of webappsec on 2015-04-06

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18:59:33 [bhill2]
Meeting: WebAppSec Teleconference 06-April-2015
18:59:37 [bhill2]
Chairs: bhill2, dveditz
18:59:42 [bhill2]
zakim, this is 92794
18:59:42 [Zakim]
bhill2, I see SEC_WASWG()3:00PM in the schedule but not yet started. Perhaps you mean "this will be 92794".
18:59:50 [bhill2]
zakim, this will be 92794
18:59:50 [Zakim]
ok, bhill2; I see SEC_WASWG()3:00PM scheduled to start in 1 minute
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SEC_WASWG()3:00PM has now started
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+ +1.503.712.aaaa
19:02:12 [terri]
Zakim, aaaa is me
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+terri; got it
19:02:37 [wseltzer]
zakim, ??p3 is francois
19:02:37 [Zakim]
+francois; got it
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19:03:32 [wseltzer]
zakim, Microsoft has dwalp
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+dwalp; got it
19:03:32 [bhill2]
zakim, Microsoft has david walp
19:03:33 [Zakim]
+david, walp; got it
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+ +1.310.597.aabb
19:04:03 [bhill2]
zakim, aabb is tanvi
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+tanvi; got it
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zakim, who is here
19:04:17 [Zakim]
tanvi, you need to end that query with '?'
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19:04:22 [tanvi]
zakim, who is here?
19:04:22 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Wendy, BHill, francois, terri, [Microsoft], tanvi
19:04:24 [Zakim]
[Microsoft] has david, walp
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On IRC I see dwalp, tanvi, francois, RRSAgent, Zakim, dveditz, bhill2, renoirb_, deian, mkwst, freddyb, tobie, pde, Josh_Soref, timeless, terri, wseltzer, trackbot
19:05:45 [bhill2]
TOPIC: minutes approval
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last official call:
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interim call:
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any objections to approval by unanimous consent?
19:06:35 [bhill2]
hearing no objections, minutes approved
19:06:44 [wseltzer]
scribenick: wseltzer
19:07:11 [wseltzer]
bhill2: Main item for discussion: what do we want to do on calls going forward?
19:07:30 [wseltzer]
... Rechartering, we gave the mailing list primacy as work mode
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... and want to make calls productive, given our larger set of deliverables.
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tanvi: Mailing list can be too hard to keep up with, given all our workloads
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... I like the idea of scheduling calls on specific specs, to let us do homework beforehand
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... and, in those focused calls, give a bit more time for background summaries
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... for those who didn't get it all beforehand
19:09:01 [dwalp]
dwalp 1+
19:09:11 [wseltzer]
bhill2: I'd like to hear from everyone on the call: what do you want to get out of this hour?
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dwalp: Agree with Tanvi. Calls can be good for progress.
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francois: +1 to proposed workmode
19:10:09 [wseltzer]
... Topical calls with focus to one or two specs.
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... enable people to plan their attendance.
19:10:44 [wseltzer]
bhill2: as editor, are you comfortable signing up to own a call?
19:10:56 [wseltzer]
francois: yes, that makes sense to summarize issues and address questions
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bhill2: it can be more work for an editor to prepare a call, but can schedule a dedicated chunk of time
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... hope it's an improvement for both editors and other participants
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tanvi: a challenge for note-taking; if you're running the call, you won't also be able to take good notes.
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bhill2: An editor running a call shouldn't also be tasked with scribin
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... can also work to get scribes lined up in advance
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... Should record resolutions and send them around in response to agenda.
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19:14:22 [bhill2]
wseltzer: decisions on Sapporo, F2F earlier...
19:14:51 [bhill2]
... and invite thinking about architectural issues on AppSec with the TAG and help W3C think through what else we need to be looking at
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... if we have extra time on calls I'd love to get this group's braintrust thinking about where else should we be looking
19:15:48 [wseltzer]
bhill2: I put in a request for TPAC meeting space
19:16:22 [wseltzer]
... Re: interim F2F, I expect to send mail to list about TAG F2F in Berlin, July
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... and their question whether WebAppSec was interested in meeting with them
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... watch for message on the list.
19:18:13 [wseltzer]
... TAG meeting is week before Prague IETF
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wseltzer: and Sapporo TPAC is week before Yokohama IETF
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19:18:39 [bhill2]
rrsagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate bhill2
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19:18:46 [bhill2]
rrsasgent, set logs world
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19:18:57 [bhill2]
rrsagent, set logs public-readable
19:19:04 [bhill2]
zakim list attendees
19:19:10 [bhill2]
zakim, list attendees
19:19:10 [Zakim]
As of this point the attendees have been Wendy, BHill, +1.503.712.aaaa, terri, francois, dwalp, david, walp, +1.310.597.aabb, tanvi
19:19:15 [bhill2]
rrsagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate bhill2
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rrsagent, set logs public-visible
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SEC_WASWG()3:00PM has ended
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Attendees were Wendy, BHill, +1.503.712.aaaa, terri, francois, dwalp, david, walp, +1.310.597.aabb, tanvi
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