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15:50:39 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be TRACK
15:50:39 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see T&S_Track(dnt)12:00PM scheduled to start in 10 minutes
15:50:40 <trackbot> Meeting: Tracking Protection Working Group Teleconference
15:50:40 <trackbot> Date: 01 April 2015
15:54:56 <Zakim> T&S_Track(dnt)12:00PM has now started
15:55:03 <Zakim> +npdoty
15:56:51 <Zakim> +Wendy
15:57:53 <wseltzer> zakim, who is on the phone?
15:57:53 <Zakim> On the phone I see npdoty, Wendy
15:58:55 <Zakim> +Carl_Cargill
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16:00:24 <Zakim> +hefferjr
16:00:46 <Zakim> +[Apple]
16:00:55 <dsinger> zakim, [apple] has dsinger
16:00:56 <Zakim> +dsinger; got it
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16:01:29 <npdoty> Zakim, who is making noise?
16:01:39 <Zakim> npdoty, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Wendy (31%), Carl_Cargill (42%), [Apple] (5%)
16:02:35 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
16:02:40 <Zakim> +[FTC]
16:02:48 <moneill2> zakim, [IPCaller] is me
16:02:48 <Zakim> +moneill2; got it
16:03:12 <Zakim> +??P39
16:03:48 <npdoty> Zakim, ??p39 is schunter
16:03:48 <Zakim> +schunter; got it
16:03:56 <Carl_cargill> Carl_cargill has joined #dnt
16:04:04 <Zakim> +Chris_Pedigo
16:04:38 <npdoty> regrets+ kulick, justin
16:04:42 <npdoty> chair: Carl_cargill
16:04:45 <npdoty> scribenick: npdoty
16:05:01 <npdoty> Carl_cargill: hope to have a short call today, to transition TPE to Candidate Recommendation
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16:05:22 <npdoty> ... sent an email last week with Roy's diff about the changes
16:05:32 <npdoty> ... asked for comments about any substantial changes
16:05:52 <dsinger> can you lay out what the timing for TCS is?
16:06:00 <npdoty> ... didn't hear significant or substantial comment on that thread
16:06:07 <dsinger> q+
16:06:23 <npdoty> ... trying to close down TPE now, seems no one found substantial change
16:06:30 <npdoty> ack dsinger
16:06:49 <npdoty> dsinger: concerned about going to CR before we've gone to LC on TCS
16:06:50 <npdoty> q+
16:07:32 <npdoty> dsinger: can put TPE to one side for a bit, in case important comments come in on LC for Compliance
16:07:33 <wseltzer> q+
16:07:41 <wseltzer> ack npdoty
16:07:44 <schunter> q+
16:08:42 <npdoty> ack me
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16:09:06 <npdoty> npdoty: fine either way. we are getting close to Last Call on Compliance
16:09:11 <dsinger> for me, it’s only a gentle question, am willing to follow the group, as long as we’ve thought about it
16:09:37 <wseltzer> ack schunter
16:09:39 <wseltzer> q-
16:10:04 <dsinger> I am totally fine with taking the resolution to proceed to CR with LC on TCS
16:10:13 <npdoty> ... for at least some questions/changes in Compliance, wouldn't require changes back to TPE, because the list of qualifiers is defined in Compliance
16:10:14 <moneill2> +1
16:10:41 <schunter> No objection against the content of the TPE - ready for CR
16:10:50 <wseltzer> Cargill: TPE is ready to move to CR; we are delaying to ensure that the two are aligned when TCS goes to LC
16:11:03 <schunter> For alighment, we will wait with the formal transition some weeks until the date we push the TCS into LC.
16:11:07 <npdoty> Carl: would like to minute that the TPE is ready to move to Candidate Recommendation, but delay for now so that in alignment with the TCS, because it's easier to make any changes that way if necessary
16:11:08 <wseltzer> ... right now, the document is ready to move to CR
16:11:19 <npdoty> ... any objections?
16:11:20 <dsinger> +1
16:11:33 <npdoty> not hearing any
16:11:33 <wseltzer> [no objections]
16:12:04 <npdoty> dsinger: agreeing on moving TPE to CR with the Compliance document moving to Last Call
16:12:05 <wseltzer> RESOLVED: the TPE will move to CR when TCS goes to last call
16:12:38 <npdoty> q+
16:14:07 <wseltzer> ack npdoty
16:14:09 <npdoty> schunter: questions on "tracking data"
16:14:09 <npdoty> dsinger: agree with fielding that a straightforward approach is to remove reliance on the term at all
16:14:13 <wseltzer> npdoty: a couple reminders
16:14:36 <wseltzer> ... Justin sent a list of issues we think we can close. Please review.
16:14:39 <npdoty> http://www.w3.org/TR/tracking-compliance/
16:14:52 <dsinger> alternatively, simply define tracking data as data that results from and shows evidence of tracking.
16:14:52 <wseltzer> schunter: I'd just close them
16:15:19 <npdoty> and a Working Draft publication from yesterday, as an fyi: http://www.w3.org/TR/2015/WD-tracking-compliance-20150331/
16:15:33 <wseltzer> Carl_cargill: if we don't get any requests for discussion on Justin's list, we'll call it closed
16:15:56 <npdoty> Carl_cargill: if any objections or changes to Justin's email about issue closing list, let us know; otherwise we'll close those next week.
16:16:21 <npdoty> chris_pedigo: question on process, after we finish issues with Compliance
16:16:39 <wseltzer> npdoty: To clarify, next step for TCS is Last Call
16:16:45 <wseltzer> ... asking for public comments on Compliance
16:16:57 <wseltzer> ... and we've agreed simultaneoulsy to move to CR on TPE
16:17:03 <wseltzer> ... CR is a call for implementations
16:17:12 <wseltzer> ... saying, this doc is stable enough for implementations
16:17:24 <wseltzer> ... on TCS, we're asking for wide review, and plan to process those comments
16:17:28 <wseltzer> ... as we have for TPE
16:17:38 <wseltzer> Chris_Pedigo: what's the timeline for LC?
16:17:56 <wseltzer> npdoty: process requires 2 weeks, for TCS, we did 2 months
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16:18:18 <wseltzer> Carl_cargill: Next week is Justin's list of issues on TCS
16:18:28 <wseltzer> ... and see what else we have to do to get TCS to LC
16:18:34 <moneill2> bye
16:18:38 <Zakim> -Chris_Pedigo
16:18:39 <wseltzer> ... See you next week.
16:18:42 <Zakim> -[FTC]
16:18:46 <Zakim> -npdoty
16:18:53 <Zakim> -schunter
16:18:54 <Zakim> -Carl_Cargill
16:18:55 <Zakim> -Wendy
16:18:56 <Zakim> -moneill2
16:18:56 <Zakim> -[Apple]
16:18:57 <Zakim> -hefferjr
16:18:58 <Zakim> T&S_Track(dnt)12:00PM has ended
16:18:59 <Zakim> Attendees were npdoty, Wendy, Carl_Cargill, hefferjr, dsinger, [FTC], moneill2, schunter, Chris_Pedigo
16:19:02 <npdoty> trackbot, end meeting
16:19:02 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
16:19:02 <Zakim> sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is
16:19:10 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
16:19:10 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/04/01-dnt-minutes.html trackbot
16:19:11 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
16:19:11 <RRSAgent> I see no action items