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<scribe> Scribe: Jan
JS: AC thanks for your comments
on charter
... There were comments from others re: lack of progress
... But actually we have been making progress
... One good thing coming out of his is that the exist criteria
might be reopened
... We would re-publish new CR
... Need new exit criteria for that
... Then comes PR (Proposed Rec) stage
... I think we are pretty close
... We need exit criteria as bulletproof as possible
JT: I received word from someone from a member org that they wanted to join AUWG
JR: Great!
JT: As far as we know, hwhat has been met so far...
JS: A bit more complicated - we
need two tests of each meeting SC
... I'm going back over this
http://www.w3.org/TR/ATAG20/#exit
(existing version)
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2015JanMar/0035.html
(proposed version)
JR: Main change... Note 3: Thirteen ATAG 2.0 success criteria are dependent on WCAG 2.0 for their levels (i.e. A.1.1.1 Web-Based Accessible (WCAG), B.1.1.1 Content Auto-Generation After Authoring Sessions (WCAG), etc.). These will be tested at WCAG 2.0 Level A.
JS: Don't format as notes
JR: I will change
... I can also clarify that "features" referes to SCs
<alastairc> How about: there must be at least two independent implementations of features that meet each success crtiera.
JR: I like that
JT: Make adjustments in first and second sentence?
AC: Maybe don't need to
... Idea of starting with WCAG and working the other way
... I'd be iok with 50% at Level A
JS: Where applicable at Level A
AC: Difficulty of going to 100%
rules that out
... But 1 or 2 things at each level doesn't seem serious
implmentation
JT: Back to user reqs
... Litmus test at the end, can this tool be used by someone
needing alternative access
... And for B, can someone create accessible
output...reasonably
JR: But doesn't that get into personas...which has its own multiplication
AC: Standard will still need to
fully meet
... P Here we are talking about "Can it be implemented by a
tool?"
... Gap would be if a tool could not meet the standard
JS: One of things I said is that
we aren't trying to prove WCAG
... So I think we want to be clear about that
JT: Given our time frame
... WCAG has been accepted etc
... Do we want to get too complex?
JR: I'm still leaning to 50%+1 of WCAG 2.0 Level A
JS: These must demonstrate at least 50% of the applicable success criteria of WCAG
JR: At level A?
JT: We don't want a trigger that they aren't strong enough
AC: Looking at the (WCAG ) ones in ATAG 2 Part B
JR: I'll do a reword of the exit criteria + 13 sentences to explain how they would apply to each SC
<jeanne> ATAG Scorecard -> https://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/CR20/eval/scorecard
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