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14:55:48 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 63342
14:55:48 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see HTML_WG()11:00AM scheduled to start in 5 minutes
14:55:49 <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Media Task Force Teleconference
14:55:50 <trackbot> Date: 24 March 2015
14:56:12 <paulc> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2015Mar/0058.html
14:56:18 <paulc> zakim, what is the code?
14:56:18 <Zakim> the conference code is 63342 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), paulc
14:57:40 <Zakim> HTML_WG()11:00AM has now started
14:57:47 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
14:58:02 <paulc> zakim, [Microsoft] is me
14:58:02 <Zakim> +paulc; got it
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15:02:39 <Zakim> +pal
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15:04:02 <paulc> scribenick: paulc
15:04:15 <Zakim> + +1.925.984.aabb
15:04:19 <paulc> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2015Mar/0058.html
15:04:39 <paulc> zakim, aabb is joesteele
15:04:39 <Zakim> +joesteele; got it
15:04:59 <paulc> zakim, aaaa is ddorwin
15:04:59 <Zakim> +ddorwin; got it
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15:05:13 <paulc> zakim, who is on the phone?
15:05:13 <Zakim> On the phone I see paulc, markw, pal, ddorwin, joesteele
15:06:02 <paulc> Regrets from Jerry Smith
15:06:06 <paulc> Topic: EME and MSE heartbeat publications
15:07:21 <paulc> paulc: There is a logjam in the EME publications.  The problem is the registries getting published.
15:07:44 <paulc> David: The shortest route would be to point to the Editors draft of the registries and delete the TR versions.
15:08:01 <paulc> Paulc:  I will make the shortest route suggestion.
15:08:23 <paulc> paulc: I will also suggest that the EME registry problems should not block the MSE publication.
15:08:40 <paulc> Topic: F2F meeting
15:09:10 <paulc> paulc: So far only 4 people have registered as attending and pal has offered to attend partially by phone.
15:09:23 <paulc> pal: I have a conflict with NAB
15:09:38 <paulc> paulc: David, Jerry and others have not registered yet.
15:09:54 <paulc> paulc: I will send out a reminder today - closure is on April 2.
15:10:12 <paulc> paulc: Organization of the EME F2F discussions.
15:10:41 <paulc> paulc: I would like to figure out how to get someone on point for each of the 15+ open issues rather than starting from a clean slate at the meeting.
15:11:10 <paulc> paulc: How can we get poeple to sign up for leading the discussion on each issues?
15:11:33 <paulc> joesteele: Assigning ACTIONs seems to work
15:11:36 <Zakim> + +1.303.661.aacc
15:11:46 <BobLund> zakim, aacc is me
15:11:46 <Zakim> +BobLund; got it
15:11:53 <paulc> David: Let's use the wiki and indicate which items are interesting to which people
15:12:24 <paulc> Wiki for F2F: https://www.w3.org/wiki/HTML/wg/2015-04-Agenda
15:13:27 <paulc> paulc: Does anyone object to using the wiki?
15:13:34 <paulc> paulc: I hear silence.
15:14:05 <paulc> paulc: I will organize the potential topics to include the open issues and people can sign up for the ones they think need discussion.
15:15:32 <paulc> paulc: Do we need to consider both the old list of bugs and the GitHub issues?
15:15:40 <paulc> davidd: Yes
15:16:15 <paulc> ACTION: paulc to organize potential F2F topics part of wiki and sent out notice asking for input from TF
15:16:15 <trackbot> Created ACTION-80 - Organize potential f2f topics part of wiki and sent out notice asking for input from tf [on Paul Cotton - due 2015-03-31].
15:16:43 <Zakim> +ddorwin.a
15:16:47 <Zakim> -ddorwin
15:17:24 <paulc> Topic: Issue #39 - MediaKeyStatusMap: Replace maplike with explicit methods
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15:17:41 <paulc> https://github.com/w3c/encrypted-media/issues/39
15:17:47 <paulc> ACTIION-78?
15:17:59 <paulc> ACTION-78?
15:17:59 <trackbot> ACTION-78 -- Mark Watson to Look into @@iterators for issue 39 -- due 2015-03-24 -- OPEN
15:17:59 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/media/track/actions/78
15:19:09 <paulc> zakim, who is making noise?
15:19:20 <Zakim> paulc, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: paulc (65%), ddorwin.a (45%)
15:19:54 <paulc> David: We need to decide on an order or decide that during implementation.
15:20:12 <paulc> Mark: Boris implied there might be a favorite order picked.
15:20:21 <paulc> s/Mark/David/
15:20:50 <paulc> David: We still need to define whether the order changes when you are iterating.
15:21:15 <paulc> Mark: If you add a new item you need to know where it will appear.
15:21:49 <paulc> Mark: It is fine for me if you modify the iteration that it is implementation-defined what happens.
15:22:07 <paulc> close ACTIOIN-78
15:22:17 <paulc> close action-78
15:22:17 <trackbot> Closed action-78.
15:22:35 <paulc> Mark: I will add the above ideas to the bug.
15:22:58 <paulc> paulc: When Mark does that do we have enough for an implementation.
15:23:03 <paulc> David: Yes
15:23:24 <paulc> Topic: Issue #40 - replace "Distinctive Identifier" with "persistent Distinctive Identifier" where "use distinctive identifier" is false
15:23:37 <paulc> https://github.com/w3c/encrypted-media/issues/40
15:23:49 <paulc> paulc: How do we get Henri's attention for this issues.
15:24:07 <paulc> ACTION: paulc to contact Henri about Issue 40
15:24:07 <trackbot> Created ACTION-81 - Contact henri about issue 40 [on Paul Cotton - due 2015-03-31].
15:24:30 <paulc> Topic: Bug 26776 - Diagnosing and resolving CDM errors needs a numeric systemCode (deleted with MediaKeyError)
15:24:43 <paulc> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=26776
15:24:51 <paulc> ACTION-79?
15:24:51 <trackbot> ACTION-79 -- Jerry Smith to Draft a proposal for returning errors as per bug 26776 -- due 2015-03-24 -- OPEN
15:24:51 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/media/track/actions/79
15:24:59 <paulc> action-79 is due next week
15:25:24 <paulc> action-79 due next week
15:25:24 <trackbot> Set action-79 Draft a proposal for returning errors as per bug 26776 due date to 2015-03-30.
15:25:47 <paulc> paulc: Jerry sent his regrets today and said he would have ACTION-79 done next week.
15:26:07 <paulc> Topic: Issue #9 - Remove note that MediaKeySession events may not be fired until the MediaKeys object is associated with a media element
15:26:23 <paulc> paulc: Mark agreed to update issue at the last meeting.
15:26:42 <paulc> https://github.com/w3c/encrypted-media/issues/9
15:27:22 <paulc> Mark: I am talking to Apple staff and we think David's suggestion should be followed
15:27:42 <paulc> Mark: I am working on the internal discussion and then I will update the bug
15:28:34 <markw> Mark: Most likely outcome is to support David's suggestion that createSession will fail if the MediaKeys is not attached to a media element for implementations which require that attachment in order to send messages
15:28:45 <paulc> Topic: Other current issues
15:28:58 <markw> Mark: this allows an application to detect whether non-attached message exchange is supported
15:28:58 <paulc> paulc: Any other issues others want to discuss?
15:29:55 <paulc> David: None come to mind.
15:30:07 <paulc> Topic: F2F meeting
15:30:20 <paulc> Mark: When will we start on Wed Apr 15?
15:30:34 <paulc> paulc: Let's start at 9:30 to permit Mark to fly in that morning.
15:30:41 <paulc> Joe: Can we get a tour?
15:30:58 <paulc> Paulc: I will look into a visit to the MSFT museum.
15:31:27 <paulc> rrsagent, generate the minutes
15:31:27 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/03/24-html-media-minutes.html paulc
15:31:38 <paulc> Topic: Adjournment
15:31:41 <Zakim> -joesteele
15:31:42 <Zakim> -ddorwin.a
15:31:44 <Zakim> -markw
15:31:45 <Zakim> -pal
15:31:47 <Zakim> -BobLund
15:31:47 <paulc> We adjourned at :31 mins after the hour.
15:31:55 <paulc> rrsagent, generate the minutes
15:31:55 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/03/24-html-media-minutes.html paulc
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15:47:07 <Zakim> HTML_WG()11:00AM has ended
15:47:07 <Zakim> Attendees were paulc, markw, pal, +1.253.332.aaaa, +1.925.984.aabb, joesteele, ddorwin, +1.303.661.aacc, BobLund
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