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16:01:48 <kaz> Present: Paul, Greg, Joel, Kaz, Aing, So, Adam
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16:03:02 <kaz> Present: Paul, Greg, Joel, Kaz, Aing, So, Adam, Craig, Vadim
16:03:12 <ted> Present+ Ted
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16:03:35 <kaz> Present: Paul, Greg, Joel, Kaz, Qing, So, Adam, Craig, Vadim, Ted
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16:03:52 <kaz> Present: Paul, Greg, Joel, Kaz, Qing, So, Adam, Craig, Vadim, Ted, Kevin
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16:05:16 <kaz> paul: having multiple slots for participants from various areas
16:05:30 <kaz> ... Kevin joins
16:05:52 <kaz> ... can you introduce yourself?
16:06:04 <kaz> kevin: JLR
16:06:36 <kaz> Present: Paul, Greg, Joel, Kaz, Qing, So, Adam, Craig, Vadim, Ted, Kevin, Ryan
16:07:02 <kaz> paul: tx
16:07:15 <kaz> ... anybody just on the phone?
16:07:44 <kaz> (paul lists the names of attendees)
16:08:14 <kaz> (somebody is joinin)
16:08:15 <kaz> s/joinin/joining/
16:08:27 <kaz> Present: Paul, Greg, Joel, Kaz, Qing, So, Adam, Craig, Vadim, Ted, Kevin, Ryan, Dave
16:08:54 <kaz> paul: anybody has questions on the Charter?
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16:09:10 <kaz> -> http://www.w3.org/2014/automotive/charter Charter
16:09:29 <kaz> paul: the timeline is generating specs by Q3 2016
16:10:13 <kaz> paul: any questions on the existing specs?
16:10:17 <kaz> (no questions)
16:10:35 <kaz> paul: will send out general meeting schedule
16:10:55 <kaz> ... would suggest we have calls to cover any timezones
16:11:56 <kaz> paul: membership update?
16:11:57 <ted> kaz: some of the BG members are starting to join the WG, JLR joined for example.  we have some other prospects
16:12:18 <kaz> paul: contributions for use cases?
16:12:31 <kaz> ... Kevron is one of the editors
16:12:42 <kaz> ... anyone interested?
16:12:55 <kaz> qing: as I mentioned in my email, interested in use cases
16:13:06 <kaz> paul: anybody interested in the spec?
16:13:40 <kaz> Present: Paul, Greg, Joel, Kaz, Qing, So, Adam, Craig, Vadim, Ted, Kevin, Ryan, Dave, Dapeng, Adam_Crofts
16:14:13 <kaz> paul: the f2f will be held on April 23-24 collocated with Genivi meeting
16:14:20 <kaz> ... also Kaz mentioned there will be TPAC 2015 in October
16:14:48 <kaz> [ Oct. 26-30 in Sapporo ]
16:15:15 <kaz> paul: what would you discuss?
16:15:34 <kaz> vadim: how/when are we holding the f2f meetings?
16:15:52 <kaz> paul: basically we should do very soon
16:16:00 <kaz> ... adam?
16:16:25 <kaz> adam: generating initial agenda, etc.
16:16:31 <kaz> ... you can suggest topics
16:16:49 <kaz> paul: media tuner, etc.
16:17:10 <kaz> ... some work against Tizen
16:17:20 <kaz> ... including FM tuner
16:17:28 <kaz> ... Genivi has their use cases
16:18:30 <kaz> ... second topic might be use cases in addition to the existing specs
16:19:15 <kaz> vadim: can prepare small presentations
16:19:25 <kaz> paul: anybody from Alibaba will join the f2f?
16:19:42 <kaz> qing: need discussion
16:19:56 <kaz> paul: use case discussion at f2f would be great
16:20:05 <kaz> qing: ok
16:20:36 <kaz> paul: kevin?
16:20:53 <kaz> kevin: happy to discuss any kind of content
16:21:13 <kaz> q+
16:21:22 <kaz> paul: discussion on security would be nice
16:22:04 <kaz> kevin: security is a big area
16:22:24 <kaz> ... authorization model in some form
16:22:49 <kaz> vadim: the thing in security is secondary environment
16:23:15 <kaz> ... security has to be in combination with underlying mechanism
16:23:19 <kaz> s/be/be handled/
16:23:35 <kaz> ... we can take several OSs
16:23:47 <kaz> ... to see actual approaches
16:24:38 <kaz> ... I can speak about Android, etc.
16:24:57 <kaz> paul: Kevron might be able to talk about Tizen
16:25:04 <kaz> adam: yes
16:25:49 <kaz> vadim: know somebody from Tizen locally
16:25:56 <kaz> ... we can try to meet them
16:26:13 <kaz> ... what about QNX?
16:26:22 <kaz> paul: not has been involved much so far
16:26:27 <kaz> ... any update?
16:26:29 <kaz> ted: no
16:27:04 <kaz> paul: Vadim, if you can take Android, that would be great
16:27:48 <kaz> vadim: would say I can work with Adam locally here in California
16:28:05 <kaz> ... would go back to my email and find resources
16:28:20 <kaz> paul: I'll ping you guys
16:28:24 <kaz> q?
16:28:55 <kaz> ted: @@@
16:29:04 <kaz> paul: that was my ideas on two topics
16:29:16 <kaz> ... Craig, Ryan?
16:29:29 <kaz> craig: somebody from our team will be there
16:29:33 <kaz> ryan: still asking
16:29:44 <ted> s/@@@/please include me in the security conversation/
16:30:22 <kaz> adam: we only have one day
16:30:40 <kaz> ... we should clarify if we want to have another f2f
16:30:57 <ted> q+
16:31:17 <kaz> paul: will hold a strawman poll
16:31:36 <kaz> adam: we should cover what is the overlap between the BG and the WG
16:31:41 <kaz> ... good topic to cover
16:31:55 <kaz> paul: so vang?
16:32:14 <kaz> so: probably not this time, but can join TPAC in Sapporo
16:32:28 <kaz> ... BG topic is very important
16:32:58 <kaz> paul: will you ping you
16:33:10 <kaz> ... will send an email
16:34:19 <ted> kaz: we had a great presentation on prototype implementation from JLR previously
16:34:36 <ted> paul: it would be great if kevron could attend since their implementation is pretty far along
16:34:50 <ted> kaz: KDDI might be able to do one
16:35:32 <ted> ted: reminder that kevron will be leading a tour through the data spec on thursday
16:35:40 <ted> q-
16:35:43 <kaz> q?
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16:36:08 <ted> [4pm PDT]
16:36:14 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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16:36:30 <kaz> paul: meeting on Thursday
16:37:29 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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16:37:33 <kaz> [ adjourned ]
16:37:35 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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16:37:50 <kaz> Meeting: Automotive WG
16:37:56 <kaz> Chair: Paul
16:38:16 <kaz> i/we had a great/scribenick: ted/
16:38:36 <kaz> i/meeting on Thursday/scribenick: kaz/
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