16:48:09 RRSAgent has joined #au 16:48:09 logging to http://www.w3.org/2015/03/23-au-irc 16:48:16 Zakim, this will be AUWG 16:48:16 ok, Jan; I see WAI_AUWG()1:00PM scheduled to start in 12 minutes 16:48:22 Meeting: WAI AU 16:48:39 Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2015JanMar/0029.html 16:48:59 Chair: Jutta Treviranus 16:59:02 WAI_AUWG()1:00PM has now started 16:59:09 +Jeanne 16:59:17 jeanne has joined #au 17:00:05 +TomB 17:00:39 +[IPcaller] 17:00:59 +[IPcaller.a] 17:00:59 zakim, [IPcaller] is really Jan 17:01:00 +Jan; got it 17:01:06 zakim, [IPcaller.a] is really Jutta 17:01:07 +Jutta; got it 17:01:31 tbabinszki has joined #au 17:01:36 Scribe: Jan 17:04:55 Topic: 1. Update on ATAG WG charter 17:05:32 JS: wai charters were offically sent out a few weeks ago 17:05:43 JS: Some feedback coming back 17:05:58 JS: Some orgs not aware of how far along we are 17:06:35 JS: So we have been working hard to let people know how close ATAG is 17:06:52 JS: Judy sent out an informative note 17:07:29 JS: We really encourage members to talk to their AC reps to encourage them to approve ATAG going forward 17:08:05 JT: Where did feedback come from? 17:08:38 JS: When we send out charters, we invite comment... we need 5% (I think) approval from the members 17:12:15 Topic: Candidate Recommendation (CR) process update 17:12:31 JS: Last week I had an action to talk to Judy re: our Exit Criteria 17:12:54 JS: Reviewing our more complex criteria 17:13:00 JS: Our criteria 17:13:38 1. [Tool by tool] Two independent [1] authoring tools must conform to ATAG 2.0 level AA (which includes level A). 17:13:39 2. [Tool by category] At least one authoring tool from each of the following authoring tool categories must conform to ATAG 2.0 Level A (i.e. will conform to all applicable Level A success criteria.): 17:13:41 WYSIWYG web page editing tools 17:13:42 Content management tools 17:13:44 Development tool for applet, scripts, or applications 17:13:45 Non-text media (e.g. video, audio, images) editing tools 17:13:47 Social media content authoring tools (e.g. blogs, wikis, social networks) 17:13:48 3. [Success criterion by success criterion] Each ATAG 2.0 success criterion must be implemented [2] by two independent authoring tools. For the thirteen ATAG 2.0 success criteria that are dependent on WCAG 2.0 [3] for their levels, each ATAG 2.0 success criterion must be implemented for two WCAG 2.0 success criteria at each level: A, AA, and AAA. These six WCAG 2.0 success criteria are a... 17:13:50 ...sampling of the requirements of WCAG (e.g. text alternatives for non-text content, keyboard accessibility, sufficient contrast). 17:13:56 JS: We are looking at simplifying this 17:14:47 JS: Some things have loosened up re: exit criteria for guidelines 17:15:55 JS: Plan (if you agree) would be to finish up enough testing to ensure we had implementations of every success criteria 17:16:01 JS: With 2 examples 17:16:19 JS: Then we re-publish CR with new exit criteria 17:16:32 JS: We wait 3 weeks for comments on those criteria 17:16:48 JS: Then we go to PR 17:17:08 JS: I hope the group approves this 17:17:14 JR: Sounds good to me 17:17:23 JT: Yes 17:17:28 JT: How close are we 17:17:46 https://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/CR20/eval/scorecard 17:19:09 JR: We are very close...95% of SCs met by 2 or more,,,and mostly more 17:19:38 JR: Main gaps: transformations, checking, templates 17:20:03 JS: My focus in the next couple weeks is to resplove issues between testers 17:20:31 JS: "Canonical" column is for the check that resolves differences between testers 17:21:24 JS: I have started process of anonymizing the data 17:22:08 JS: And hopefully we can contact tools to see if they want themselves identified 17:22:37 JT: B.2.5.2... 17:23:39 JT: We can look at OER tools that will be integrating means of adding metadata 17:24:03 JT: I will put JR in touch with them 17:24:25 JT: Working group approval for this plan? 17:24:46 JT: Objections? 17:24:55 TB: No objections 17:25:11 JS: I will also be reaching out Alastair 17:25:30 JS: Maybe a WBS survey 17:26:37 Resolution: The four people on the call (Jutta, Jan, Tom, Jeanne) agreed with the plan to simplify the Exit Criteria 9to 2 implmentations for each SC) and re-publishing. 17:27:25 s/The four people on the call (Jutta, Jan, Tom, Jeanne) / ATAG WG 17:27:32 Topic: Other implementation progress? 17:28:11 JS, JR: We spoke to a number of groups at CSUN 17:29:23 JS: What we will need the votes for is a new set of Exit Criteria for April 6 17:30:22 JS: So let's reach out to people who weren't on this call 17:31:11 JT: Anything else? 17:31:22 JS: We are working on the WAI2020 framework.... 17:31:31 JS: There were presentations at CSUN 17:32:22 JS: THere is a concensus developing that we could write extensions to WCAG on vertical topics (e.g. Cognitive, Low vision, voice input) or industry (mobile, IofT) 17:33:17 JT: Would also be good to add note that WCAG can be met by the system rather than just the page. 17:33:32 JS: Can you draft something 17:34:32 JR: April 6 is Easter Monday 17:34:53 JR: Maybe we can at least discuss a draft of Exit Criteria on Mar 30 17:34:56 JT: OK 17:35:06 JT: Then we can have a WBS ballot after that 17:35:25 JT: Thanks - next meeting - Mar 30 17:35:56 -Jan 17:35:57 -TomB 17:35:57 -Jutta 17:36:09 +Tim_Boland 17:37:09 RRSAgent, make minutes 17:37:09 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/03/23-au-minutes.html Jan 17:37:31 RRSAgent, set logs public 17:37:43 Zakim, bye 17:37:43 leaving. As of this point the attendees were Jeanne, TomB, Jan, Jutta, Tim_Boland 17:37:43 Zakim has left #au 17:37:57 RRSAgent, bye 17:37:57 I see no action items