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14:38:43 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be WAI_WCAG
14:38:43 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see WAI_WCAG()11:00AM scheduled to start in 22 minutes
14:38:44 <trackbot> Meeting: Web Content Accessibility Guidelines Working Group Teleconference
14:38:44 <trackbot> Date: 17 March 2015
14:39:08 <Kenny> zakim, agenda?
14:39:08 <Zakim> I see 2 items remaining on the agenda:
14:39:09 <Zakim> 2. TF updates from CSUN [from Joshue108]
14:39:09 <Zakim> 3. TPAC 2015 [from AWK]
14:39:47 <Kenny> zakim, clean agenda
14:39:47 <Zakim> I don't understand 'clean agenda', Kenny
14:40:43 <yatil> Kenny, it is “zakim, clear agenda”
14:41:03 <Kenny> zakim, clear agenda
14:41:03 <Zakim> agenda cleared
14:41:39 <Kenny> agenda+ Review of Issues https://github.com/w3c/wcag/issues
14:41:54 <Kenny> agenda+ Monitoring of WAI-IG list
14:42:11 <Kenny> agenda+ Discussion of timeline and goals for next update of supporting documents
14:42:30 <Kenny> agenda+ Reminder about outstanding actions
14:43:36 <Kenny> Chair: Ad hoc
14:56:39 <Zakim> WAI_WCAG()11:00AM has now started
14:56:46 <Zakim> +AWK
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14:57:27 <AWK> Zakim, agenda?
14:57:27 <Zakim> I see 4 items remaining on the agenda:
14:57:28 <Zakim> 1. Review of Issues https://github.com/w3c/wcag/issues [from Kenny]
14:57:28 <Zakim> 2. Monitoring of WAI-IG list [from Kenny]
14:57:28 <Zakim> 3. Discussion of timeline and goals for next update of supporting documents [from Kenny]
14:57:28 <Zakim> 4. Reminder about outstanding actions [from Kenny]
14:57:36 <AWK> ZAkim, who is on the phone?
14:57:36 <Zakim> On the phone I see AWK
14:58:03 <AWK> agenda+ TPAC 2015.  November 1-6, 2015 in Yokohama, Japan
14:58:21 <AWK> agenda+ Page Structure Tutorial: http://w3c.github.io/wai-tutorials/page-structure/
14:58:34 <AWK> Zakim, what meeting is this?
14:58:34 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, AWK.
15:02:17 <AWK> ZAkim, who is on the phone?
15:02:17 <Zakim> On the phone I see AWK
15:02:26 <Zakim> +Kathy_Wahlbin
15:02:28 <Zakim> +David_MacDonald
15:03:19 <Kathy> Kathy has joined #wai-wcag
15:04:01 <yatil> zakim, call EricE-Skype
15:04:01 <Zakim> ok, yatil; the call is being made
15:04:03 <Zakim> +EricE
15:04:13 <Zakim> +jon_avila
15:04:15 <Zakim> -jon_avila
15:04:17 <yatil> zakim, nick yatil is EricE
15:04:17 <Zakim> ok, yatil, I now associate you with EricE
15:04:20 <yatil> zakim, mute me
15:04:20 <Zakim> EricE should now be muted
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15:05:38 <Zakim> +jon_avila
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15:07:06 <AWK> Zakim, who is on the phone?
15:07:06 <Zakim> On the phone I see AWK, Kathy_Wahlbin, David_MacDonald, EricE (muted), jon_avila
15:07:34 <Zakim> +Kenny
15:08:12 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
15:08:22 <Loretta> zakim, IPcaller is Loretta
15:08:23 <Zakim> +Loretta; got it
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15:08:55 <Zakim> +Marc_Johlic
15:09:46 <AWK> regrets+ Mike _Elledge
15:10:11 <AWK> s/Mike _Elledge/Mike_Elledge
15:10:17 <AWK> Regrets+ Joshue
15:11:00 <Kathy> scribe: Kathy
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15:11:37 <AWK> Zakim, take up item 1
15:11:37 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Review of Issues https://github.com/w3c/wcag/issues" taken up [from Kenny]
15:11:43 <Kathy> TOPIC: Review of Issues https://github.com/w3c/wcag/issues
15:11:55 <Kathy> AWK: look at Github issues outstanding
15:12:20 <Kathy> AWK: Small number of issues
15:12:24 <AWK> AWK: Have been using https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Comments_Needing_Responses
15:12:34 <AWK> AWK: don't need to anymore
15:12:55 <Kathy> AWK: we are not putting comments in the old tracker... only in Github
15:13:50 <Kathy> AWK: Github allows assignment of people, will need a Github account.  If you don't have one, sign up
15:14:20 <Kathy> AWK: take a bit of time to go through these items
15:14:25 <Zakim> +??P52
15:14:52 <Kathy> AWK: Procedure looks wrong (and doesn't match notes above)  #81
15:15:11 <Kathy> https://github.com/w3c/wcag/issues/81
15:15:42 <Kathy> AWK: Mark is right, but something went wrong in with the pull request
15:15:53 <MichaelC> ack me
15:16:15 <AWK> Original git pull: https://github.com/w3c/wcag/compare/master...awkawk:AWK-WCAG-Edits
15:16:31 <AWK> AWK: Not sure why the change wasn't in the final document
15:16:38 <Kathy> AWK: change was not in the final request
15:17:10 <Kathy> AWK: something we need to figure out
15:17:31 <Kathy> AWK: Clarify the meaning of "is also available" in step #3 of F3 test  #80
15:17:40 <Kathy> https://github.com/w3c/wcag/issues/80
15:17:48 <Kathy> AWK: anyone want to look into this one?
15:17:59 <Kathy> Jon: I will look at it
15:18:23 <Kathy> AWK: I will assign in Github
15:19:45 <Kathy> AWK: [Low Viz] WCAG Issues for Low Vision users #78 - https://github.com/w3c/wcag/issues/78
15:19:58 <Kathy> AWK: this is a bigger issue - so we will pass on this for now
15:20:03 <David> https://help.github.com/articles/assigning-issues-and-pull-requests-to-other-github-users/
15:20:14 <Kathy> AWK: [Comment] Meaning of "Alternate version" is not clear (G136) #73
15:20:27 <Kathy> AWK: look at conforming alternative versions
15:20:35 <Kathy> https://github.com/w3c/wcag/issues/73
15:20:47 <Kathy> AWK: who would like to look at this
15:21:08 <Kathy> David: I agree with the recommendations
15:21:34 <Kathy> AWK:  took a quick look and we need to think about any negative impacts
15:21:40 <Kathy> David:  I will look at it
15:22:22 <Kathy> AWK:  Can add comment and then let us know when it is ready
15:22:59 <Kathy> David:  response will be in the comment section
15:23:08 <Kathy> AWK: I get a email with each comment
15:23:22 <Kathy> David: should we sent email to the group
15:23:24 <Kathy> AWK: yes
15:23:30 <Zakim> +James_Nurthen
15:23:55 <Kathy> AWK:  editors need to pay attention to the comments.  In the comment, add information that it is ready
15:24:13 <Kathy> David:  maybe ***READY FOR REVIEW ***
15:24:32 <Kathy> David: then we can search for these items
15:24:46 <Kathy> AWK: Maybe... i don't knwo
15:25:11 <Kathy> AWK: what would you all prefer?
15:25:39 <Kathy> AWK: separate email or add info into the comment
15:25:53 <Kathy> James: would this not be a pull request
15:26:04 <Kathy> AWK: sometimes there is no pull request or change that is defined
15:26:29 <Kathy> AWK: ideally we will get there, but now not everyone in the group can do this
15:26:50 <Kathy> James: best to not change the title
15:27:00 <Kathy> AWK: this would just be within the body of the comment
15:27:07 <Kathy> James: how going to query them
15:27:15 <Kathy> AWK: I will need to read the emails sent
15:27:30 <Kathy> AWK: still manageable number of issues
15:27:40 <Kathy> AWK: could institute a label
15:27:55 <Kathy> AWK: maybe that is the best way
15:28:00 <Kathy> James: I like that better
15:28:09 <Kathy> David: how do you do that?
15:28:27 <Kathy> AWK: let me see what we need to do to make a label
15:29:22 <Kathy> AWK: created a Ready for Survey label
15:29:35 <Kathy> David: not sure how to add a label
15:30:31 <Kathy> David: doesn't look like I can add a label
15:30:56 <Kathy> James: may need to make a comment first then maybe there are other options
15:31:37 <Kathy> AWK: this is something we need to figure it out; we will look at this
15:33:25 <marcjohlic> https://help.github.com/articles/adding-or-inviting-members-to-a-team-in-an-organization/
15:33:27 <Kathy> AWK: we may need to become members of the organization
15:33:41 <AWK> AWK and Michael will discuss with Josh
15:33:51 <MichaelC> ack me
15:34:04 <Kathy> AWK: [Draft Technique] C31:Using percent for font sizes #71 https://github.com/w3c/wcag/issues/71
15:34:31 <David> https://help.github.com/articles/permission-levels-for-an-organization-repository/
15:34:39 <Kathy> AWK: Mike has already started
15:34:45 <jon_avila> This page says how to add collaborators to your repository https://help.github.com/articles/adding-collaborators-to-a-personal-repository/
15:35:19 <Kathy> AWK: #69 https://github.com/w3c/wcag/issues/69 - Marc already worked on this
15:35:37 <Kathy> Marc: do you want me to add comment that I agree with your comment
15:35:51 <Kathy> AWK: are we making a change or providing clarification
15:36:13 <Kathy> Marc: we are saying we can't change it but provide clarification
15:36:57 <Kathy> AWK: ARIA1 for 2.4.4 Link Purpose #51 - has Marc's name on it
15:37:19 <Kathy> Marc: was my comment initially
15:37:44 <Kathy> Marc: I can do the pull request
15:38:25 <Kathy> AWK: #48  F69: Failure of Success Criterion 1.4.4 when resizing visually rendered text up to 200 percent causes the text, image or controls to be clipped, truncated or obscured #48 Open cleancoderocker opened this Issue Aug 29, 2014 · 0 comments Labels Editorial Milestone No milestone Assignee No one assigned Notifications  You're not receiving notifications from this thread. 2 participants Philip Ackermann joshueoconnor Philip Ackermann cleancoderocker co[CUT]
15:38:39 <Kathy> AWK: it is editorial
15:38:44 <Kathy> AWK: #30
15:38:56 <Kathy> AWK: also editorial
15:39:12 <Kathy> AWK: #29 Code Standards https://github.com/w3c/wcag/issues/29
15:39:24 <Kathy> AWK: Michael and I need to talk about it
15:39:30 <Kathy> AWK: same thing with #23
15:39:50 <Kathy> AWK: #16 on F24
15:39:57 <Kathy> https://github.com/w3c/wcag/issues/16
15:40:24 <Kathy> AWK: in the current version there is no color on the body so this is fixed
15:40:25 <AWK> http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG-TECHS/F24.html is current version, seems fixed
15:41:06 <Kathy> AWK: #15 Techniques F17 procedure #1 and F77 both check for duplicate ID values https://github.com/w3c/wcag/issues/15
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15:41:35 <jamesn> rrsagent, make minutes
15:41:35 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/03/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html jamesn
15:41:38 <Kathy> AWK: we got rid of F17 so this is no longer the case
15:41:57 <Kathy> AWK: any objections to closing this
15:42:27 <Kathy> Jon: comment on 24
15:42:50 <Kathy> Jon: we are not talking about the style color
15:43:18 <Kathy> Jon: the style changed
15:44:06 <Kathy> Jon: we still have color in example #4
15:45:10 <Kathy> AWK: there is a note about it being deprecated
15:45:20 <Kathy> Jon: I am good
15:46:19 <AWK> 2 version old F24: http://www.w3.org/TR/2014/NOTE-WCAG20-TECHS-20140408/F24.html
15:47:23 <Kathy> AWK: you can always look at the issues
15:47:45 <yatil> ack me
15:48:13 <Kathy> Eric: to assign, create a group and then invite them to the group.  Then you can assign them
15:48:23 <Kathy> AWK: can you now change the label?
15:48:31 <Kathy> David: I am not seeing that
15:48:41 <Kathy> Eric: probably can't
15:48:54 <Kathy> AWK: I can change the label
15:49:15 <Kathy> David: the three stars make it bold and italic
15:49:27 <yatil> https://github.com/orgs/w3c/teams/wcag-contributors
15:49:51 <jon_avila> Test 80 is ready for the survey label.
15:49:56 <MichaelC> ack me
15:50:48 <yatil> zakim, mute me
15:50:48 <Zakim> EricE should now be muted
15:51:21 <Kathy> Kathy: do you need everyone's id
15:51:29 <Kathy> AWK: create a new issue to collect ids
15:51:56 <Kathy> https://github.com/w3c/wcag/issues/82
15:52:42 <Kathy> AWK: add in your id or comment so we can add you to the list and permissions
15:52:43 <AWK> Zakim, close this item
15:52:43 <Zakim> agendum 1 closed
15:52:44 <Zakim> I see 5 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
15:52:44 <Zakim> 2. Monitoring of WAI-IG list [from Kenny]
15:52:51 <AWK> Zakim, next item
15:52:51 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Monitoring of WAI-IG list" taken up [from Kenny]
15:53:02 <Kathy> TOPIC: Monitoring of WAI-IG list
15:54:19 <Kathy> AWK: not sure who is on the list; there is discussion that goes on there.  We need to monitor this and send it to the group if we need to be aware of it
15:54:39 <Kathy> AWK: do we have a couple of volunteers
15:54:55 <Kathy> Jon: i am subscribed
15:55:00 <Kathy> Loretta: I am also on it
15:55:07 <MichaelC> To subscribe to the list, send e-mail to w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org with "subscribe" as the subject.
15:55:10 <MichaelC> http://www.w3.org/WAI/IG/#mailinglist
15:55:21 <Kathy> AWK: not intended to be a big responsibility
15:55:31 <Kathy> AWK: we just need to keep tabs on it
15:55:51 <Kathy> Jon: i can do that
15:56:22 <Kathy> Loretta: on the list but may not always be looking at it
15:56:34 <Kathy> AWK: will also send note to the list
15:57:00 <Kathy> AWK: We will also look for other volunteers
15:57:35 <jamesn> 600 ...... LOL
15:58:02 <AWK> Jon is willing but AWK will see if any other WCAG members can - a great way to participate asynchronously
15:58:11 <AWK> Zakim, close this item
15:58:11 <Zakim> agendum 2 closed
15:58:12 <Zakim> I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
15:58:12 <Zakim> 3. Discussion of timeline and goals for next update of supporting documents [from Kenny]
15:58:14 <AWK> Zakim, next item
15:58:14 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Discussion of timeline and goals for next update of supporting documents" taken up [from Kenny]
15:58:18 <Kathy> TOPIC: Discussion of timeline and goals for next update of supporting documents
15:58:40 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Timelines
15:58:49 <Kathy> AWK: roughly the same as before... September for the next update
15:58:51 <MichaelC> ack me
15:59:37 <Kathy> AWK: wiki page has timeline: https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Timelines
16:00:49 <Kathy> AWK: this is coming quickly.  Mid-May for new techniques
16:00:56 <AWK> Mid May for new techniques is the plan
16:01:15 <Kathy> AWK: what else do we want to do during this time
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16:02:17 <Kathy> AWK: we need to look at the techniques and the feedback from CSUN
16:03:03 <Zakim> +cstrobbe
16:03:04 <Kathy> AWK: other people may want to engage with the mobile taskforce to write techniques