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19:20:22 <phila> zakim, this will be sdw
19:20:22 <Zakim> ok, phila; I see DATA_SDWWG()3:00PM scheduled to start in 40 minutes
19:20:32 <phila> RRSAgent, make logs public
19:48:31 <phila> chair: Ed
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19:53:19 <eparsons> trackbot, start meeting
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19:53:23 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be SDW
19:53:23 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see DATA_SDWWG()3:00PM scheduled to start in 7 minutes
19:53:24 <trackbot> Meeting: Spatial Data on the Web Working Group Teleconference
19:53:24 <trackbot> Date: 04 March 2015
19:53:40 <eparsons> zakim, this will be sdw
19:53:40 <Zakim> ok, eparsons; I see DATA_SDWWG()3:00PM scheduled to start in 7 minutes
19:53:52 <eparsons> RRSAgent, make logs public
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19:55:24 <Linda> zakim, ??p0 is me
19:55:24 <Zakim> +Linda; got it
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19:58:33 <Zakim> +YolandaGil; got it
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20:01:18 <lewismc> zakim, +1.818393.lewismc is me
20:01:18 <Zakim> sorry, lewismc, I do not recognize a party named '+1.818393.lewismc'
20:01:25 <Zakim> + +1.603.897.aadd
20:01:32 <MattPerry> zakim, aadd is me
20:01:32 <Zakim> +MattPerry; got it
20:01:39 <lewismc> zakim, +1.818.393.lewismc is me
20:01:39 <Zakim> sorry, lewismc, I do not recognize a party named '+1.818.393.lewismc'
20:01:44 <billroberts> zakim, [IPcaller] is me
20:01:44 <Zakim> +billroberts; got it
20:01:51 <lewismc> zakim, +1.818.393.7402 is lewismc
20:01:51 <Zakim> sorry, lewismc, I do not recognize a party named '+1.818.393.7402'
20:02:01 <lewismc> zakim, 1.818.393.7402 is lewismc
20:02:01 <Zakim> sorry, lewismc, I do not recognize a party named '1.818.393.7402'
20:02:05 <lewismc> lewismc
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20:02:20 <Zakim> sorry, phila, I do not recognize a party named 'lewismc'
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20:06:10 <phila> ed: Begins the meeting and asks for a scribe
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20:06:32 <eparsons> http://www.w3.org/2015/02/25-sdw-minutes
20:06:41 <lewismc> PROPOSE: Approve last weeks minutes
20:06:49 <aharth> +1
20:06:52 <phila> phila: Apologises for last week's rubbish minutes. RRSAgent is running this week
20:06:55 <billroberts> +1
20:06:55 <eparsons> +1
20:06:55 <ChrisLittle> zakim aagg is me
20:06:57 <phila> +1
20:07:00 <MattPerry> +1
20:07:01 <JoshLieberman> +1
20:07:01 <KJanowicz> +1
20:07:06 <Linda_> I dont see my name in the Present list
20:07:07 <phila> zakim, aagg is ChrisLittle
20:07:07 <Zakim> +ChrisLittle; got it
20:07:08 <ChrisLittle> +1
20:07:17 <lewismc> RESOLVE: Last weeks minutes APPROVED
20:07:22 <Zakim> +??P7
20:07:22 <phila> I'll add it Linda
20:07:31 <Linda_> thx phila
20:07:33 <AndreaPerego> zakim, ?P7 is me
20:07:33 <Zakim> sorry, AndreaPerego, I do not recognize a party named '?P7'
20:07:41 <AndreaPerego> zakim, ??P7 is me
20:07:41 <Zakim> +AndreaPerego; got it
20:07:49 <AndreaPerego> zakim, mute me
20:07:49 <Zakim> AndreaPerego should now be muted
20:08:04 <lewismc> OGC Patent Call determines that these calls go ahead
20:08:38 <lewismc> eparsons: new people on the call
20:08:54 <lewismc> Alex_Coley: introducing himself on the call
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20:09:30 <lewismc> ... contributed very much towards this working group
20:10:08 <Zakim> + +1.650.724.aahh
20:10:25 <lewismc> lewismc: introduce himsefl on the call
20:10:33 <KarlG_> 1.650.724.aahh is KarlG_
20:10:41 <phila> zakim, aahh is KarlG
20:10:41 <Zakim> +KarlG; got it
20:10:45 <AndreaPerego> s/himsefl/himself/
20:11:03 <phila> Topic: Issues around work to be done at f2f
20:11:06 <lewismc> eparsons: next item, spend remainder of call on the issues for F2F in Barcelona
20:11:22 <lewismc> ... main order of activities to go through use cases, packagem them and group then in smilar areas
20:11:35 <lewismc> ... common requirements for best practicies in terms of technology scope
20:11:43 <lewismc> .. looking at those technologies
20:12:06 <lewismc> ... Yolanda has set out an agenda for gathering use cases
20:12:17 <phila> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sdw-wg/2015Mar/0005.html Yolanda's e-mail
20:12:22 <YolandaGil> The organization of use cases for the W3C Provenance XG is described in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sdw-wg/2015Mar/0005.html
20:12:26 <lewismc> YolandaGil: proposed an agenda for the Provennance Incubator Group
20:12:31 <AndreaPerego> s/packagem/package/
20:12:35 <AndreaPerego> s/smilar/similar/
20:12:51 <AndreaPerego> s/Provennance/Provenance/
20:13:10 <lewismc> YolandaGil: how could we describe or highlight another use case and manage the contributions?
20:13:48 <lewismc> ... so setting out a plan as described in the W3C Provenance XG document and the email sent to the list the strategy for accepting contributions and also managing contributions
20:13:56 <lewismc> ... use cases are important to communicate
20:14:15 <lewismc> ... create 3 sythensizing scenarios (flagship) ideas
20:14:42 <lewismc> ... 1) general web scenario , 2) sience, 3) contracts and industry setting
20:15:02 <lewismc> s/sience/science
20:15:17 <lewismc> ... has a team of curators who worked with the authors of the use cases
20:15:28 <lewismc> ... highlight what the editors are after
20:16:03 <lewismc> ... navigate through use cases to see what they highligh
20:16:33 <lewismc> ... use curation as a mechanism for arriving at the threee flagship scenarios... thi enabes the group to work more effectively.
20:16:47 <AndreaPerego> s/thi /this /
20:16:48 <lewismc> eparsons: useful input and overlapping with the scoping questions
20:16:58 <lewismc> ... how long did the curation process take?
20:17:06 <lewismc> YolandaGil: about 2 or 3 months total
20:17:06 <AndreaPerego> s/enabes/enables/
20:17:22 <lewismc> ... this work can be combined with other work
20:17:45 <lewismc> ... began to do other tasks in parallel
20:17:53 <lewismc> eparsons: opening them up for questions
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20:18:05 <ChrisLittle> q+
20:18:05 <lewismc> ... useful for gathering and managing use cases
20:18:09 <eparsons> ack next
20:18:50 <lewismc> ChrisLittle: when you were curating use cases, was it easy to extract underlying structure or was it more intensive task?
20:19:05 <lewismc> YolandaGil: that was something that was constructed as a group
20:19:43 <lewismc> ... once you abstract away from the use case into the flagship scenarios they become the groups scenarios as oppose to personal use cases
20:19:49 <phila> regrets+ Clemens Portele, Simon Cox, Kerry Taylor, Alejandro Llaves, Ioannis Athanasiadis, Lars Svensson, Erich Bremer, Rachel heaven, Jitao Yang
20:20:13 <lewismc> lewismc: is there a template for gathering use cases?
20:20:35 <lewismc> YolandaGil: yes, the template has dimensions which represent the spatial domain
20:21:03 <lewismc> ... representation was something the use cases describe, but also where the data should be stored
20:21:17 <lewismc> ... 3rd topic was how a user interprets data
20:21:41 <lewismc> ... maybe some template of a similar nature would be useful for this WG
20:21:52 <lewismc> eparsons: scoping mechansim is a good filter for use cases
20:22:04 <lewismc> ... tenplate to identify common characterustucs from across use cases
20:22:20 <AndreaPerego> s/mechansim/mechanism/
20:22:25 <lewismc> ... trial and error approach, we can iterate until we find a good fit
20:22:32 <AndreaPerego> s/tenplate/template/
20:22:33 <eparsons> https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/F2f_Barcelona
20:22:35 <lewismc> TOPIC: Agenda for F2F
20:22:52 <lewismc> eparsons: a number of individuals have put together what the agenda should look like
20:22:58 <AndreaPerego> s/characterustucs/characteristics/
20:23:32 <lewismc> ... think that the best manner to approach is to split in to groups then take one requirement for each group
20:23:50 <lewismc> ... spend most of the day doing that with break for 1pm for lunch
20:24:06 <lewismc> ... after lunch come together to derive common characteristics
20:24:19 <lewismc> ... towards end of day run lightening talks for technologies overview
20:24:31 <lewismc> ... hard stop at 5:30PM
20:24:54 <lewismc> eparsons: would appreciate some input on how to define subgroups
20:25:16 <KarlG_> q+
20:25:18 <lewismc> ... opening up to questions and comments for the agenda?
20:25:22 <eparsons> ack next
20:25:32 <ChrisLittle> s/lightening/lightning/
20:26:02 <lewismc> KarlG_: noticed that OWL Time ontology is not an existing technology
20:26:06 <Linda_> q+
20:26:20 <lewismc> eparsons: no one has come forward to present on the topic, therefore it has not been included
20:26:24 <phila> Are you volunteering KarlG_ ?
20:27:01 <lewismc> KarlG_: associated question, many technology incl, GeoJSON have deficiencies which may make their way into discussion
20:27:29 <lewismc> eparsons: lightning talks act to get everyone on to the same page.
20:27:33 <KJanowicz> IMHO the talks are just 'selected topics' not an overview about all details and all relevant technologies
20:27:40 <lewismc> ... will drill into more detail further down the line
20:27:57 <eparsons> ack next
20:28:00 <lewismc> KarlG_: will not be able to make it so cannot commit to a presentation
20:28:17 <lewismc> Linda_: ends at 5:30PM... is that not 6:30PM?
20:28:20 <lewismc> eparsons: No
20:29:01 <lewismc> Linda_: topic discussed at the end, thought that the idea was to look into general technologies which fit into the best practicies as oppose to other technologies outside of that immediate scope
20:29:43 <lewismc> eparsons: lighning talks are only meant to getting everyone on the same page, they do not represent an exclusive list
20:30:21 <lewismc> ... F2F meeting organizaers are going to make use of GoToMeeting software for remote participants to participate as fully as possible
20:30:21 <AndreaPerego> s/lighning/lightning/
20:30:34 <JoshLieberman> When you click on a GTM meeting link, it will download the app at the time.
20:30:39 <AndreaPerego> s/organizaers/organizers/
20:31:03 <phila> https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/F2f_Barcelona#Tuesday_Evening_meetup
20:31:31 <lewismc> phila: minor point regarding bottom of agenda page, Kerry will be finding a place where everyone can meet up
20:31:40 <lewismc> ... location will be on the wiki shortly
20:31:56 <ChrisLittle> +1
20:32:01 <AndreaPerego> +1
20:32:14 <JoshLieberman> The link to the go to meeting session for the f2f is already reserved: https://www4.gotomeeting.com/join/353923093
20:32:28 <phila> q+
20:32:32 <lewismc> eparsons: F2F next week will be no telecon, week after will be review of F2F
20:32:34 <eparsons> ack next
20:32:55 <billroberts> q+
20:32:56 <lewismc> phila: suggests reading long list of use cases prior to F2F
20:33:05 <lewismc> ... please check for day light savings time
20:33:29 <lewismc> ... U.S. is changing DST, so please keep an eye
20:33:49 <eparsons> ack next
20:34:07 <lewismc> billroberts: not going to be able to join the F2F,
20:34:26 <lewismc> ... is it possible to submit some 'homework'
20:34:34 <lewismc> eparsons: please put all on to the public list
20:34:37 <ChrisLittle> q+
20:34:42 <lewismc> ... template ideas, general groupings, etc
20:34:49 <lewismc> ... all to the public list
20:34:59 <eparsons> ack next
20:35:00 <lewismc> ... these can then be taken to the F2F
20:35:25 <lewismc> ChrisLittle: was trying quite hard to get a health use case
20:35:36 <lewismc> ... possibly produce a health use case
20:35:38 <phila> I added a medical use case this eve on behalf of Erich Bremer who has joined the group
20:35:50 <JoshLieberman> There are demographic use cases with same characteristic
20:36:20 <Linda_> q+
20:36:24 <eparsons> ack next
20:36:27 <lewismc> eparsons: use cases gathering task will end shortly so getting them in soon enough would be great
20:36:51 <lewismc> Linda_: upon review of use case, they all seem to be public or government... with no private
20:37:05 <lewismc> eparsons: I have added some private ones... it is important to include these
20:37:31 <lewismc> TOPIC: Conclusions
20:37:36 <ChrisLittle> bye
20:37:38 <Zakim> -YolandaGil
20:37:38 <KarlG_> bye all
20:37:40 <Zakim> -Ashok_Malhotra
20:37:40 <AndreaPerego> See you in Barcelona
20:37:40 <JoshLieberman> bye
20:37:42 <lewismc> see everonenetxt week
20:37:42 <Zakim> -billroberts
20:37:43 <Zakim> -MattPerry
20:37:43 <Zakim> -ChrisLittle
20:37:44 <JoshLieberman> JoshLieberman has left #sdw
20:37:44 <phila> RRSAgent, draft minutes
20:37:44 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/03/04-sdw-minutes.html phila
20:37:45 <Zakim> -lewismc
20:37:45 <KJanowicz> bye
20:37:46 <Zakim> -Linda
20:37:46 <eparsons> bye all
20:37:46 <Zakim> -aharth
20:37:50 <Zakim> -ahaller2
20:37:51 <Alex_Coley> bye
20:37:51 <Zakim> -JoshLieberman
20:37:51 <Zakim> - +1.412.390.aaff
20:37:53 <MattPerry> bye
20:37:54 <Zakim> -AndreaPerego
20:37:56 <Zakim> -phila
20:37:56 <Zakim> -KJanowicz
20:38:01 <Zakim> -Alex_Coley
20:38:06 <phila> zakim, list participants
20:38:06 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been Linda, eparsons, phila, YolandaGil, +44.792.021.aaaa, aharth, +1.857.919.aabb, JoshLieberman, Alex_Coley, +1.818.393.aacc, +1.603.897.aadd,
20:38:09 <Zakim> ... MattPerry, billroberts, lewismc, +61.4.331.2.aaee, ahaller2, Ashok_Malhotra, +1.412.390.aaff, +44.775.388.aagg, KJanowicz, ChrisLittle, AndreaPerego, +1.650.724.aahh, KarlG
20:38:10 <Zakim> -eparsons
20:38:15 <phila> RRSAgent, draft minutes
20:38:15 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/03/04-sdw-minutes.html phila
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20:42:41 <Zakim> -KarlG
20:42:43 <Zakim> DATA_SDWWG()3:00PM has ended
20:42:43 <Zakim> Attendees were Linda, eparsons, phila, YolandaGil, +44.792.021.aaaa, aharth, +1.857.919.aabb, JoshLieberman, Alex_Coley, +1.818.393.aacc, +1.603.897.aadd, MattPerry, billroberts,
20:42:43 <Zakim> ... lewismc, +61.4.331.2.aaee, ahaller2, Ashok_Malhotra, +1.412.390.aaff, +44.775.388.aagg, KJanowicz, ChrisLittle, AndreaPerego, +1.650.724.aahh, KarlG