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15:58:27 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 63342
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15:58:28 <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Media Task Force Teleconference
15:58:28 <trackbot> Date: 03 March 2015
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15:58:37 <Zakim> +ddorwin
15:59:12 <paulc> zakim, what is the code?
15:59:12 <Zakim> the conference code is 63342 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), paulc
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15:59:50 <paulc> zakim, [Microsoft] is me
15:59:50 <Zakim> +paulc; got it
16:00:20 <paulc> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2015Mar/0000.html
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16:01:15 <paulc> zakim, who is here?
16:01:15 <Zakim> On the phone I see ddorwin, paulc, jdsmith, markw
16:01:16 <Zakim> On IRC I see markw, jdsmith, Zakim, RRSAgent, paulc, MattWolenetz, ddorwin, adrianba, trackbot
16:02:08 <paulc> Joe Steele has sent his regrets
16:03:34 <Zakim> +??P19
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16:04:06 <paulc> zakim, P19 is MattWolenetz
16:04:06 <Zakim> sorry, paulc, I do not recognize a party named 'P19'
16:04:24 <paulc> zakim, ??P19 is MattWolenetz
16:04:24 <Zakim> +MattWolenetz; got it
16:04:58 <paulc> Topic: Issue #33 - Expose unclosed and unremoved MediaKeySessions on MediaKeys
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16:05:23 <paulc> https://github.com/w3c/encrypted-media/issues/33
16:06:02 <Zakim> +davide
16:06:16 <paulc> Scribenick: paulc
16:06:52 <paulc> David: I have been trying to explain what EME does here and it appears to be something we don't need to specify.
16:07:33 <paulc> Jerry: Can this be handled with custom properties?
16:07:43 <paulc> David: We discussed this before we had closed.
16:08:07 <paulc> ... It is something that is easy to specify but it seems unnecessary.
16:08:12 <Zakim> +BobLund
16:08:21 <paulc> Jerry:  The Application can keep track of its own sessions.
16:08:45 <paulc> David: There are other facilities we don't provide.
16:09:01 <paulc> Jerry: I agree with concept to keep it simple.
16:09:12 <paulc> ACTION: jdsmith to comment on Issue 33
16:09:13 <trackbot> Created ACTION-74 - Comment on issue 33 [on Jerry Smith - due 2015-03-10].
16:09:45 <paulc> Topic: Issue #34 - Replace base64url values in examples with realistic values that use base64url-specific characters
16:09:54 <paulc> https://github.com/w3c/encrypted-media/issues/34
16:10:17 <paulc> David: This is a bug in an example and needs to be fixed.
16:10:53 <paulc> David: Related to Issue 10 which also asked for better examples.
16:11:03 <paulc> https://github.com/w3c/encrypted-media/issues/10
16:11:30 <paulc> Chair:  We will leave these two with the Editors.  They are marked HelpWanted.
16:11:46 <paulc> Topic: Issue #35 - createSupportedKeySystem() should return a Promise
16:12:00 <paulc> https://github.com/w3c/encrypted-media/issues/35
16:12:06 <ddorwin> s/HelpWanted/"help wanted"/
16:12:18 <paulc> David:  This is a pull request for an example and is closed.  See Issue 37.
16:12:40 <paulc> Topic: Issue #37 - createSupportedKeySystem() should return a Promise
16:13:06 <paulc> https://github.com/w3c/encrypted-media/issues/37
16:13:24 <paulc> David:  This is the issue that fixes the problem originally identified in 35.
16:13:37 <paulc> Topic: Issue #36 - Explicitly state that MediaKeySystemMediaCapability's contentType attribute MUST be a valid MIME type
16:13:48 <paulc> https://github.com/w3c/encrypted-media/issues/36
16:14:10 <paulc> David: Found this when reviewing the text.  We will have to copy what HTML5 does - see issue text.
16:14:21 <paulc> David: In the editors queue.
16:14:57 <paulc> Topic: Issue #31 - generateRequest() should allow the first message to not be a license request based on initData
16:15:06 <paulc> https://github.com/w3c/encrypted-media/issues/31
16:16:04 <paulc> ACTION: joesteele to ask Chris Pearce to review Issue 31
16:16:04 <trackbot> Error finding 'joesteele'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/html/wg/media/track/users>.
16:17:01 <paulc> ACTION: Joe Steele to ask Chris Pearce to review Issue 31
16:17:02 <trackbot> Created ACTION-75 - Steele to ask chris pearce to review issue 31 [on Joe Steele - due 2015-03-10].
16:18:06 <paulc> Topic: Issue #19 - Ensure promises returned by methods are fulfilled before event handlers are executed
16:18:18 <paulc> https://github.com/w3c/encrypted-media/issues/19
16:18:48 <paulc> David: Part of this one was moved to Issue 31 and now David needs to continue working on the remaining part of this issue
16:19:08 <paulc> Topic: Issue #29 - Allow applications to detect media key session type
16:19:19 <paulc> https://github.com/w3c/encrypted-media/issues/29
16:19:34 <paulc> David:  This was discussed two weeks ago and is in the queue to be implemented.
16:19:50 <paulc> Topic: Bug 26776 - Diagnosing and resolving CDM errors needs a numeric systemCode (deleted with MediaKeyError)
16:20:07 <paulc> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=26776
16:20:15 <paulc> ACTION-73?
16:20:15 <trackbot> ACTION-73 -- Jerry Smith to Make proposal for resolving bug 26776 -- due 2015-02-17 -- OPEN
16:20:15 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/media/track/actions/73
16:20:38 <paulc> David: My recent comments were recording previous discussion
16:20:47 <paulc> Jerry: Working on this today.
16:20:59 <paulc> ACTION-73 due next week
16:20:59 <trackbot> Set ACTION-73 Make proposal for resolving bug 26776 due date to 2015-03-09.
16:21:19 <paulc> Jerry:  What errors are we working on?
16:21:36 <paulc> David: We should handle anything that is rejected by the Promise.
16:21:57 <paulc> David: We return the System Code and put it in the message.
16:22:01 <paulc> Jerry: okay
16:22:36 <paulc> Jerry:  MSFT has errors that can occur asynchronously and want to check how these are covered by DOM errors
16:22:53 <paulc> David: Anything that can happen should be reported
16:23:37 <paulc> Topic: Issue #25 - Problem about MediaKeySession.keyStatuses get/has methods
16:23:43 <ddorwin> Web IDL's maplike does not behave how we need it to.
16:23:55 <ddorwin> I sent https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-script-coord/2015JanMar/0148.html.
16:24:00 <paulc> https://github.com/w3c/encrypted-media/issues/25
16:24:26 <paulc> David:  I did the action and there are replies to review.
16:25:13 <paulc> David: My preferred is to do the definition manually instead of using "maplike".
16:25:24 <paulc> s/preferred/preferred approach/
16:25:31 <ddorwin> ^… assuming no changes in Web IDL.
16:25:58 <paulc> paulc:  I encourage the Editors to NOT wait on changes in WebIDL.
16:26:40 <paulc> Topic: Issue #22- Provide more guidance on the behavior of the keyStatuses attribute
16:26:54 <paulc> https://github.com/w3c/encrypted-media/issues/22
16:28:17 <markw> On #25, can we write the manual prose we require in a generic way and contribute it back to WebIDL ? I think the WebIDL people should be encouraged to provide the tools other spec writers need.
16:28:32 <paulc> markw: We need to continue the discussion since David and I don't yet agree.
16:28:51 <paulc> Topic: Issue #16 - Review close() and remove() logic and behavior for persistent-* sessions
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16:31:20 <paulc_> rrsagent, generate the minutes
16:31:20 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/03/03-html-media-minutes.html paulc_
16:31:42 <paulc_> ACTION: jdsmith to review and comment on Issues 16 and 18
16:31:43 <trackbot> Created ACTION-76 - Review and comment on issues 16 and 18 [on Jerry Smith - due 2015-03-10].
16:32:19 <paulc_> Topic: EME and MSE heartbeat publications
16:32:43 <paulc_> David: I was waiting for Adrian to make progress on MSE document. EME is ready at any time.
16:32:59 <paulc_> paulc: I will follow up with Adrian and the Team contacts.
16:33:17 <paulc_> Topic: F2F meeting
16:33:42 <paulc_> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2015Mar/0001.html
16:34:16 <Zakim> -BobLund
16:34:17 <paulc_> paulc: When the Chairs reviewed the location preference poll we noted that it might make the most sense to have TF meetings in the selected meeting slot.
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16:35:50 <paulc_> paulc: What is the opinion of the TF members on the call about a TF F2F?
16:36:15 <paulc_> Jerry: I think it would be a good idea.  It has been 6 months since the last F2F.
16:36:43 <paulc_> David: Some bugs like the close() re persistent license could do with a white board session.
16:37:06 <paulc_> Paul: This is a classic "if you build they will come"
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16:38:05 <markw_> q+
16:38:26 <paulc_> ack markw
16:38:32 <BobLund> +1
16:40:48 <paulc_> markw;  I suggest we make a list of target issues/bugs to be resolved at the meeting.  Might be a way of forcing the discussion.
16:41:16 <paulc_> David: It would be good to discuss proposals instead of introducing new bugs
16:41:37 <paulc_> paulc; I am not hearing objections to a F2F.
16:42:22 <paulc_> paulc:  I will try to make the Media TF F2F happen.
16:43:20 <paulc_> Topic: Next EME meeting
16:44:08 <paulc_> paulc: I propose we meet in two weeks on March 17 to EME topics
16:44:14 <paulc_> paulc: no objections.
16:44:20 <paulc_> rrsagent, generate the minutes
16:44:20 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/03/03-html-media-minutes.html paulc_
16:44:37 <paulc_> Topic: Issue 9
16:44:47 <ddorwin> I'd like to call your attention to the discussion in https://github.com/w3c/encrypted-media/issues/9
16:44:59 <ddorwin> It would be good to have other comments
16:45:12 <ddorwin> Specifically, https://github.com/w3c/encrypted-media/issues/9#issuecomment-75681264
16:46:05 <paulc_> ACTION: markw to review pushback from Apple on ISSUE 9
16:46:06 <trackbot> Created ACTION-77 - Review pushback from apple on issue 9 [on Mark Watson - due 2015-03-10].
16:46:23 <paulc_> Topic: Adjournment
16:46:29 <Zakim> -jdsmith
16:46:30 <Zakim> -BobLund
16:46:31 <Zakim> -davide
16:46:33 <paulc_> We adjourned at :46 after the hour
16:46:34 <Zakim> -ddorwin
16:46:34 <Zakim> -MattWolenetz
16:46:39 <Zakim> -markw
16:46:40 <paulc_> rrsagent, generate the minutes
16:46:40 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/03/03-html-media-minutes.html paulc_
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