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15:57:05 <kaz> zakim, who is here?
15:57:05 <Zakim> sorry, kaz, I don't know what conference this is
15:57:07 <Zakim> On IRC I see BillRose, Zakim, RRSAgent, GlennDeen, timeless, kaz, richt, MarkS, tobie, schuki, trackbot
15:57:13 <kaz> zakim, this will be webtv
15:57:13 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, kaz
15:57:27 <BillRose> GGIE meeting
15:57:38 <GlennDeen> kaz it's webtv2
15:57:48 <kaz> zakim, this will be webtv2
15:57:48 <Zakim> ok, kaz; I see WEBT_GGIE TF()11:00AM scheduled to start in 3 minutes
15:58:01 <kaz> zakim, call kazuyuki-617
15:58:01 <Zakim> ok, kaz; the call is being made
15:58:21 <GlennDeen> hi kaz,  wasn't sure you were going to be on today - I heard it was a holiday in japan
15:59:05 <kaz> zakim, who is here?
15:59:05 <Zakim> WEBT_GGIE TF()11:00AM has not yet started, kaz
15:59:07 <Zakim> On IRC I see BillRose, Zakim, RRSAgent, GlennDeen, timeless, kaz, richt, MarkS, tobie, schuki, trackbot
15:59:10 <wilkinm> wilkinm has joined #webtv
15:59:23 <kaz> zakim, this is webtv2
15:59:23 <Zakim> ok, kaz; that matches WEBT_GGIE TF()11:00AM
15:59:24 <Zakim> +Leslie_Daigle
15:59:27 <kaz> zakim, who is here?
15:59:27 <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.818.777.aaaa, Kazuyuki, +1.860.313.aabb, Leslie_Daigle
15:59:29 <Zakim> On IRC I see wilkinm, BillRose, Zakim, RRSAgent, GlennDeen, timeless, kaz, richt, MarkS, tobie, schuki, trackbot
15:59:29 <Zakim> + +4871719aacc
15:59:38 <Paul_Higgs> Paul_Higgs has joined #webtv
15:59:49 <Zakim> + +1.818.777.aadd
15:59:57 <mark_vickers> mark_vickers has joined #webtv
16:00:01 <Zakim> +??P15
16:00:11 <mateuszk> mateuszk has joined #webtv
16:00:26 <ldaigle> ldaigle has joined #webtv
16:00:36 <yosuke> yosuke has joined #webtv
16:00:48 <kaz> zakim, who is here?
16:00:48 <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.818.777.aaaa, Kazuyuki, +1.860.313.aabb, Leslie_Daigle, +4871719aacc, +1.818.777.aadd, ??P15
16:00:52 <Zakim> On IRC I see yosuke, ldaigle, mateuszk, mark_vickers, Paul_Higgs, wilkinm, BillRose, Zakim, RRSAgent, GlennDeen, timeless, kaz, richt, MarkS, tobie, schuki, trackbot
16:01:16 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
16:01:25 <kaz> zakim, IPcaller is giuseppe
16:01:26 <Zakim> +giuseppe; got it
16:01:36 <Zakim> + +8339aaee
16:01:51 <Bin_Hu> Bin_Hu has joined #webtv
16:01:54 <giuseppe> giuseppe has joined #webtv
16:02:11 <GlennDeen> We will be a little bit light today several people have notified me they are traveling or having a holiday today
16:02:24 <jianz> jianz has joined #webtv
16:02:25 <kaz> zakim, who is noisy?
16:02:30 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
16:02:36 <Zakim> kaz, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: +1.818.777.aaaa (41%), +8339aaee (8%)
16:02:40 <Zakim> + +1.650.946.aaff
16:02:42 <kaz> zakim, IPcaller is yosuke
16:02:42 <Zakim> +yosuke; got it
16:02:47 <Zakim> + +1.303.579.aagg
16:02:59 <kaz> zakim, aaff is Bin_Hu
16:02:59 <Zakim> +Bin_Hu; got it
16:03:01 <azamlerc> azamlerc has joined #webtv
16:03:07 <kaz> zakim, aagg is So_Vang
16:03:08 <Zakim> +So_Vang; got it
16:03:17 <azamlerc> Hi folks, Andrew Zamler-Carhart from Cisco in France
16:03:27 <Zakim> +Paul_Higgs
16:03:28 <kaz> zakim, who is here?
16:03:29 <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.818.777.aaaa, Kazuyuki, +1.860.313.aabb, Leslie_Daigle, +4871719aacc, +1.818.777.aadd, ??P15, giuseppe, +8339aaee, yosuke, Bin_Hu, So_Vang, Paul_Higgs
16:03:29 <Zakim> On IRC I see azamlerc, jianz, giuseppe, Bin_Hu, yosuke, ldaigle, mateuszk, mark_vickers, Paul_Higgs, wilkinm, BillRose, Zakim, RRSAgent, GlennDeen, timeless, kaz, richt, MarkS,
16:03:29 <Zakim> ... tobie, schuki, trackbot
16:03:33 <jianz> jianz: jian zhao from verance
16:03:59 <BillRose> Glenn called the meeting to order at 11:03
16:04:06 <kaz> Scribe: Bill
16:04:06 <BillRose> Bill Rose will be scribe
16:04:20 <kaz> i/Glenn called/scribenick: BillRose/
16:04:27 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
16:04:35 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:04:35 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/02/11-webtv-minutes.html kaz
16:04:55 <GlennDeen> Agenda: Feb 11, 2015 – GGIE – Glass to Glass Internet Ecosystem Call
16:05:02 <GlennDeen> (1) Roll Call
16:05:04 <BillRose> Glenn posted the agenda
16:05:11 <GlennDeen> (2) 1-28-15 minutes
16:05:20 <GlennDeen> (3) Agenda Bash
16:05:29 <GlennDeen> (4) What we have somewhat settled on so far (but it’s still open
16:05:39 <GlennDeen> (a) Advertising is included
16:06:16 <PaulG> PaulG has joined #webtv
16:06:54 <Zakim> + +1.908.848.aahh
16:07:01 <GlennDeen>     (b) The network is IPv6, we won’t be putting effort into issues that are IPv4 only
16:07:15 <GlennDeen>     (c) Network is mobile and traditional home/office
16:07:25 <GlennDeen>     (d) Content will have a name.  But is it a URI or a URN ?
16:07:29 <kaz> agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-web-and-tv/2015Feb/0002.html
16:07:36 <GlennDeen>     (c) anything else?
16:07:42 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:07:42 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/02/11-webtv-minutes.html kaz
16:07:49 <GlennDeen> (5) What do we need to understand better to proceed?
16:07:59 <GlennDeen> - what are suggestions for topics we need to solicit information on
16:08:06 <GlennDeen> (6) Face-face dates discussion
16:08:07 <kaz> Meeting: Web&TV IG GGIE TF
16:08:19 <kaz> Chair: Glenn_Deen
16:08:21 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:08:21 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/02/11-webtv-minutes.html kaz
16:08:48 <BillRose> Glenn called for changes to the minutes
16:09:00 <BillRose> Glenn moved to approve the minutes without change.
16:09:11 <BillRose> Glenn called for changes to the agenda
16:09:17 <BillRose> No changes were made
16:09:22 <kaz> zakim, mute me
16:09:22 <Zakim> Kazuyuki should now be muted
16:09:29 <kaz> zakim, who is noisy?
16:09:30 <BillRose> Glenn: 3 topics for today
16:09:41 <Zakim> kaz, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: +1.818.777.aaaa (59%), giuseppe (14%), +8339aaee (4%)
16:09:48 <BillRose> 1) What has been decided
16:10:03 <BillRose> 2) what do we need to gather more information on?
16:10:31 <kaz> i/What has been decided/topic: Agenda Bash/
16:10:35 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:10:35 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/02/11-webtv-minutes.html kaz
16:10:54 <BillRose> 3) Scheduling a face to face meeting
16:11:25 <BillRose> Glenn reviewed what has been settled
16:11:38 <BillRose> 1. Advertising is included in the scope
16:12:47 <BillRose> 2. Focus on IPv6, not addressing IPv4 only issues.
16:13:30 <BillRose> 3. Will include mobile; traditional home networks (WiFi, etc., including hot spot WiFi);
16:13:57 <kaz> i/Glenn reviewed/topic: What has been decided/
16:13:58 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:13:58 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/02/11-webtv-minutes.html kaz
16:14:22 <BillRose> 4. Content will have a "name" i.e. a unique ID that can be discovered/referenced
16:14:58 <BillRose> Glenn: Refer to it as a URN or URI?
16:15:37 <kaz> zakim, who is speaking?
16:15:40 <BillRose> Lesile: URI unless or until it is assigned a specific name.
16:15:47 <Zakim> kaz, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: giuseppe (21%), +8339aaee (40%)
16:16:17 <BillRose> Leslie: URN until it can be resolved to a specific URI
16:17:00 <ldaigle> sure
16:17:26 <BillRose> Glenn: Asked further discussion to be taken off line - post link if available
16:17:41 <BillRose> Glenn: Anything else we have settled on or propose we should settle on?
16:17:44 <kaz> s/Lesile/Leslie/
16:17:48 <BillRose> No responses.
16:17:54 <Zakim> +Mark_Vickers
16:18:16 <kaz> zakim, who is here?
16:18:16 <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.818.777.aaaa, Kazuyuki (muted), +1.860.313.aabb, Leslie_Daigle, +4871719aacc, +1.818.777.aadd, ??P15, giuseppe, +8339aaee, yosuke, Bin_Hu, So_Vang,
16:18:21 <Zakim> ... Paul_Higgs, +1.908.848.aahh, Mark_Vickers
16:18:21 <Zakim> On IRC I see PaulG, azamlerc, jianz, giuseppe, Bin_Hu, yosuke, ldaigle, mateuszk, mark_vickers, Paul_Higgs, wilkinm, BillRose, Zakim, RRSAgent, GlennDeen, timeless, kaz, richt,
16:18:21 <Zakim> ... MarkS, tobie, schuki, trackbot
16:19:03 <BillRose> Glenn: Examples of unique IDs/names - ISAN, EIDR
16:19:35 <BillRose> Glenn will ask for an expert to explain EIDR to the group
16:20:08 <BillRose> Glenn: Are there other specs for namespaces in use that we should examine?
16:20:08 <kaz> zakim, unmute me
16:20:09 <Zakim> Kazuyuki should no longer be muted
16:20:24 <kaz> zakim, who is speaking?
16:20:29 <Paul_Higgs> eidr info: http://eidr.org/technology/
16:20:36 <Zakim> kaz, listening for 10 seconds I could not identify any sounds
16:20:52 <BillRose> Ques: Do we think EIDR will meet our needs/can be extended to meet our needs?
16:21:40 <BillRose> EIDR does not address user generated content.
16:22:18 <BillRose> Glenn: Nothing precludes its use for user generated but it costs something to get an EIDR name.
16:22:34 <Paul_Higgs> VAST or IAB may have identifier formats
16:22:39 <BillRose> It was noted that the tools are geared to professional content.
16:23:21 <BillRose> Glenn: Which IAB? Answer: Advertising
16:23:49 <giuseppe> http://www.ad-id.org/
16:23:51 <kaz> [ Paul_Higgs, is that http://www.iab.net/guidelines/508676/digitalvideo/vsuite/vast ? ]
16:23:54 <BillRose> Glenn: Advertising uses ADID. Is anyone familiar wiht ADID? No response.
16:24:21 <giuseppe> http://www.ad-id.org/news-announcements/ad-id-announces-digital-video-ad-serving-template-integration-and-new-study
16:24:22 <kaz> s/wiht/with/
16:24:23 <BillRose> Glenn : Action Item: need to get more information on ADID
16:25:08 <Paul_Higgs> Yes Kaz
16:25:57 <BillRose> Glenn: Will need different namespaces for different types of content. Each may have different conventions for naming.
16:26:52 <BillRose> Glenn: Many naming conventions don't include format info e.g. H.264, H.265...
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16:27:41 <BillRose> ? noted that EIDR does have a means to identify formats using a cross relational list.
16:28:38 <BillRose> ? stated he does not believe format info is part of EIDR.
16:30:00 <BillRose> Glenn: Does anyone know what is used in e.g. China?
16:30:19 <kaz> s/? noted/Paul: note/
16:30:34 <kaz> s/? stated/Ques: states/
16:30:37 <Paul_Higgs> RFC 4078: The TV-Anytime Content Reference Identifier (CRID)
16:32:52 <BillRose> Zakim will post to IRC what is done in Japan.
16:33:04 <kaz> s/Zakim/Yosuke
16:33:22 <BillRose> Glenn: Would it be useful to get more info on MPEG DASH?
16:33:27 <BillRose> Ans: Yes
16:33:36 <Zakim> -Kazuyuki
16:33:44 <kaz> zakim, call kazuyuki-617
16:33:44 <Zakim> ok, kaz; the call is being made
16:33:45 <BillRose> Glenn will get additional info on MPEG DASH
16:33:45 <Zakim> +Kazuyuki
16:33:48 <Zakim> -Kazuyuki
16:33:52 <yosuke> [Yosuke: In Japan, some IPTV service providers use CRID and others use their own content ID schemes.]
16:33:58 <kaz> zakim, call kazuyuki-617
16:33:58 <Zakim> ok, kaz; the call is being made
16:34:00 <Zakim> +Kazuyuki
16:34:42 <BillRose> Glenn: Same question on HbbTV?  Also information on issues related to deployment of HbbTV, areas where we can help.
16:35:28 <BillRose> Giuseppe: Might be helpful to pose specific questions rather than open question
16:35:38 <yosuke> [yosuke: Additionally, there is a forum about the universally unique content ID scheme but the work has not bee adopted by the industry so far.]
16:35:40 <BillRose> Glenn: Agree
16:36:25 <yosuke> s/has not bee/has not been/
16:36:34 <mark_vickers> +1
16:36:40 <BillRose> Giuseppe: Might be better to wait until we have progressed further with our work and then reach out based on Use Cases.
16:37:22 <kaz> i/Same question on/[yosuke: Additionally, there is a forum about the universally unique content ID scheme but the work has not been adopted by the industry so far.]
16:38:43 <kaz> s/[yosuke: Additionally, there is a forum about the universally unique content ID scheme but the work has not bee adopted by the industry so far.]//
16:38:47 <BillRose> After discussion it was agreed we will move forward and generate specific questions as they arise
16:38:56 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:38:56 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/02/11-webtv-minutes.html kaz
16:39:41 <Paul_Higgs> I can answer some questions on HbbTV by e-mail
16:40:07 <BillRose> Glenn: Any other topic areas we should look at? None were given
16:42:51 <BillRose> Glenn/others: Will send out links used in the past for developing Use Case requirements. Anyone can add their use cases to the Wiki. Discuss on calls/meetings/email, edit, etc. Use template
16:43:16 <kaz> [ fyi, GGIE TF wiki is here: https://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/GGIE_TF ]
16:44:08 <kaz> [ and use case template: http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/New_Ideas ]
16:44:29 <kaz> topic: f2f planning
16:44:49 <Zakim> -Kazuyuki
16:45:05 <kaz> zakim, call kazuyuki-617
16:45:06 <Zakim> ok, kaz; the call is being made
16:45:06 <Zakim> +Kazuyuki
16:45:49 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:45:49 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/02/11-webtv-minutes.html kaz
16:46:13 <BillRose> Glenn: Propose informal meeting at upcoming IETF meeting. Will send info to the group
16:46:37 <giuseppe> https://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/GGIE_TF/UseCases
16:47:38 <Zakim> -??P15
16:47:38 <BillRose> Glenn: Keep meetings at 1.5 hours unless it proves to be too long.
16:47:39 <Zakim> -Mark_Vickers
16:47:39 <Zakim> - +1.908.848.aahh
16:47:43 <Zakim> -Bin_Hu
16:47:48 <ldaigle> thanks — bye!
16:47:48 <BillRose> Next Call: Feb 25, 2015
16:47:52 <Zakim> -Leslie_Daigle
16:47:53 <Zakim> -So_Vang
16:47:53 <Zakim> - +1.818.777.aadd
16:47:54 <Zakim> -Paul_Higgs
16:47:54 <Zakim> - +4871719aacc
16:47:55 <Zakim> - +8339aaee
16:47:57 <Zakim> -giuseppe
16:47:57 <Zakim> -yosuke
16:47:57 <Zakim> - +1.860.313.aabb
16:48:00 <Zakim> - +1.818.777.aaaa
16:48:09 <GlennDeen> thank you everyone
16:48:13 <kaz> zakim, who is here?
16:48:13 <Zakim> On the phone I see Kazuyuki
16:48:15 <Zakim> On IRC I see mark_vickers, PaulG, azamlerc, Bin_Hu, yosuke, ldaigle, Paul_Higgs, wilkinm, BillRose, Zakim, RRSAgent, GlennDeen, timeless, kaz, richt, MarkS, tobie, schuki, trackbot
16:48:19 <Zakim> -Kazuyuki
16:48:20 <Zakim> WEBT_GGIE TF()11:00AM has ended
16:48:20 <Zakim> Attendees were +1.818.777.aaaa, Kazuyuki, +1.860.313.aabb, Leslie_Daigle, +4871719aacc, +1.818.777.aadd, giuseppe, +8339aaee, +1.650.946.aaff, yosuke, +1.303.579.aagg, Bin_Hu,
16:48:20 <Zakim> ... So_Vang, Paul_Higgs, +1.908.848.aahh, Mark_Vickers
16:48:28 <Paul_Higgs> Paul_Higgs has left #webtv
16:48:31 <kaz> [ adjourned ]
16:48:31 <ldaigle> ldaigle has left #webtv
16:48:35 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:48:35 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/02/11-webtv-minutes.html kaz
16:48:38 <yosuke> yosuke has left #webtv
16:48:45 <kaz> rrsagent, stop