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16:59:42 <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
16:59:42 <trackbot> Date: 29 January 2015
16:59:57 <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has now started
17:00:05 <Zakim> +Sam
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17:01:17 <rubys> agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2015JanMar/0007.html
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17:02:42 <janina> zakim, ??P15 is me
17:02:42 <Zakim> +janina; got it
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17:02:54 <tantek> zakim, ??p19 is me
17:02:54 <Zakim> +tantek; got it
17:03:19 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
17:03:31 <paulc_> zakim, [Microsoft] is me
17:03:31 <Zakim> +paulc_; got it
17:04:00 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
17:04:12 <LJWatson> zakim, [IPcaller] is me
17:04:12 <Zakim> +LJWatson; got it
17:04:41 <LJWatson> scribenick LJWatson
17:04:51 <LJWatson> zakim, next item
17:04:51 <Zakim> I see nothing on the agenda
17:05:04 <rubys> agenda+ Open ACTION items
17:05:16 <rubys> agenda+ Items closed this week
17:05:34 <rubys> agenda+ Other business
17:05:43 <rubys> agenda+ Chair and Scribe for next meeting
17:05:49 <LJWatson> zakim, next item
17:05:49 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Open ACTION items" taken up [from rubys]
17:05:49 <tantek> re: 1a DOM bugs re: Document object - have not had the chance to talk with Boris about it.
17:05:57 <rubys> ACTION-254?
17:05:57 <trackbot> ACTION-254 -- Robin Berjon to Triage and prioritise DOM bugs based on incompatible tests (+XMLDocument#load) -- due 2014-12-19 -- OPEN
17:05:57 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/254
17:05:58 <Zakim> +Plh
17:06:26 <LJWatson> SR: One action on Robin.
17:06:35 <LJWatson> PLH: Robin is in Japan.
17:06:57 <LJWatson> zakim, next item
17:06:57 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Items closed this week" taken up [from rubys]
17:07:08 <LJWatson> SR: Had a F2F poll.
17:07:17 <rubys> http://intertwingly.net/tmp/w3c-spring-2015.html
17:07:35 <LJWatson> SR: Preference for Redmond in HTML, and preference for Zaragoza in WebApps.
17:08:02 <LJWatson> PLH: Suggestion to re-open the poll.
17:08:17 <LJWatson> PLH: Sam you thought co-location wasn't necessary?
17:08:32 <LJWatson> PLH: We co-located before because people asked for it.
17:08:40 <LJWatson> SR: Next steps?
17:08:50 <LJWatson> PLH: Would like feedback from WebApps chairs.
17:09:10 <LJWatson> zakim, next item
17:09:10 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Other business" taken up [from rubys]
17:09:31 <LJWatson> SR: Problem - Canvas work has stalled. Sent a note that's had two responses.
17:09:50 <LJWatson> PLH: Has been discussion about work that's required. Don't think there has been a conclusion.
17:09:58 <rubys> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-canvas-api/2015JanMar/0000.html
17:10:17 <LJWatson> PC: Where did that discussion happen?
17:10:30 <LJWatson> PLH: Judy, Rich and Janina have been discussing it I think.
17:10:34 <LJWatson> JS: Yes.
17:10:50 <LJWatson> JS: Part of the issue is to understand what's missing.
17:11:16 <LJWatson> PLH: Thought the issue was a lack of tests?
17:11:25 <rubys> https://www.w3.org/wiki/HTML/Canvas_Task_Force/CR-Test
17:11:27 <LJWatson> JS: Believe tests are done.
17:11:47 <LJWatson> SR: The wiki references hit regions.
17:12:15 <LJWatson> JS: Draw focus ring is the thing that's closest to ready.
17:12:24 <LJWatson> JS: Hit regions will take longer.
17:12:31 <LJWatson> PC: What's the status on the doc itself?
17:12:53 <LJWatson> SR: Next step is to return to LC.
17:13:13 <LJWatson> SR: We do that when we think it's ready. Need to look at whether things like hit region should remain.
17:13:31 <LJWatson> SR: We'll go with what the group discussing this comes up with.
17:13:52 <LJWatson> SR: Any other business?
17:13:54 <plh> http://w3c.github.io/webrtc-charter/webrtc-charter.html
17:15:00 <LJWatson> PLH: WebRTC charter - contains a lot of media APIs. We're defining the media interface, so we should be aware of this.
17:15:12 <LJWatson> PC: Is there a diff available?
17:15:43 <plh> http://services.w3.org/htmldiff?doc1=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2011%2F04%2Fwebrtc-charter.html&doc2=http%3A%2F%2Fw3c.github.io%2Fwebrtc-charter%2Fwebrtc-charter.html
17:15:54 <LJWatson> PLH: The deliverables have changed.
17:16:14 <LJWatson> PLH: Don't expect this group to do anything. This is just FYI.
17:16:36 <LJWatson> SR: Could you post that to WebApps and/or media sub-group?
17:16:40 <LJWatson> PLH: Yes.
17:16:56 <LJWatson> PC: Recc track deliverables, the media deliverables seem to be joint deliverables?
17:16:57 <rubys> s/to WebApps/to public-html/
17:17:01 <LJWatson> PLH: Yes.
17:17:20 <LJWatson> PC: So have these items been in existence for some time?
17:17:26 <LJWatson> PLH: It's possible.
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17:17:46 <LJWatson> PC: Editorially most things on the WebRTC scope are joint deliverables.
17:18:12 <LJWatson> PC: It makes sense for us to rationalise where media work is happening?
17:18:18 <LJWatson> PLH: Yes.
17:18:51 <LJWatson> PC: Has this taken the new streams into consideration?
17:18:55 <LJWatson> PLH: I don't know.
17:19:22 <LJWatson> rrsagent, make minutes
17:19:22 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/01/29-html-wg-minutes.html LJWatson
17:19:44 <LJWatson> PC: Looks like get user media doesn't reference the streams.
17:23:10 <tantek> what is the recent (HTML5) history behind keeping the <title> element as required? (as opposed to making it optional)
17:23:12 <rubys> Neither Sam nor Shane recall this being discussed in either the HTML WG or XHTML context
17:23:49 <tantek> second question was, appears that spec doesn't say what browsers should do if <title> element is missing, was that a deliberate omission, or just not discussed during HTML5?
17:24:29 <LJWatson> PLH: Searched bugzilla and nothing came up.
17:24:51 <LJWatson> PLH: Best approach would be to raise a bug.
17:25:18 <LJWatson> zakim, next item
17:25:18 <Zakim> agendum 4. "Chair and Scribe for next meeting" taken up [from rubys]
17:25:32 <LJWatson> SM: I'll scribe next time.
17:25:38 <LJWatson> rrsagent, make minuts
17:25:38 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'make minuts', LJWatson.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
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17:26:07 <Zakim> Attendees were Sam, ShaneM, janina, tantek, paulc_, LJWatson, Plh
17:26:46 <LJWatson> Chair: Sam
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