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13:41:17 <ivan> zakim, this will be 2742
13:41:17 <Zakim> ok, ivan; I see WAI_ARIA TF(ARIA)9:00AM scheduled to start in 19 minutes
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13:58:06 <Zakim> WAI_ARIA TF(ARIA)9:00AM has now started
13:58:13 <Zakim> +Tzviya
13:58:55 <mgylling> zakim, code?
13:58:55 <Zakim> the conference code is 2742 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), mgylling
13:59:30 <Zakim> +Markus
14:02:10 <Zakim> +ShaneM
14:02:37 <Zakim> +ivan
14:03:31 <mgylling> matt.garrish@bell.net
14:03:53 <tzviya> https://github.com/w3c/aria/blob/master/aria/dpub.html
14:04:49 <tzviya> scribenick: Tzviya
14:05:13 <tzviya> markus: added 4 glossary-related terms to module
14:05:44 <tzviya> ..."glossary" already exists, and we want to ensure that there aren't conflicts
14:06:05 <tzviya> ...there are relationships to EPUB vocabulary
14:06:23 <ShaneM> www.w3.org/respec
14:06:38 <tzviya> ...have qyestions about ReSpec and ARIA relationships
14:07:14 <tzviya> ...what are the differences between rref, aref. and href?
14:07:29 <tzviya> Shane: these are ARIA specific extensions
14:07:29 <ivan> s/href/eref/
14:07:45 <tzviya> ...rref allows you to reference a role in the parent document
14:07:59 <tzviya> aref is refence to an attribute
14:08:06 <tzviya> eref is refernce element
14:08:16 <tzviya> s/aref/...aref
14:08:24 <tzviya> s/eref/...eref
14:09:13 <tzviya> markus: for references to non-W3C specs (DAISY, EPUB), just use brackets
14:09:15 <ShaneM> [[shortname]]
14:09:33 <ShaneM> [[!normative]]
14:09:53 <tzviya> markus: other questions are pertaining to specifics of ARIA
14:10:45 <tzviya> ...example: where is namefrom field to come from?
14:12:10 <Zakim> +Rich_Schwerdtfeger
14:12:36 <tzviya> shaneM: these should not be author usually
14:12:46 <tzviya> markus: super class roles?
14:13:00 <tzviya> ShaneM: they are in the wiki now
14:13:31 <tzviya> ...Glossary is a subclass of section (maybe)
14:13:43 <tzviya> markus: it could be landmark
14:15:20 <tzviya> shaneM: glossterm relies on aria 1.1's addition of terms
14:16:52 <ShaneM> https://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/DPUBVocabulary
14:17:05 <tzviya> ...the parent role of glossdef should really be dfn, so the the role should really just fall out
14:17:43 <tzviya> markus: existing xhtml classes?
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14:18:01 <richardschwerdtfeger> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1498
14:18:08 <richardschwerdtfeger> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/657
14:18:22 <richardschwerdtfeger> http://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/aria/dpub.html
14:18:53 <tzviya> shaneM: we can push a better defintiion into the document
14:19:33 <tzviya> markus: I left out a lot of fields, bc I don't know the best way to figure out how to fill this out
14:19:55 <tzviya> ShaneM: there is a processing script that will grab info based on parent roles
14:20:10 <tzviya> tzviya: which fields do we need to fill?
14:20:47 <tzviya> ShaneM: I will email list with list of fields that are magically populated
14:21:49 <tzviya> Rich: if glossterm and dfn and term do we need glossterm?
14:22:13 <tzviya> markus: this is a similar question to container elements
14:23:47 <tzviya> ShaneM: with regard to plurals/container elements: in reSpec, can define aliases
14:24:01 <tzviya> ...so alias of "phone" can be "phones"
14:25:09 <tzviya> Rich: We should explain the usage contexts in which these terms might be used (e.g. a glossary might not be a stand-alone glossary)
14:25:49 <tzviya> ShaneM: is it your vision that glossterm/glossdef can exist outside of glossary?
14:26:20 <tzviya> tzviya: i'm fine with providing usage examples, but they get old very quickly
14:26:57 <tzviya> rich: just state that a glossary does not have to live in a stand alone section
14:27:33 <tzviya> Markus: Let's try to get a first ed draft out, and then do some intelligent thinking about usage
14:27:52 <tzviya> ...we need to know which fields are generated
14:28:09 <tzviya> ...so that we can move forward with adding the information
14:28:41 <tzviya> ShaneM: We are breaking new ground here, so there will be some birthing pains
14:30:13 <tzviya> ... all the inherited elements are automatically populated.
14:30:24 <tzviya> ...Local elements must be entered.
14:31:10 <Zakim> -Markus
14:38:45 <tzviya> shaneM: note is a reasonable parent of footnote
14:38:46 <ShaneM> A section whose content is parenthetic or ancillary to the main content of the resource.
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14:41:40 <tzviya> shaneM: there might be an obvious parent role, but we need to refine states
14:42:07 <tzviya> ...and clarify interactivity
14:43:37 <tzviya> ...Do "question" and "answer" imply interactivity?
14:43:52 <tzviya> tzviya: these are made to go either way
14:45:37 <tzviya> shaneM: parent roles will provide states depending on whether these are interactives
14:46:10 <tzviya> Rich: are these containers or specific types of questions?
14:47:21 <tzviya> tzviya: in EPUB vocab, there are more details about the types of questions (e.g. multiple choice)
14:48:04 <tzviya> ...we just went with generic question and answer roles
14:48:37 <tzviya> rich: if it's a multiple choice question, can there be multiple UIs for this area?
14:49:03 <tzviya> tzviya: yes
14:50:11 <ShaneM> The component of a self-assessment problem that provides the answer to the question.
14:51:48 <tzviya> ShaneM: clarify definition of answer - unclear if is answer for teacher, student, etc
14:52:10 <tzviya> Rich: invite Mark H from ETS to discuss how to handle
14:53:42 <tzviya> ...we need to understand how the interactive elements work
14:54:56 <tzviya> Tzviya: We will get the writing started first and then bring Mark in
14:55:41 <tzviya> Rich: we need to understand how the education and testing stuff will work in an interactive way
14:56:20 <tzviya> shaneM: the answer might be that the "answer" element is just a container
14:56:57 <tzviya> Rich: APIP is something that IMS is working on to deliver content in the form that you need
14:58:00 <tzviya> http://www.imsglobal.org/question/
14:58:40 <Zakim> -Tzviya
14:58:43 <Zakim> -Rich_Schwerdtfeger
14:58:48 <Zakim> -ShaneM
14:58:48 <Zakim> -ivan
14:58:48 <Zakim> WAI_ARIA TF(ARIA)9:00AM has ended
14:58:48 <Zakim> Attendees were Tzviya, Markus, ShaneM, ivan, Rich_Schwerdtfeger
14:59:00 <ivan> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:59:00 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/01/29-dpub-aria-minutes.html ivan
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