20:58:56 RRSAgent has joined #webfonts 20:58:56 logging to http://www.w3.org/2015/01/28-webfonts-irc 20:58:58 RRSAgent, make logs world 20:58:58 Zakim has joined #webfonts 20:59:00 Zakim, this will be 3668 20:59:00 ok, trackbot; I see IA_Fonts()4:00PM scheduled to start in 1 minute 20:59:01 Meeting: WebFonts Working Group Teleconference 20:59:01 Date: 28 January 2015 20:59:42 IA_Fonts()4:00PM has now started 20:59:49 + +1.978.790.aaaa 20:59:55 +??P2 21:00:12 RSheeter has joined #webfonts 21:01:16 zakim, aaaa is me 21:01:16 +Vlad; got it 21:02:13 jfkthame has joined #webfonts 21:03:05 +jfkthame 21:03:21 j_hudson has joined #webfonts 21:04:15 + +1.250.668.aabb 21:05:36 zakim, aabb is j_hudson 21:05:36 +j_hudson; got it 21:06:01 Regrets: ChrisL, Raph 21:06:37 scribenick: RSheeter 21:07:09 topic: Action Items 21:08:03 action-116 21:08:03 action-116 -- David Kuettel to Decoder performance analysis on mobile devices -- due 2015-01-31 -- OPEN 21:08:03 http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/116 21:08:25 DK: Chrome is implementing a UMA; will hit stable early Q2 and then we start getting data 21:08:52 action-129 21:08:52 action-129 -- David Kuettel to Prepare a mime type application draft and justification for top-level "font" registration (with Vlad) -- due 2015-01-31 -- OPEN 21:08:52 http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/129 21:09:39 DK has gathered data to support proposal. Will attempt to send proposal next week. 21:10:57 action-133 21:10:57 action-133 -- Raph Levien to Review the spec edits and finalize the definition of the "nominal size" -- due 2015-01-14 -- OPEN 21:10:57 http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/133 21:11:00 No update 21:11:10 action-146 21:11:10 action-146 -- Chris Lilley to Use ietf-w3c liaison to get review and guidance for next steps on brotli id -- due 2015-01-14 -- OPEN 21:11:10 http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/146 21:11:13 No news 21:11:25 action-148 21:11:25 action-148 -- Vladimir Levantovsky to Review and edit the conformance test for extraneous data -- due 2015-01-14 -- OPEN 21:11:25 http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/148 21:11:28 No changes 21:11:39 action-153 21:11:39 action-153 -- Raph Levien to Work with vlad to clarify all uses of original length -- due 2015-01-14 -- OPEN 21:11:39 http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/153 21:11:44 Depends on nominal size 21:11:53 action-155 21:11:54 action-155 -- Vladimir Levantovsky to Clarify handling of checksum in a font collection -- due 2015-01-14 -- OPEN 21:11:54 http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/155 21:12:45 Vlad: assumption is that only head in the first font is accurate, and is for the first font alone. 21:13:01 action-156 21:13:01 action-156 -- Raph Levien to Draft spec update for ttc support -- due 2015-01-14 -- OPEN 21:13:01 http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/156 21:13:09 Draft provided, discussion later on 21:13:20 action-157 21:13:20 action-157 -- Vladimir Levantovsky to Find out what table ordering mtx applies prior to compression -- due 2015-01-14 -- OPEN 21:13:20 http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/157 21:13:42 Vlad: didn't find code; suggests wasn't helpful 21:14:41 close 157 21:14:49 close action-157 21:14:49 Closed action-157. 21:14:56 action-158 21:14:56 action-158 -- Roderick Sheeter to Inquire with brotli crew about whether re-ordering input is likely to help or not -- due 2015-01-14 -- OPEN 21:14:56 http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/158 21:15:06 kuettel has joined #webfonts 21:15:17 Rod: I checked, they suggested it wasn't likely to make much difference 21:15:31 close action-158 21:15:31 Closed action-158. 21:15:52 action-159 21:15:52 action-159 -- David Kuettel to Motivate raph :d -- due 2015-01-14 -- OPEN 21:15:52 http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/159 21:16:11 :D 21:16:25 topic: TTC Spec Changes 21:19:39 Vlad: indexes are easier to screw up than offsets, have to be careful here 21:22:41 (discussion of offsets and indices) 21:30:23 Tl;dr Need to clarify what encoder and decoder should do wrt table directory ordering and CollectionFontEntry indexes, potential for confusion 21:31:27 Vlad: we should have a separate section with more detail on how this is encoded, and the decoder will fall out of that 21:32:49 Data type for table directory indices could be 255UInt16 instead of UInt16; saves N_fonts *N_table_entries bytes in most cases (50% of those bytes) 21:33:24 (agreed) 21:34:03 Everyone: review TTC spec, suggest tweaks/improvements 21:34:48 Vlad: Tests for TTC require spec to be nailed down 21:35:44 Topic: CTS 21:36:05 -??P2 21:36:19 I fear we have disconnected ourselves; one moment :D 21:36:37 +??P2 21:37:33 Khaled confirmed working on CTS 21:37:51 DK: Would we like to try to have Khaled join calls? (if schedule works) 21:38:34 Vlad: Yes, particularly as we get more into CTS details. He is confirmed as an invited expert. 21:38:46 Rod: Will ping Khaled 21:39:13 action to rsheeter Invite Khaled to attend conference calls 21:39:13 Error finding 'to'. You can review and register nicknames at . 21:39:22 action rsheeter Invite Khaled to attend conference calls 21:39:22 Created ACTION-160 - Invite khaled to attend conference calls [on Roderick Sheeter - due 2015-02-04]. 21:40:16 All are encouraged to try out the tests @ https://github.com/rsheeter/woff2-ttc 21:40:43 sorry, https://github.com/w3c/woff2-tests rather 21:43:07 Topic: How TTC Actually Works 21:43:21 (discussion of how some of spec is a bit gray, can we get more information of how it is used in the wild) 21:44:30 Topic: Last Call for Topics 21:44:38 DK: Mark Adler has started review of the Brotli spec 21:45:41 DK: He will be writing a decoder from scratch, based purely on the spec, in github. Will provide link later, provided no objections surface. 21:47:01 zakim, list attendees 21:47:01 As of this point the attendees have been +1.978.790.aaaa, Vlad, jfkthame, +1.250.668.aabb, j_hudson 21:47:03 -jfkthame 21:47:03 -j_hudson 21:47:12 rrsagent, make minutes 21:47:12 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/01/28-webfonts-minutes.html Vlad 21:47:22 -Vlad 21:47:36 -??P2 21:47:37 IA_Fonts()4:00PM has ended 21:47:37 Attendees were +1.978.790.aaaa, Vlad, jfkthame, +1.250.668.aabb, j_hudson 21:47:53 that's the magic command! 21:48:10 Rod, use this link to get plain text: http://www.w3.org/2015/01/28-webfonts-minutes.html,text 21:52:33 jfkthame has left #webfonts