20:58:53 RRSAgent has joined #dpub 20:58:53 logging to http://www.w3.org/2015/01/23-dpub-irc 20:58:55 zakim, room for 7? 20:58:57 sorry, dkaplan3; could not schedule an adhoc conference; passcode overlap; if you do not have a fixed code you may try again 21:01:17 jeanne has joined #dpub 21:01:26 zakim, who is here? 21:01:26 sorry, dkaplan3, I don't know what conference this is 21:01:28 On IRC I see jeanne, RRSAgent, Zakim, clapierre, dauwhe, Karen, astearns, iank__, liam, mihnea_____, dkaplan3, rego, plinss, trackbot 21:02:42 zakim, this is dPub Accessibility 21:02:42 sorry, jeanne, I do not see a conference named 'dPub Accessibility' in progress or scheduled at this time 21:03:30 zakim, this is DPub_Dpub 21:03:30 ok, jeanne; that matches DPUB_DPUB A1()4:00PM 21:03:39 rrsagent, make logs public 21:04:14 http://www.w3.org/2001/12/zakim-irc-bot.html 21:04:40 zakim, who is on the phone? 21:04:40 On the phone I see +1.339.203.aaaa, +1.415.400.aabb, +1.408.979.aacc, Jeanne 21:04:59 zakim, aaaa is Deborah 21:04:59 +Deborah; got it 21:05:06 zakim, aacc is me 21:05:08 +clapierre; got it 21:05:13 zakim, aabb is Mia 21:05:13 +Mia; got it 21:05:22 zakim, who is on the phone? 21:05:22 On the phone I see Deborah, Mia, clapierre, Jeanne 21:05:37 rrsagent, make logs public 21:06:30 rrsagent, make minutes 21:06:30 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/01/23-dpub-minutes.html jeanne 21:07:07 Meeting: DPub Accessibility 21:07:15 Chair: Charles, Deborah 21:08:08 scribenick: jeanne 21:09:14 https://github.com/w3c/dpub-accessibility/wiki 21:09:50 Charles: Table of contents that breaks down wCAG techniques, same for UAAG and ATAG 21:09:50 +Liam 21:10:10 ... focusing on WCAG techniques. 21:10:19 ... which are relevant to dPub 21:10:27 ... there are two links for every section 21:10:44 ... WCAG Technique, and dPub technique 21:11:07 ... the dPub link links to a google doc sheet 21:12:44 CL: last week, George Kershner and I were on the phone and we went through the general techniques 21:12:56 ... we worked together 21:13:18 ... G174-end I assigned to myself. I got to G186 before this call. 21:14:20 Jeanne: the mobile group went through a very similar process 21:15:34 Jeanne: It's hard to identify the things that are missing, encourage people to write down the items that are missing 21:17:12 Mia: Screenreader problems: I can only see a few columns, the headings are not preserved, so I have to memorize the column headings. 21:17:32 Deborah: I have problems with Dragon with Google doc as well 21:18:10 Mia: I am looking at Failure Techniques and I don't know what they are referring to. 21:18:44 ... the quickest thing for me would be to work in my own tools and enter it later. 21:19:24 Charles: I was looking techniques up in the WCAG Techniques page and doing the running around 21:19:41 Mia: That is the problem with collaborative tools, they don't work well for accessibility 21:20:22 ... if there is a factor keeping me from finishing by next week, this will be it. 21:20:42 Deborah: would transforming it to another format help? 21:20:55 Mia: No, it is clunky but I can deal with it. 21:21:28 [discussion of Jaws problems] 21:22:13 -Liam 21:22:16 +Liam 21:23:54 Charles: I don't think we will stay in Google docs for long. It was just a way to get the data in one place quickly. 21:24:18 ... people were saying that Google docs was getting better, and did work with screenreaders,. 21:24:34 Mia: It does seem better 21:25:26 Liam: I didn't know things were assigned to me and I haven't seen that. 21:25:39 ... I did go through some of the spreadsheet 21:26:06 Charles: we are asking people to look through and do 40 items by next week 21:26:15 ... it looks like Liam has already done his part. 21:26:23 zakim, who is on the phone? 21:26:23 On the phone I see Deborah, Mia, clapierre, Jeanne, Liam 21:26:47 Liam: I only marked the ones where I was confident of my opinion. 21:27:00 Charles: We don't expect everyone to know everything. 21:27:30 Deborah: I expect that none of us are experts in Silverlight and Flash techniques 21:27:51 Charles: I don't think we would have Flash or Silverlight techniques in dPub 21:28:03 Deborah: Maybe Flash 21:30:12 UAAG 2.0 editor's draft <- http://w3c.github.io/UAAG/UAAG20/ 21:30:36 Jeanne: I recommend using UAAG 2.0. UAAG 1.0 is very out of date 21:31:07 ATAG 2.0 <- http://www.w3.org/TR/ATAG20/ 21:34:58 Charles: I will put the success criteria from ATAG and UAAG in the chart. 21:35:29 http://w3c.github.io/UAAG/UAAG20-Reference/ 21:38:02 jeanne: UAAG Reference document has a section for each success criteria "typically applies to" where you could search for "readers". The working group already flagged each success criteria that they thought applied to dPub readers. 21:41:36 rrsagent, make minutes 21:41:36 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/01/23-dpub-minutes.html jeanne 21:42:23 present+ Deborah, Mia, clapierre, Jeanne, Liam 21:42:38 rrsagent, make minutes 21:42:38 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/01/23-dpub-minutes.html jeanne 21:44:00 -Deborah 21:44:00 -Liam 21:44:01 -Mia 21:44:02 -clapierre 21:44:24 Charles: Jeanne, Mia, George will be at CSUN, Charles and Deborah are maybe 21:44:40 rrsagent, make minutes 21:44:40 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/01/23-dpub-minutes.html jeanne 21:46:50 good question 21:46:54 probably myself 21:46:57 -Jeanne 21:46:58 DPUB_DPUB A1()4:00PM has ended 21:46:58 Attendees were +1.339.203.aaaa, +1.415.400.aabb, +1.408.979.aacc, Jeanne, Deborah, clapierre, Mia, Liam 21:47:00 charlesl@benetech.org 21:47:17 W3C Digital Publishing IG with [A11Y Ttask force] in the subject maybe? 21:48:08 that works too. :) 21:53:51 clapierre has left #dpub 22:09:46 jeanne2 has joined #dpub 23:34:18 dauwhe has joined #dpub