19:52:32 RRSAgent has joined #tagmem 19:52:32 logging to http://www.w3.org/2015/01/22-tagmem-irc 19:52:34 RRSAgent, make logs public 19:52:34 Zakim has joined #tagmem 19:52:36 Zakim, this will be TAG 19:52:36 ok, trackbot; I see TAG_Weekly()3:00PM scheduled to start in 8 minutes 19:52:37 Meeting: Technical Architecture Group Teleconference 19:52:37 Date: 22 January 2015 19:53:21 plinss has changed the topic to: Agenda: https://github.com/w3ctag/meetings/blob/gh-pages/2015/telcons/01-22-https-agenda.md Call bridge: Zakim #0824 19:55:23 Will be a few minutes late. Apologies. 19:58:20 zakim, what is the code? 19:58:20 the conference code is 0824 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), dka 19:58:52 TAG_Weekly()3:00PM has now started 19:58:59 +plinss 20:01:13 +dka 20:02:00 mnot has joined #tagmem 20:02:43 + +29008aaaa 20:02:49 + +1.408.505.aabb 20:02:50 zakim, aaaa is me 20:02:50 +mnot; got it 20:03:09 +Yves 20:03:16 zakim, aabb is Yan 20:03:16 +Yan; got it 20:03:57 + +1.408.355.aacc 20:04:06 Zakim, aacc is me 20:04:06 +Domenic; got it 20:04:13 zakim, who is here? 20:04:13 On the phone I see plinss, dka, mnot, Yan, Yves, Domenic 20:04:15 On IRC I see mnot, Zakim, RRSAgent, yan, dka, wycats____, projector, Domenic, slightlyoff, dherman, plinss, Yves, trackbot 20:05:08 zakim, pick a victim 20:05:08 Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose dka 20:05:56 Scribe: Dan 20:06:00 ScribeNick: DKA 20:06:01 I seem to have Bluetooth 20:06:07 oh oik 20:06:37 Topic: “Securing the Web” / https finding 20:06:51 Mark: we’ve had a bunch of discussion. Right now, no bugs listed against the spec. 20:06:58 … last commits were a couple of days ago. 20:07:36 https://w3ctag.github.io/web-https/ 20:07:57 https://github.com/w3ctag/web-https/commits/gh-pages 20:08:05 Mark: I added a link to STRINT, changed some wording, [made some minor fixes…] 20:08:54 Peter: ready to be published as a finding? 20:09:06 darobin has joined #tagmem 20:09:39 +1 on publishing as a finding 20:09:40 Domenic: I feel very comfortable. 20:09:46 +1 on publishing 20:09:49 Yan: looks good 20:09:55 Peter: I’m also in favor 20:10:13 Mark: [in favor] 20:10:24 Resolved: publish the “securing the web” draft as a finding. 20:10:41 s/finding/approved finding. 20:10:47 http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/promises-guide 20:12:15 https://tag.w3.org/findings/ 20:12:29 We do have a sub-domain - tag.w3.org - 20:13:00 NB: We need to clean up our multiple web presences now…. 20:13:12 rel="canonical" 20:13:15 Mark: will draft a blog post - send around on member list. 20:13:34 Peter: can you take the respec output? 20:13:44 Mark: yes except for boiler plate, title, etc... 20:13:57 … everything from toc below is ready to go. 20:14:02 Ok then! 20:16:25 Dan: some issues with the mailing list chatter ... 20:16:49 Mark: I’m happy with what we talked about in NYC - the mailing list is “best efforts” the main tracking and work goes on in github... 20:17:08 … right now it’s a free-for-all where people who have ideas on web architecture can riff on whatever they want… 20:17:34 … might be better to say “this list is about the work of the TAG, not general web architecture issues”... 20:17:54 Domenic: I think the list is not useful - if it’s a free for all then it’s name is misleading... 20:18:21 Mark: Making a decision here is important. if TAG memebrs don’t participate there then not effective... 20:18:37 here now 20:19:26 +??P4 20:19:30 that's me 20:19:32 thanks yves 20:20:09 Zakim, P4 is slightlyoff 20:20:09 sorry, mnot, I do not recognize a party named 'P4' 20:20:19 Zakim, ??P4 is slightlyoff 20:20:19 +slightlyoff; got it 20:21:21 have we outlined *why* we pay attention to what we pay attention to? 20:23:00 Mark: we should say that we’re open to people raising issues but the discussion needs to happen amongst the TAG members… 20:23:24 Domenic: A message about “does chrome support ftp any more” just should never have made it to the list. 20:24:11 Alex: I don’t like the idea of a private mailing list. It’s good that our work is transparent. What should demand our attention 20:24:41 … is the question we’re dealing wiht. We have private list, public list, github issues. A good strategy would be to deflect all substantive 20:24:47 … discssion to github issues. 20:25:04 Mark: I’m wary of that because if we push it to github issues then we have to dispose of the issue. 20:25:24 Alex: we could easily go through issues and close them… 20:26:26 Alex: [something diplomatic] 20:27:21 Yah: I think if we want to get rid of the expectation that we’ll reply to them we can say : if you have an issue you want us to address please add it to github. 20:27:29 s/Yah/Yan 20:27:41 Mark: We had someone on the list try to impose consensus on the TAG. 20:28:23 Alex: we should have a note - say something like “the TAG mailing list is for discussion but the appropriate place to raise formal issues or suggest new work is on our github issue tracker…” 20:28:32 (slight re-write by DKA) 20:28:53 I like that. 20:28:59 Mark: Agreed 20:29:04 Peter: Sounds reasonable. 20:29:15 we still need to monitor the list, as not everyone will get the memo 20:29:23 Mark: Note should be publisged on the tag front page... 20:29:33 Alex: should put something on the mailing list as well. 20:30:01 Peter: Maybe edit the mailman cover page... 20:31:12 :) 20:31:18 Peter: AOB? 20:31:29 Alex: Consensus about the note? 20:31:50 Alex: I would like to add my enthusiastic and full support to that resolution. 20:32:14 https://github.com/w3ctag/wiki/wiki 20:32:31 Mark: I created a new repo which I’ve found useful in other places - a wiki unattached to other repos... 20:32:39 … just an experiment. 20:32:57 Peter: which repo should people be filing issues in? 20:33:01 Mark: a suggestions repo? 20:33:08 Domenic: [+1] 20:33:28 Mark: I’ll give it a stab - a note about the mailing list… 20:34:08 Peter: AOB? 20:34:25 I'm OOO (vacation) next week 20:36:20 Possibly packaging for next week... 20:36:29 -dka 20:36:31 -Domenic 20:36:33 -Yves 20:36:34 -plinss 20:36:34 -slightlyoff 20:36:36 -mnot 20:36:43 -Yan 20:36:44 TAG_Weekly()3:00PM has ended 20:36:44 Attendees were plinss, dka, +29008aaaa, +1.408.505.aabb, mnot, Yves, Yan, +1.408.355.aacc, Domenic, slightlyoff 20:36:45 rrsagent, draft minutes 20:36:45 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/01/22-tagmem-minutes.html dka 20:36:51 rrsagent, make logs public 20:36:51 +1 for packaging next week 21:29:11 darobin has joined #tagmem 22:23:34 darobin has joined #tagmem