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16:58:14 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be html_wg
16:58:14 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see HTML_WG()12:00PM scheduled to start in 2 minutes
16:58:15 <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
16:58:16 <trackbot> Date: 22 January 2015
16:58:16 <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has now started
16:58:23 <Zakim> +Sam
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16:58:39 <paulc> trackbot, start meeting
16:58:41 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
16:58:43 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be html_wg
16:58:43 <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see HTML_WG()12:00PM already started
16:58:44 <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
16:58:44 <trackbot> Date: 22 January 2015
16:58:59 <paulc> zakim, what is the meeting code?
16:58:59 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, paulc.
16:59:06 <paulc> zakim, meeting code?
16:59:06 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, paulc.
16:59:17 <tantek> Zakim, this is HTML
16:59:17 <Zakim> HTML matches both HTML_WG()12:00PM and WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)10:00AM, tantek
16:59:24 <tantek> Zakim, this is HTML_WG
16:59:24 <Zakim> tantek, this was already HTML_WG()12:00PM
16:59:26 <Zakim> ok, tantek; that matches HTML_WG()12:00PM
16:59:38 <tantek> zakim, code?
16:59:38 <Zakim> the conference code is 4865 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), tantek
17:00:31 <paulc> zakim is not answering the phone
17:00:34 <rubys> agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2015JanMar/0006.html
17:00:38 <rubys> I'm on
17:01:22 <Zakim> +??P13
17:01:24 <tantek> zakim, ??p13 is me
17:01:25 <Zakim> +tantek; got it
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17:02:02 <Zakim> +??P1
17:02:09 <janina> zakim, ??P1 is me
17:02:09 <Zakim> +janina; got it
17:02:23 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
17:02:23 <Zakim> +Plh
17:02:31 <paulc> MSFT VOIP will not ring Zakim's phone number.
17:02:58 <rubys> paulc: let me know if I should chair.
17:03:18 <paulc> You should start without me once you have critical mass.  I will keep trying to phone in.
17:03:51 <paulc> If the meeting starts without me I may try on my cell phone.  But I don't want to Chair if I am using my cell phone.  Thanks Sam.
17:04:21 <plh> scribe: plh
17:04:33 <plh> Topic: Open action
17:04:36 <plh> action-249?
17:04:36 <trackbot> action-249 -- Robin Berjon to Triage new whatwg updates, html bugs, landscape document in order to list priority content for modules -- due 2015-01-15 -- OPEN
17:04:36 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/249
17:05:02 <plh> action-253?
17:05:03 <trackbot> action-253 -- Robin Berjon to File bugs on implementors re: html json form submission -- due 2015-01-23 -- OPEN
17:05:03 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/253
17:05:07 <Zakim> +[IPcaller.a]
17:05:32 <plh> action-254?
17:05:33 <trackbot> action-254 -- Robin Berjon to Triage and prioritise DOM bugs based on incompatible tests (+XMLDocument#load) -- due 2014-12-19 -- OPEN
17:05:33 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/254
17:06:16 <Zakim> + +1.613.295.aaaa
17:06:34 <paulc> zakim, [aaaa] is paulc
17:06:34 <Zakim> sorry, paulc, I do not recognize a party named '[aaaa]'
17:06:36 <plh> action-254: this is pending implementors feedback
17:06:36 <trackbot> Notes added to action-254 Triage and prioritise DOM bugs based on incompatible tests (+XMLDocument#load).
17:06:42 <paulc> zakim, aaaa is me
17:06:43 <Zakim> +paulc; got it
17:07:03 <plh> plh: an other strategy could be to raise bugs
17:07:15 <plh> robin: if we can divide the work
17:08:22 <Zakim> +ShaneM
17:08:24 <plh> robin: boris is one of the few people who answered
17:08:40 <plh> ... and gecko is the engine that has the fewest issues on the list
17:09:02 <plh> ... for mozilla, it's bug related to document object in various context
17:09:10 <tantek> is that this email? https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2015Jan/0000.html
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17:10:31 <darobin> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=22960
17:10:44 <darobin> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=19431
17:10:58 <plh> Robin: if we could address those bugs, that would be improvements
17:11:12 <plh> Paul: I just pinged travis again
17:11:28 <plh> Tantek: are those implementation bugs?
17:11:52 <plh> Robin: or spec bugs. no consensus on what to do in the spec because of lack of interop
17:12:11 <plh> ... Anne proposed a solution but if no one is going to do the fix
17:12:34 <plh> Tantek: is there a place to look at?
17:12:39 <plh> Robin: in those 2 bugs
17:13:06 <plh> Tantek: I can ping Boris on this
17:13:42 <plh> Robin: getting interop on the document object would be useful
17:13:47 <rubys> I added the two bugs to action-254
17:13:53 <plh> ... other bugs are more minor
17:14:15 <plh> action-249?
17:14:15 <trackbot> action-249 -- Robin Berjon to Triage new whatwg updates, html bugs, landscape document in order to list priority content for modules -- due 2015-01-15 -- OPEN
17:14:15 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/249
17:14:35 <plh> Robin: for this one, I was going to provide an update step by step
17:14:48 <darobin> https://github.com/darobin/spork
17:15:04 <plh> ... first step is to build the html spec again
17:15:13 <plh> ... while handling synchronization nicely
17:15:25 <plh> ... the tool is not ready for prime time but it works
17:15:48 <plh> ... this will automate a lot of the work we had to do by hand
17:16:03 <plh> ... we should be able to publish the html spec on a regular basis
17:16:19 <plh> ... hoping to have a fair amount of time next week
17:17:27 <plh> Robin: first step is to update html 5.1
17:18:02 <plh> ... to make the landscape document more maintainable
17:18:09 <plh> ... it will be generate from the tool as well
17:18:30 <plh> action-253?
17:18:31 <trackbot> action-253 -- Robin Berjon to File bugs on implementors re: html json form submission -- due 2015-01-23 -- OPEN
17:18:31 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/253
17:19:01 <plh> Topic: Spring f2f location
17:19:03 <rubys> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/249
17:19:12 <rubys> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/40318/html-spring-2015/
17:20:36 <plh> plh: please fill the poll
17:21:38 <tantek> just answered the HTMLWG poll
17:22:40 <plh> Topic: A11y Task Force
17:23:01 <plh> Janina: moving forward on new features for HTML: redesigh of accesskey, traqnscript
17:23:21 <plh> ... there is wishlist of things that might get attention
17:23:52 <plh> ... and the Group waits for Director's decsion on longdesc
17:23:58 <plh> Topic: Media Task Force
17:24:05 <plh> Paul: continuing discussion on EME
17:24:08 <plh> ... high 20 bugs
17:24:28 <plh> ... some folks appealed to finalize the naming bugs
17:24:35 <plh> ... and we did so on Tuesday morning
17:24:54 <plh> ... we're now ready to publish heartbeats for EME and MSE
17:25:24 <plh> ... slow progress overall
17:25:56 <plh> Topic: Canvas task force
17:26:00 <plh> Sam: stalled on testing
17:26:12 <plh> ... need to figure out next steps
17:26:26 <plh> ... we have implementations but we're short on tests
17:26:35 <plh> ... Mark is busy elsewhere
17:27:31 <plh> Topic: Editing task force
17:27:54 <plh> Robin: not much happened in past two weeks
17:28:05 <plh> ... question from Charles on accesskey and keyboard navigation
17:28:46 <plh> Topic: Other business
17:29:01 <plh> [none]
17:29:05 <plh> Topic: Next week meeting
17:29:26 <plh> Sam will chair next week
17:30:07 <plh> Regrets from Robin
17:30:44 <Zakim> -ShaneM
17:30:48 <plh> Leonie volunteered to scribe
17:31:12 <Zakim> -[IPcaller]
17:31:14 <Zakim> -[IPcaller.a]
17:31:16 <Zakim> -tantek
17:31:17 <Zakim> -Sam
17:31:17 <Zakim> -paulc
17:31:19 <Zakim> -Plh
17:31:25 <Zakim> -janina
17:31:27 <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has ended
17:31:27 <Zakim> Attendees were Sam, tantek, janina, [IPcaller], Plh, +1.613.295.aaaa, paulc, ShaneM
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