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18:03:02 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
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18:03:04 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be SOCL
18:03:04 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see T&S_SOCWG()1:00PM scheduled to start 3 minutes ago
18:03:05 <trackbot> Meeting: Social Web Working Group Teleconference
18:03:05 <trackbot> Date: 13 January 2015
18:03:12 <aaronpk> Zakim, who is on the call?
18:03:12 <Zakim> T&S_SOCWG()1:00PM has not yet started, aaronpk
18:03:13 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, Lloyd_Fassett, danbri, bblfish, jasnell_, AnnBassetti, eprodrom, tantek, shepazu_away, Arnaud, KevinMarks, rhiaro_, wilkie, Morbus, cwebber2, pdurbin,
18:03:13 <Zakim> ... bigbluehat, JakeHart, mattl, bret, Loqi, zz_nickstenn, oshepherd, rektide_, dwhly, kylewm, Tsyesika, jessica_lily, aaronpk, trackbot, sandro, wseltzer
18:03:20 <Arnaud> zakim, this is socl
18:03:20 <Zakim> ok, Arnaud; that matches T&S_SOCWG()1:00PM
18:03:28 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
18:03:29 <Arnaud> Zakim, who is on the phone?
18:03:29 <Zakim> On the phone I see jasnell, eprodrom, Arnaud, ??P5, +1.541.410.aaaa, aaronpk, ??P0, ??P9, Sandro, [IPcaller]
18:03:39 <Zakim> -??P0
18:03:47 <tantek> Zakim, mute ??P5
18:03:48 <Zakim> ??P5 should now be muted
18:03:55 <Zakim> +Ann
18:04:04 <tantek> Zakim, mute ??P9
18:04:04 <Zakim> ??P9 should now be muted
18:04:19 <tantek> since you can't hear me, I'm P9 :)
18:04:26 <tantek> zakim, ??p9 is me
18:04:26 <Zakim> +tantek; got it
18:04:30 <tantek> zakim, unmute me
18:04:30 <Zakim> tantek should no longer be muted
18:04:43 <cwebber2> zakim, ??P5 is me
18:04:43 <Zakim> +cwebber2; got it
18:04:45 <harry> harry has joined #social
18:04:46 <aaronpk> tantek++
18:04:48 <Loqi> tantek has 139 karma
18:04:49 <Zakim> +??P10
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18:04:52 <cwebber2> -q ??P5
18:05:31 <tantek> scribenick AnnBassetti
18:05:42 <tantek> Zakim, who is scribing?
18:05:42 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, tantek.
18:05:50 <sandro> scribenick: AnnBassetti
18:05:50 <tantek> scribenick: AnnBassetti
18:06:13 <tantek> zakim, who is here?
18:06:13 <Zakim> On the phone I see jasnell, eprodrom, Arnaud, cwebber2 (muted), +1.541.410.aaaa, aaronpk, tantek, Sandro, [IPcaller], Ann, rhiaro_ (muted)
18:06:16 <Zakim> On IRC I see hhalpin, harry, Zakim, RRSAgent, Lloyd_Fassett, danbri, bblfish, jasnell, AnnBassetti, eprodrom, tantek, shepazu_away, Arnaud, KevinMarks, rhiaro_, wilkie, Morbus,
18:06:16 <Zakim> ... cwebber2, pdurbin, bigbluehat, JakeHart, mattl, bret, Loqi, zz_nickstenn, oshepherd, rektide_, dwhly, kylewm, Tsyesika, jessica_lily, aaronpk, trackbot, sandro, wseltzer
18:06:21 <eprodrom> q+
18:06:28 <Lloyd_Fassett> zakim, +1.541.410.aaaa is me
18:06:28 <Zakim> +Lloyd_Fassett; got it
18:06:35 <tantek> https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialwg/2015-01-06-minutes
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18:06:45 <Zakim> +??P11
18:06:56 <jessica_lily> me
18:07:06 <tantek> Zakim, ??P11 is jessica_lily
18:07:07 <Zakim> +jessica_lily; got it
18:07:20 <AnnBassetti> approve minutes .... no objections
18:07:25 <jessica_lily> thanks
18:07:50 <cwebber2> no objections here, look good
18:07:52 <AnnBassetti> approved
18:08:04 <tantek> q?
18:08:11 <tantek> ack eprodrom
18:08:21 <AnnBassetti> also need to approve minutes from last meeting
18:08:24 <AnnBassetti> <link?>
18:08:36 <eprodrom> https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialwg/2014-12-16-minutes
18:08:40 <eprodrom> Sorry, they were in the agenda
18:08:56 <eprodrom> +1
18:09:09 <AnnBassetti> Tantek:  suggests postponing approval until next week, so people can have time to read
18:09:35 <AnnBassetti> ... no objections; added to next agenda
18:09:47 <AnnBassetti> ... next week's meeting on schedule per usual
18:09:52 <tantek> next week: https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialwg/2015-01-20
18:10:16 <tantek> https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialwg/2015-01-13#Discussion_of_media_objects_in_Activity_Streams_2.0
18:10:25 <AnnBassetti> ... agenda:  Media Objects 2.0 ... suggested by elf, but he's out sick
18:10:42 <AnnBassetti> ... thus postponed
18:10:49 <AnnBassetti> ... agenda:  Activity Streams
18:11:00 <tantek> https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialwg/2015-01-13#Activity_Streams_2.0_publication
18:11:13 <AnnBassetti> James Snell:
18:11:20 <AnnBassetti> <sorry, missed intro words>
18:11:37 <AnnBassetti> ... recommend we update working draft
18:11:53 <Zakim> -rhiaro_
18:12:01 <AnnBassetti> ... both vocabulary and core working drafts
18:12:19 <Zakim> +??P10
18:12:30 <jasnell> http://jasnell.github.io/w3c-socialwg-activitystreams/activitystreams2.html
18:12:35 <eprodrom> q?
18:12:36 <jasnell> http://jasnell.github.io/w3c-socialwg-activitystreams/activitystreams2-vocabulary.html
18:12:37 <eprodrom> q+
18:12:46 <tantek> http://jasnell.github.io/w3c-socialwg-activitystreams/activitystreams2.html
18:12:46 <tantek> http://jasnell.github.io/w3c-socialwg-activitystreams/activitystreams2-vocabulary.html
18:12:46 <tantek> ack eprodrom
18:13:05 <AnnBassetti> Evan:  any outstanding issues on 1st Working Draft?
18:13:14 <AnnBassetti> JamesS: no ...
18:13:40 <AnnBassetti> Evan:  is next step to propose moving this to next Working Draft?
18:13:44 <jasnell> I've merged in the extended vocabulary work into the editor's drafts. I propose that we update the Working Drafts based on the current editor's drafts
18:13:55 <AnnBassetti> Tantek: next step is to ask if there are any other outstanding issues
18:14:04 <harry> just ping me when moving things to Working Draft
18:14:14 <AnnBassetti> .... I think, James, you asked me to do .... <xx>
18:14:21 <AnnBassetti> ... re: microformats
18:14:22 <harry> and I'm happy to send it in and go through pubrules
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18:15:04 <AnnBassetti> James: added <some info re: microformats> but not an expert, would appreciate review
18:15:10 <AnnBassetti> Tantek: will take a look
18:15:26 <AnnBassetti> James:  be aware there are over 900 examples, many of which are microformats!
18:15:31 <AnnBassetti> Tantek: will look
18:16:26 <AnnBassetti> ACTION:  Tantek, review microformats, due Jan. 14, 2015
18:16:26 <trackbot> Error finding 'Tantek,'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/Social/track/users>.
18:16:51 <eprodrom> AnnBassetti: "ACTION tantek blah blah blah"
18:17:11 <AnnBassetti> ACTION: tantek review microformats due Jan 14, 2015
18:17:12 <trackbot> Created ACTION-26 - Review microformats due jan 14, 2015 [on Tantek Çelik - due 2015-01-20].
18:17:35 <tantek> AnnBassetti: can you add the URL to that action?
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18:17:47 <tantek> URLs
18:18:24 <tantek> trackbot, 26?
18:18:24 <trackbot> Sorry, tantek, I don't understand 'trackbot, 26?'. Please refer to <http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc> for help.
18:18:48 <sandro> action-26?
18:18:48 <trackbot> action-26 -- Tantek Çelik to Review microformats due jan 14, 2015 -- due 2015-01-20 -- OPEN
18:18:48 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/Social/track/actions/26
18:19:39 <aaronpk> i just update the action with the urls
18:19:48 <AnnBassetti> <sorting out how to properly record an action>
18:19:59 <aaronpk> s/update/updated
18:20:29 <eprodrom> +1
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18:21:44 <AnnBassetti> Tantek: proposal for James to prepare updated working drafts for Activity Streams specs on Friday
18:21:45 <Loqi> I added a countdown for 1/16 12:00am (#5576)
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18:22:01 <AnnBassetti> ... proposal ACTION team to review those drafts
18:22:01 <tantek> +1
18:22:03 <jasnell> +1
18:22:05 <rhiaro_> +1
18:22:07 <AnnBassetti> +1
18:22:09 <eprodrom> +1
18:22:10 <cwebber2> +1
18:22:10 <jessica_lily> +1
18:22:11 <aaronpk> tantek, your mic seems to silence until you start speaking, so the first couple hundred milliseconds of your audio is dropped when you start speaking after a gap of silence
18:22:45 <AnnBassetti> Tantek: better to capture explicit support
18:22:46 <tantek> Zakim, who is here?
18:22:46 <Zakim> On the phone I see jasnell, eprodrom, Arnaud, cwebber2 (muted), Lloyd_Fassett, aaronpk, tantek, Sandro, [IPcaller], Ann, jessica_lily, rhiaro_ (muted)
18:22:48 <Zakim> On IRC I see tiborKatelbach, nicolagreco, the_frey, danbri1, blooby, hhalpin, harry, Zakim, RRSAgent, Lloyd_Fassett, jasnell, AnnBassetti, eprodrom, tantek, shepazu_away, Arnaud,
18:22:48 <Zakim> ... KevinMarks, rhiaro_, wilkie, Morbus, cwebber2, pdurbin, bigbluehat, JakeHart, mattl, bret, Loqi, zz_nickstenn, oshepherd, rektide_, dwhly, kylewm, Tsyesika, jessica_lily,
18:22:48 <Zakim> ... aaronpk, trackbot, sandro, wseltzer
18:22:49 <Zakim> +tiborKatelbach
18:23:13 <blooby> I have a poor voip connection
18:23:19 <AnnBassetti> Tantek: checking why people aren't indicating their support or rejection of proposal
18:23:23 <Zakim> +[IPcaller.a]
18:23:32 <wilkie> Zakim, IPcaller.a is me
18:23:32 <Zakim> +wilkie; got it
18:23:33 <aaronpk> +1 sounds good
18:23:38 <wilkie> me. I joined.
18:23:39 <wilkie> :)
18:23:45 <wilkie> sorry I'm late
18:23:50 <eprodrom> Seems like pretty strong consensus with no objections
18:24:19 <eprodrom> Agreed!
18:24:23 <AnnBassetti> Tantek: declares consensus; would prefer more responses
18:24:55 <jasnell> if anyone finds any issues before friday, post them to the mailing list as well as github
18:25:19 <eprodrom> jasnell: I think we're about to do that in the next section
18:25:23 <AnnBassetti> ACTION: James Snell to update http://jasnell.github.io/w3c-socialwg-activitystreams/activitystreams2.html by Jan 16, 2015
18:25:23 <trackbot> 'James' is an ambiguous username. Please try a different identifier, such as family name or username (e.g., jsnell, jktauber).
18:25:36 <jasnell> yes, jsnell
18:25:58 <AnnBassetti> ACTION: jasnell to update http://jasnell.github.io/w3c-socialwg-activitystreams/activitystreams2.html by Jan 16, 2015
18:25:58 <trackbot> Error finding 'jasnell'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/Social/track/users>.
18:26:11 <wilkie> 'jsnell'
18:26:30 <AnnBassetti> ACTION: jsnell to update http://jasnell.github.io/w3c-socialwg-activitystreams/activitystreams2.html by Jan 16, 2015
18:26:30 <trackbot> Created ACTION-27 - Update http://jasnell.github.io/w3c-socialwg-activitystreams/activitystreams2.html by jan 16, 2015 [on James Snell - due 2015-01-20].
18:27:09 <aaronpk> here is the URL http://www.w3.org/Social/track/actions/27
18:27:21 <aaronpk> maybe trackbot should post the URL of the action after it creates it?
18:27:52 <AnnBassetti> ACTION: jsnell to prepare working draft for publication based on http://jasnell.github.io/w3c-socialwg-activitystreams/activitystreams2-vocabulary.html by Jan 16, 2105
18:27:53 <trackbot> Created ACTION-28 - Prepare working draft for publication based on http://jasnell.github.io/w3c-socialwg-activitystreams/activitystreams2-vocabulary.html by jan 16, 2105 [on James Snell - due 2015-01-20].
18:27:54 <jasnell> q+
18:28:07 <aaronpk> I will go update 27
18:28:12 <tantek> q?
18:28:16 <tantek> ack jasnell
18:28:44 <Zakim> -rhiaro_
18:29:00 <AnnBassetti> James: these Working Drafts have been stable for awhile, thus would like to consider moving to Last Call
18:29:07 <AnnBassetti> Tantek: yes, that will be the next step
18:29:12 <Zakim> +??P10
18:29:33 <AnnBassetti> ... having stability on the editor's working draft is important for moving to next steps
18:30:19 <AnnBassetti> James: if anyone sees an issue in the spec(s), please raise issue on GitHub, but copy the mailing list
18:30:27 <AnnBassetti> ... will ensure James sees it promptly
18:30:36 <AnnBassetti> Tantek:  anything else on this topic?
18:30:38 <AnnBassetti> <no>
18:30:38 <tantek> https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialwg/2015-01-13#Microsyntaxes
18:30:46 <eprodrom> q+
18:30:49 <AnnBassetti> ... next topic: Microsyntaxes
18:30:51 <Zakim> +Wendy
18:30:55 <AnnBassetti> .... Evan's topic?
18:31:07 <AnnBassetti> Evan:  actually elf's, but happy to speak to it
18:31:08 <tantek> ack eprodrom
18:31:20 <AnnBassetti> ... issue came up on mailing list
18:31:29 <jasnell> q+
18:31:44 <AnnBassetti> ... number of diff systems doing microsyntaxes
18:32:07 <AnnBassetti> ... example:  with Twitter you put @name to mention a particular user
18:32:33 <AnnBassetti> ... Twitter then routes that tweet in a special way
18:33:01 <tantek> Instagram also handles @-references like that
18:33:02 <AnnBassetti> ... Facebook, Google do similar, with diff syntaxes
18:33:17 <AnnBassetti> ... discussion about how to recognize this
18:33:23 <AnnBassetti> ... via our mailing list
18:33:43 <AnnBassetti> ... how to handle "magic" symbols
18:33:52 <AnnBassetti> ... receiver should not have to do special parsing
18:34:07 <AnnBassetti> ... To: and Cc: properties should handle
18:34:59 <AnnBassetti> ... perhaps add note in Activity Streams that microsyntax in content for other properties should not have to be parsed by the processor
18:35:25 <AnnBassetti> ... will check if there's a github issue; will check
18:35:37 <AnnBassetti> Tantek: do you want this to be in the Friday draft?
18:36:21 <tantek> q?
18:36:21 <AnnBassetti> Evan: this wasn't proposed by me ... nice to have by Friday, but not a crisis if added later
18:36:37 <tantek> ack jasnell
18:36:38 <AnnBassetti> Tantek:  agrees
18:36:52 <AnnBassetti> James: I'm the one who started this on mailing list
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18:37:04 <AnnBassetti> ... won't be prob to add by Friday to the spec
18:37:28 <AnnBassetti> ... I don't see any normative changes; should be just editorial
18:37:33 <AnnBassetti> Evan: agrees
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18:37:59 <AnnBassetti> Tantek:  sounds as if we're resolved on how to handle microsyntax
18:38:06 <AnnBassetti> ... any issues, Evan or james?
18:38:10 <AnnBassetti> <no>
18:38:19 <tantek> https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialwg/2015-01-13#OpenSocial_Press_Release
18:38:25 <AnnBassetti> Tantek: last agenda item ... Open Social announcement
18:38:41 <AnnBassetti> ... press release issued shortly after last meeting
18:38:45 <jasnell> q+
18:39:09 <AnnBassetti> ... want to ensure people are aware of this occurence
18:39:22 <Zakim> +[IPcaller.a]
18:39:30 <AnnBassetti> .... Open Social has formally moved their work to W3C
18:39:31 <harry> Zakim, IPcaller.a is hhalpin
18:39:31 <Zakim> +hhalpin; got it
18:39:38 <tantek> q?
18:39:38 <eprodrom> q+
18:39:45 <harry> q+
18:39:47 <AnnBassetti> ... and expect this WG, plus the Social Web IG to do any follow-on work
18:40:19 <tantek> ack jasnell
18:41:02 <AnnBassetti> James: notes that Press Release raised some issues for some ...
18:41:25 <AnnBassetti> ... he cannot speak for <folks active in Open Social>
18:41:41 <AnnBassetti> ... believes any add'l resources they had, they donated to W3C and decided to close themselves down
18:41:59 <AnnBassetti> ... does not believe there are any implications that this WG would work on anything specific to that work
18:42:02 <harry> s/<folks active in Open Social/Open Social officers board (Matt Marum, etc.)
18:42:11 <tantek> q?
18:42:14 <tantek> ack eprodrom
18:42:34 <harry> we can hear you evan
18:42:38 <Zakim> -rhiaro
18:43:12 <harry> we have no formal commitment to existing OpenSocial specs, although we hope this work and membership can feed into the Social WG's new work.
18:43:15 <AnnBassetti> Evan: I wondered, did this announcement mean that we are expected to maintain current or new version of OpenSocial spec?
18:43:18 <jasnell> no, there are no obligations with regards to the opensocial specs themselves.
18:43:20 <Zakim> +??P10
18:43:31 <AnnBassetti> ... worried that this implied we might be taking on a big amount of new work
18:43:37 <Arnaud> there is no change to the charter, nor any proposal or request to do so
18:43:53 <harry> Yep, no additional charter items
18:43:55 <Arnaud> so, this doesn't change what we are doing
18:44:00 <AnnBassetti> ... appears that OpenSocial gave us their "seal of approval", but without any new charter or additional work
18:44:08 <AnnBassetti> ... seems positive
18:44:17 <Arnaud> q+
18:44:35 <AnnBassetti> Tantek:  I agree
18:44:50 <AnnBassetti> ... I cited our charter in the announcement for that reason
18:45:08 <AnnBassetti> ... maintaining the OpenSocial spec is NOT in our charter; we need to be clear about that
18:45:22 <AnnBassetti> ... if anyone thinks we should do that, it needs to be added to our charter
18:45:31 <jasnell> to be clear, no one has suggested that the social wg ought to maintain the opensocial specs
18:45:41 <eprodrom> q+
18:45:45 <AnnBassetti> ... does anyone think we need to add that to our charter?
18:45:59 <tantek> q?
18:46:14 <tantek> ack harry
18:46:57 <AnnBassetti> Harry:  we had to keep the announcement secret until announced .. apologizes for no preceding discussion with WG
18:47:27 <AnnBassetti> ... no formal obligation
18:47:37 <AnnBassetti> ... hope some of them might join this WG
18:48:18 <AnnBassetti> Tantek: <confirms accuracy of minutes>
18:48:22 <AnnBassetti> Harry:  <agrees>
18:48:35 <tantek> q?
18:48:43 <harry> again, if anyone is worried or has concerns, do feel free to email
18:48:46 <tantek> ack Arnaud
18:49:05 <AnnBassetti> Arnaud:  no change to the charter, and no one has asked for change to charter
18:49:06 <harry> we thought that since there would be no change to the charter, this is more a big +1 to the existing work and a chance to get new folks involved than anything else.
18:49:09 <AnnBassetti> ... good news
18:49:20 <harry> Also, this clarifies the space.
18:49:36 <AnnBassetti> ... Open Social Foundation acknowledged that the "social web" work is happening here, in this W3C WG
18:49:56 <AnnBassetti> ... OSF had some $$ left, which they donated to us
18:50:04 <wseltzer> q+
18:50:13 <AnnBassetti> ... perhaps towards a F2F dinner or some such
18:50:17 <tantek> ack eprodrom
18:50:36 <harry> So if you are a developer, you can just go to Social WG
18:50:41 <harry> for standards, IG for use-case
18:50:48 <harry> q+
18:51:00 <jasnell> that's something I can talk to Matt about
18:51:02 <AnnBassetti> Evan: re: Harry's point ... wonder if our WG chairs might reach out to former OSF members, inviting them to participate here
18:51:04 <jasnell> I can take that action
18:51:14 <jasnell> yes please
18:51:20 <jasnell> otherwise I'll forget :-)
18:51:22 <harry> Yes, it would be good to invite OSF people here
18:51:36 <harry> We've seen some emails from Matt Marum from SugarCRM but a lot aren't here
18:51:55 <harry> participants
18:52:04 <eprodrom> We'd want all the Open Social member organizations and their contact people
18:52:21 <jasnell> jsnell will reach out to previous opensocial members to solicit participation in the Social WG
18:52:38 <AnnBassetti> ACTION: jsnell to reach out to Open Social Foundation participants to invite them to join the W3C Social Web WG
18:52:38 <trackbot> Created ACTION-29 - Reach out to open social foundation participants to invite them to join the w3c social web wg [on James Snell - due 2015-01-20].
18:52:48 <tantek> q?
18:52:50 <tantek> ack wseltzer
18:52:54 <harry> q- hhalpin
18:52:57 <harry> q- harry
18:53:09 <AnnBassetti> Wendy: thanks Evan and James for the outreach!  good collaboration!
18:53:31 <AnnBassetti> ... with "lawyer hat" on, notes W3C has not yet seen the $$
18:53:45 <tantek> q?
18:54:05 <AnnBassetti> ... does not know how much $$ there will actually be
18:54:20 <AnnBassetti> ... actual conclusion and transfer is still in work
18:54:47 <AnnBassetti> Tantek: notes OpenSocial.org domain name now redirects to one W3C blog post
18:55:07 <AnnBassetti> ... wonders if any of the OSF content will be archived and preserved?
18:55:29 <AnnBassetti> Sandro: in the past, W3C has occasionally taken on a web site for archival purposes
18:55:44 <AnnBassetti> ... not sure if it's appropriate here
18:55:53 <AnnBassetti> Ann: what is process to make that happen?
18:55:56 <harry> I think TimBL is not needed
18:56:01 <harry> I can file a sysreq@w3.org
18:56:13 <AnnBassetti> Sandro:  TimBL thought it was important and got SysTeam to do it
18:56:14 <harry> but I think it's just in the backlog
18:56:22 <AnnBassetti> Arnaud: thinks this was part of the negotiation
18:56:46 <AnnBassetti> ... that they would keep the domain and single page
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18:56:55 <tantek> for example this document on opensocial.org just redirects to the blog post: http://docs.opensocial.org/display/OSF/OpenSocial+State+of+the+Union+2011+~+May+12%2C+2011
18:57:13 <jasnell> the specs are archived on github
18:57:18 <jasnell> https://github.com/OpenSocial/spec
18:57:40 <AnnBassetti> Wendy:  <said about the domain and single page> .. if this group thinks there is specific content to be saved, we should point it out
18:58:21 <AnnBassetti> ... we should identify the crucial content, so W3C can look into it
18:58:58 <harry> IMHO its probably ok to just keep OpenSocial on github
18:59:17 <AnnBassetti> Tantek:  modest request:  it would be nice if at least blog posts from OSF could be preserved, to be referenced as history
18:59:28 <AnnBassetti> ... including permalinks
18:59:30 <jasnell> I'll take that action item to follow up on also
18:59:40 <harry> I'm happy to ask Systems Team if ex-OSF people
18:59:42 <jasnell> meaning that I'll ask the opensocial folks about it and report back
18:59:45 <harry> are ok with that
19:00:33 <AnnBassetti> ACTION: jsnell to ask OpenSocial folks about W3C archiving their blog posts
19:00:33 <trackbot> Created ACTION-30 - Ask opensocial folks about w3c archiving their blog posts [on James Snell - due 2015-01-20].
19:00:34 <jasnell> got an answer from andy
19:00:50 <jasnell> Andy Smith says, "we have backed all of them up, and they can be made available if necessary"
19:01:06 <harry> will go to me
19:01:06 <jasnell> "but we felt given the direction of the work and community it was not necessary to manage the migration over"
19:01:17 <jasnell> "In terms of twitter and social media, that will gradaully shift over to the w3c exclusively over the next 6 months or so"
19:01:19 <tantek> simple request from the Social Web WG: can W3C at least archive the social content (e.g. blog posts) from opensocial.org?
19:01:26 <AnnBassetti> ACTION: harry will ask W3C SysTeam about prospect for archiving OSF blog posts and perhaps other content
19:01:26 <trackbot> Created ACTION-31 - Will ask w3c systeam about prospect for archiving osf blog posts and perhaps other content [on Harry Halpin - due 2015-01-20].
19:01:33 <jasnell> q+
19:01:50 <tantek> q?
19:01:52 <tantek> ack jas
19:01:55 <tantek> ack jasnell
19:02:53 <AnnBassetti> James:  other content might be the OSF Twitter account, ...
19:03:08 <AnnBassetti> ... right person to ask is Andy Smith, who is my colleague at IBM
19:03:18 <AnnBassetti> ... I will liaise with him
19:03:38 <harry> jasnell, let's co-ordinate when you are ready to publish those drafts!
19:03:39 <AnnBassetti> Tantek: past our closing time .. any thing else?
19:03:46 <AnnBassetti> ... end of meeting
19:03:48 <eprodrom> Thanks Tantek!
19:03:52 <AnnBassetti> ... thanks all!
19:03:55 <jasnell> harry +1
19:04:00 <Zakim> -eprodrom
19:04:02 <cwebber2> thanks AnnBassetti !
19:04:03 <tantek> trackbot, end meeting
19:04:03 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
19:04:03 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been jasnell, eprodrom, Arnaud, aaronpk, Sandro, [IPcaller], Ann, tantek, cwebber2, rhiaro_, Lloyd_Fassett, jessica_lily, tiborKatelbach,
19:04:07 <Zakim> ... wilkie, rhiaro, Wendy, hhalpin
19:04:07 <Zakim> -Sandro
19:04:09 <Zakim> -cwebber2
19:04:11 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
19:04:11 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/01/13-social-minutes.html trackbot
19:04:12 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
19:04:12 <RRSAgent> I see 9 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2015/01/13-social-actions.rdf :
19:04:12 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Tantek, review microformats, due Jan. 14, 2015 [1]
19:04:12 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/01/13-social-irc#T18-16-26
19:04:12 <RRSAgent> ACTION: tantek review microformats due Jan 14, 2015 [2]
19:04:12 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/01/13-social-irc#T18-17-11
19:04:12 <RRSAgent> ACTION: James Snell to update http://jasnell.github.io/w3c-socialwg-activitystreams/activitystreams2.html by Jan 16, 2015 [3]
19:04:12 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/01/13-social-irc#T18-25-23
19:04:12 <RRSAgent> ACTION: jasnell to update http://jasnell.github.io/w3c-socialwg-activitystreams/activitystreams2.html by Jan 16, 2015 [4]
19:04:12 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/01/13-social-irc#T18-25-58
19:04:12 <RRSAgent> ACTION: jsnell to update http://jasnell.github.io/w3c-socialwg-activitystreams/activitystreams2.html by Jan 16, 2015 [5]
19:04:12 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/01/13-social-irc#T18-26-30
19:04:12 <RRSAgent> ACTION: jsnell to prepare working draft for publication based on http://jasnell.github.io/w3c-socialwg-activitystreams/activitystreams2-vocabulary.html by Jan 16, 2105 [6]
19:04:12 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/01/13-social-irc#T18-27-52
19:04:12 <RRSAgent> ACTION: jsnell to reach out to Open Social Foundation participants to invite them to join the W3C Social Web WG [7]
19:04:12 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/01/13-social-irc#T18-52-38
19:04:12 <RRSAgent> ACTION: jsnell to ask OpenSocial folks about W3C archiving their blog posts [8]
19:04:12 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/01/13-social-irc#T19-00-33
19:04:12 <RRSAgent> ACTION: harry will ask W3C SysTeam about prospect for archiving OSF blog posts and perhaps other content [9]
19:04:12 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/01/13-social-irc#T19-01-26
19:04:14 <Zakim> -jessica_lily
19:04:16 <tiborKatelbach> bye
19:04:17 <harry> Note that there will be a 2-4 day delay between jasnell finishing edits and us publishing on W3C site
19:04:19 <Zakim> -Arnaud
19:04:25 <Zakim> -rhiaro
19:04:27 <Zakim> -aaronpk
19:04:31 <Zakim> -tiborKatelbach
19:04:33 <Zakim> -Wendy
19:04:36 <Zakim> -jasnell
19:04:42 <Zakim> -Lloyd_Fassett