IRC log of social on 2015-01-06

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18:01:23 [RRSAgent]
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18:01:25 [Zakim]
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18:01:27 [trackbot]
Zakim, this will be SOCL
18:01:27 [Zakim]
ok, trackbot; I see T&S_SOCWG()1:00PM scheduled to start now
18:01:28 [trackbot]
Meeting: Social Web Working Group Teleconference
18:01:28 [trackbot]
Date: 06 January 2015
18:02:24 [eprodrom]
Zakim, who is on the call?
18:02:24 [Zakim]
T&S_SOCWG()1:00PM has not yet started, eprodrom
18:02:26 [Zakim]
On IRC I see RRSAgent, jasnell, eprodrom, Adam, caseorganic, Morbus, elf-pavlik, AnnBassetti, Shane, jaensen, jaywink, Arnaud, KevinMarks, cwebber2, pdurbin, rhiaro, bigbluehat,
18:02:26 [Zakim]
... wilkie, JakeHart, mattl, bret, Loqi, nickstenn, oshepherd, rektide_, dwhly, kylewm, Tsyesika, jessica_lily, aaronpk, trackbot, sandro, wseltzer
18:02:35 [eprodrom]
Oh, I thought I had started it
18:02:37 [Arnaud]
zakim, this is socl
18:02:37 [Zakim]
ok, Arnaud; that matches T&S_SOCWG()1:00PM
18:02:41 [Zakim]
18:02:44 [eprodrom]
Arnaud: thanks
18:02:44 [Arnaud]
zakim, who's on the call?
18:02:44 [Zakim]
On the phone I see +1.514.554.aaaa, +1.314.777.aabb, Arnaud, jasnell, aaronpk
18:02:52 [eprodrom]
Zakim, aaaa is me
18:02:52 [Zakim]
+eprodrom; got it
18:02:57 [Zakim]
18:03:02 [Adam]
zakim, aabb is me
18:03:02 [Zakim]
+Adam; got it
18:03:03 [rhiaro]
Zakim, ??P6 is me
18:03:03 [Zakim]
+rhiaro; got it
18:03:03 [Zakim]
18:03:06 [Zakim]
18:03:11 [Shane]
Zakim, ??P4 is me
18:03:11 [Zakim]
+Shane; got it
18:03:15 [Shane]
Zakim, mute me
18:03:15 [Zakim]
Shane should now be muted
18:03:17 [Zakim]
18:03:26 [eprodrom]
Zakim, who is on the call?
18:03:26 [Zakim]
On the phone I see eprodrom, Adam, Arnaud, jasnell, aaronpk, rhiaro (muted), Shane (muted), ??P7, Sandro
18:04:19 [eprodrom]
Zakim, who is on the call?
18:04:19 [cwebber2]
18:04:20 [Zakim]
On the phone I see eprodrom, Adam, Arnaud, jasnell, aaronpk, rhiaro (muted), Shane (muted), elf-pavlik, Sandro
18:04:26 [cwebber2]
I'm trying to connect
18:04:32 [cwebber2]
I'm not hearing audio
18:05:05 [Zakim]
18:05:14 [oshepherd]
Zakim, ??P10 is me
18:05:14 [Zakim]
+oshepherd; got it
18:05:19 [cwebber2]
other SIP lines are working for me, but zakim/w3c is not
18:05:30 [eprodrom]
Zakim, who is on the call?
18:05:30 [Zakim]
On the phone I see eprodrom, Adam, Arnaud, jasnell, aaronpk, rhiaro (muted), Shane (muted), elf-pavlik, Sandro, oshepherd
18:05:32 [rhiaro]
I can scribe assuming my connection holds
18:05:41 [elf-pavlik]
thx rhiaro :)
18:05:41 [rhiaro]
Can we have a backup in case I drop out?
18:05:44 [eprodrom]
scribenick rhiaro
18:05:49 [elf-pavlik]
i can backup
18:05:55 [rhiaro]
thanks elf-pavlik :)
18:06:04 [cwebber2]
I can't hear, will just have to follow on IRC for now
18:06:13 [Arnaud]
scribenick: rhiaro
18:06:27 [rhiaro]
TOPIC: Approval of minutes
18:06:32 [rhiaro]
eprodrom: Minutes not on the wiki
18:06:56 [aaronpk]
oh I thought they were posted... hmm
18:07:12 [rhiaro]
... I will find the minutes.
18:07:12 [eprodrom]
ACTION eprodrom get the minutes for the 12/16 meeting online by next week
18:07:12 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-24 - Get the minutes for the 12/16 meeting online by next week [on Evan Prodromou - due 2015-01-13].
18:07:26 [rhiaro]
... Will get them online for next week. Sorry.
18:07:49 [Zakim]
18:07:53 [rhiaro]
... Next week telecon doesn't have much of an agenda, but will be on.
18:07:56 [aaronpk]
the minutes are here, must have not been linked from the page:
18:07:57 [rhiaro]
TOPIC: Open actions and issues
18:08:01 [bret]
Zakim, ??P9 is me
18:08:01 [Zakim]
+bret; got it
18:08:09 [bret]
Zakim, mute me
18:08:09 [Zakim]
bret should now be muted
18:08:18 [eprodrom]
18:08:19 [rhiaro]
eprodrom: There are a few open actions
18:08:31 [rhiaro]
... Some have been on the list for a while
18:08:31 [elf-pavlik]
aaronpk, 2014-12-16
18:08:41 [aaronpk]
oh my bad
18:08:47 [rhiaro]
... eg. figuring out licencing for pubsubhubbub, has just fallen off the radar
18:09:00 [rhiaro]
... A couple related to AS2.0
18:09:09 [aaronpk]
scribe was Doug Schepers, not evanpro and myself
18:09:10 [rhiaro]
... jasnell, can you address some open issues? any updates?
18:09:18 [Zakim]
18:09:24 [wilkie]
Zakim, IPcaller is me
18:09:24 [Zakim]
+wilkie; got it
18:09:37 [rhiaro]
jasnell: Action 9, extended vocab discussion in editors draft
18:09:42 [rhiaro]
... More work once we're further on with the api
18:10:07 [rhiaro]
... Will be merging everything from base schema. Action 9 complete.
18:10:27 [rhiaro]
... What else?
18:10:39 [rhiaro]
... JSON-LD context ns not set up yet (14).
18:10:50 [bblfish]
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18:10:59 [rhiaro]
... Annotation model: can close it. Would be good to reconnect to the annotations group and see where they're at
18:10:59 [Zakim]
18:11:05 [rhiaro]
... They're not doing anything directly with AS yet
18:11:07 [jessica_lily]
Zakim P12 is me
18:11:19 [jessica_lily]
Zakim, ??P12 is me
18:11:19 [Zakim]
+jessica_lily; got it
18:11:25 [jessica_lily]
Zakim, mute me
18:11:25 [Zakim]
jessica_lily should now be muted
18:11:37 [Zakim]
+ +1.773.614.aacc
18:11:41 [rhiaro]
... The other one to do with Social APIs. Colleague Bill Ruby(?) will put together doc about Connections API. He's joined group.
18:12:01 [rhiaro]
eprodrom: tantek has an open action to close another action... can close that.
18:12:12 [rhiaro]
... Last meeting we decided date and location of f2f
18:12:13 [tantek]
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18:12:14 [cwebber2]
Zakim, ??+1.773.614.aac is me
18:12:14 [Zakim]
sorry, cwebber2, I do not recognize a party named '??+1.773.614.aac'
18:12:18 [cwebber2]
Zakim, +1.773.614.aac is me
18:12:18 [Zakim]
+cwebber2; got it
18:12:32 [eprodrom]
sandro, are we good for dates for f2f?
18:12:35 [Zakim]
18:12:38 [nicolagreco]
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18:12:47 [rhiaro]
... sandro to make sure we have venue in Cambridge
18:12:48 [sandro]
99% sure. paste the times again?
18:13:00 [oshepherd]
This Cambridge, MA or Cambridge, UK? :P
18:13:07 [tantek]
Zakim, ??P14 is m
18:13:07 [Zakim]
+m; got it
18:13:09 [eprodrom]
sandro, I will post those dates in a moment
18:13:09 [tantek]
Zakim, ??P14 is me
18:13:09 [Zakim]
I already had ??P14 as m, tantek
18:13:10 [tantek]
March 17-18
18:13:11 [tantek]
18:13:25 [rhiaro]
... Dates March 17-18 at MIT
18:13:29 [oshepherd]
I thought so, but felt the need to avoid ambiguity :P
18:13:39 [tantek]
Zakim, ??P14 is not m
18:13:39 [Zakim]
I don't understand '??P14 is not m', tantek
18:13:41 [sandro]
double chekcing room now
18:13:44 [eprodrom]
sandro, if you can confirm we can start making travel plans
18:14:03 [rhiaro]
tantek: Also discussed the next two days being an indiewebcamp
18:14:11 [cwebber2]
and libreplanet is very shortly after too
18:14:22 [tantek]
Zakim, help
18:14:22 [Zakim]
Please refer to for more detailed help.
18:14:24 [Zakim]
Some of the commands I know are:
18:14:24 [Zakim]
xxx is yyy - establish yyy as the name of unknown party xxx
18:14:24 [Zakim]
if yyy is 'me' or 'I', your nick is substituted
18:14:24 [Zakim]
xxx may be yyy - establish yyy as possibly the name of unknown party xxx
18:14:24 [Zakim]
I am xxx - establish your nick as the name of unknown party xxx
18:14:24 [Zakim]
xxx holds yyy [, zzz ...] - establish xxx as a group name and yyy, etc. as participants within that group
18:14:26 [Zakim]
xxx also holds yyy - add yyy to the list of participants in group xxx
18:14:26 [Zakim]
who's here? - lists the participants on the phone
18:14:26 [Zakim]
who's muted? - lists the participants who are muted
18:14:26 [Zakim]
mute xxx - mutes party xxx (like pressing 61#)
18:14:26 [Zakim]
unmute xxx - reverses the effect of "mute" and of 61#
18:14:26 [Zakim]
is xxx here? - reports whether a party named like xxx is present
18:14:27 [Zakim]
list conferences - reports the active conferences
18:14:28 [Zakim]
this is xxx - associates this channel with conference xxx
18:14:28 [Zakim]
excuse us - disconnects from the irc channel
18:14:28 [Zakim]
I last learned something new on $Date: 2013-03-03 19:18:47 $
18:14:50 [rhiaro]
eprodrom: elf-pavlik action on microsyntaxes
18:14:52 [elf-pavlik]
18:14:54 [rhiaro]
elf-pavlik: Completed
18:15:23 [rhiaro]
eprodrom: Arnaud, can you clear some actions?
18:15:29 [rhiaro]
Arnaud: no problem
18:15:47 [rhiaro]
eprodrom: 8, 9, 21 and 22 need closing
18:15:56 [rhiaro]
... And 18
18:16:28 [rhiaro]
... Anything else to add to list right now?
18:16:37 [Zakim]
18:16:44 [tantek]
Zakim, mute me
18:16:44 [Zakim]
tantek should now be muted
18:16:48 [rhiaro]
... Biggest not finished here is updating schedule
18:17:11 [elf-pavlik]
q+ re: dates on schedule
18:17:17 [rhiaro]
... How do we get our schedule up to date? Have option to clear it out and just show milestones. Most dates are in the past. Pushed off until next week
18:17:26 [rhiaro]
... My other one is to make sure minutes get up to date.
18:17:36 [rhiaro]
... Any other tasks for this list?
18:17:47 [rhiaro]
elf-pavlik: Can we just remove dates until we have updated ones?
18:17:55 [tantek]
agree with remove outdated dates and have no dates instead
18:17:56 [rhiaro]
... Better to have no dates than dates in the past.
18:17:57 [sandro]
Meeting space confirmed for March 17-18 (and also 19-20 for IndieWebCamp)
18:18:06 [tantek]
sandro awesome! thanks!
18:18:14 [rhiaro]
eprodrom: We agreed last time to keep dates, we have committments on them, on milestones
18:18:32 [rhiaro]
... Will update as soon as possible.
18:18:47 [rhiaro]
... As a quick fix, will clear out old dates and replace with TBD
18:18:54 [eprodrom]
18:18:59 [tantek]
agree, sounds good to see outdated dates replaced with TBD
18:19:08 [rhiaro]
... Anything else?
18:19:25 [elf-pavlik]
18:19:26 [rhiaro]
... We have some issues not yet resolved
18:19:35 [rhiaro]
... That came from the f2f
18:19:39 [rhiaro]
... But not ready for actions
18:19:47 [rhiaro]
... (unless someone has any feedback?)
18:19:53 [eprodrom]
18:20:06 [rhiaro]
... If not, moving on
18:20:12 [rhiaro]
TOPIC: Coordination with the SocialIG
18:20:33 [rhiaro]
eprodrom: There's a telecon scheduled for tomorrow. The question is priorities in the next two weeks. Use cases are an important priority.
18:20:41 [rhiaro]
... Are there other things we need to ask the interest group to update or concentrate on?
18:20:44 [elf-pavlik]
q+ re: IG
18:20:49 [eprodrom]
ack elf-pavlik
18:20:49 [Zakim]
elf-pavlik, you wanted to discuss IG
18:20:59 [tantek]
q+ re: IG and annotations use-cases
18:21:30 [rhiaro]
elf-pavlik: Will write about meetings with people from friendica, diaspora, etc for IG
18:21:59 [eprodrom]
ack tantek
18:22:01 [Zakim]
tantek, you wanted to discuss IG and annotations use-cases
18:22:31 [rhiaro]
tantek: Use cases in Annotation WG. Can we ask SocialIG to look into annotation use cases? Or if no-one has any interest, also useful to know.
18:22:41 [AnnBassetti]
hmm .. interesting
18:22:44 [rhiaro]
... Have we asked them?
18:23:18 [rhiaro]
eprodrom: Important question. The last time we discussed this was at the f2f and KevinMarks was the liason for the Annotation WG
18:23:24 [rhiaro]
tantek: but not the IG
18:23:32 [elf-pavlik]
I can bring it to IG telecon tomorrow
18:23:36 [rhiaro]
eprodrom: Don't know if there's someone form the IG to liaise
18:23:53 [AnnBassetti]
18:23:57 [rhiaro]
tantek: Really useful to know if anyone from SocialIG is or isn't interested in annotations
18:24:12 [rhiaro]
eprodrom: Find a way to formalise relationship between SocialIG and Annotations
18:24:25 [rhiaro]
tantek: A few days ago topic of quotations posts came up in indiewebcamp, so did some research
18:24:33 [tantek]
18:24:37 [rhiaro]
... When is something in a quotation vs reply vs bookmark
18:24:51 [rhiaro]
... Tried to see if there's similar research in Annotations community - didn't find anything.
18:24:51 [elf-pavlik]
nickstenn, FYI ^
18:25:06 [rhiaro]
... If anyone knows anything about any other research about post types where you're doing something with someone elses posts, please tell!
18:25:18 [rhiaro]
... If not, I submit my research for consideration (
18:25:32 [rhiaro]
eprodrom: In my experience, sounds similar to AS Share verb
18:25:48 [rhiaro]
... kind of a retweet or repost or reshare activity
18:25:56 [rhiaro]
tantek: In indieweb we call it repost
18:25:57 [wilkie]
these are always interesting cases in semantics. like vs favorite vs bookmark too.
18:26:08 [rhiaro]
eprodrom: But quotation is like whole thing, quotation is a subset
18:26:11 [rhiaro]
tantek: correct
18:26:31 [rhiaro]
... if you do post somebody's entire post but go in and emphasise, that becomes more of a quotation than a share
18:26:38 [tantek]
18:26:54 [rhiaro]
eprodrom: Really interesting case, because it's so common
18:26:57 [Shane]
Sounds like the difference between RT (retweet) and MT (modified tweet) on twitter
18:27:13 [rhiaro]
tantek: Just want to ask if anyone else knows of any other research
18:27:23 [rhiaro]
eprodrom: Another thing to bring up with IG
18:27:25 [tantek]
18:27:33 [eprodrom]
ack AnnBassetti
18:27:38 [wilkie]
Shane: yeah, it more or less is. people find a way to be creative about semantics. it's just natural.
18:28:14 [rhiaro]
AnnBassetti: Just wanted clarification from tantek, but have it now. Only distinction I might make is for annotations in this context, we would want to figure out how to distinguish it for social as opposed to any old random annotation
18:28:21 [rhiaro]
... I think tantek's research does that, will have to look
18:28:29 [rhiaro]
... Will bring it up at IG if nobody else does
18:29:01 [rhiaro]
... Don't know where the annotation wg is going with this
18:29:04 [bret]
annotations for personal use vs, public shared use?
18:29:11 [rhiaro]
... I imagine if I'm looking at a webpage, I can just be annotating it for myself
18:29:17 [rhiaro]
... Just makeing scribble notes.
18:29:24 [rhiaro]
... On the other hand, could want to share notes
18:29:37 [rhiaro]
tantek: Good point. Private notes.
18:29:46 [oshepherd]
ActivityStreams already has addressing properties. Perhaps its just the case of using them?
18:30:11 [eprodrom]
oshepherd: It'd be interesting to try to model it in AS 2.0
18:30:14 [oshepherd]
Private notes would just be to: [], cc: []
18:30:16 [cwebber2]
Zakim, mute me
18:30:16 [Zakim]
cwebber2 should now be muted
18:30:21 [Shane]
I have a lot of annotations (of a kind) on my site that only show when I'm logged in
18:30:23 [rhiaro]
... Private notes are important consideration
18:30:43 [rhiaro]
... Private notes historically have been considered part of social domain
18:31:01 [rhiaro]
... All social efforts have typically included private notes as part of their work and their scope
18:31:08 [rhiaro]
AnnBassetti: How does that work?
18:31:15 [bret]
as in social domain covers notes to yourself in the same way they do when shared with others?
18:31:18 [rhiaro]
tantek: Different opinions welcome, but that's always been the case
18:31:45 [rhiaro]
AnnBassetti: In indieweb, everyone has own site. So if you're doing your own work and posting it on your site for you, but anyone else can read it?
18:31:52 [rhiaro]
tantek: Depends on permissions, indieweb and elsewhere
18:32:01 [rhiaro]
... Public, friends-only, private, to individuals
18:32:18 [rhiaro]
AnnBassetti: If you give permission to somebody, that's where the social aspect comes in?
18:32:41 [rhiaro]
tantek: The larger effort of all these things being social consider private posts to be in scope, rather than needing to contact another person
18:32:53 [rhiaro]
... I realise that seems semantically unusual, but culturally that's how it seems to be in these communities
18:32:59 [Zakim]
18:33:01 [oshepherd]
Once you have the ability to address posts exclusively to certain people, yourself just becomes a part of that
18:33:22 [rhiaro]
AnnBassetti: I could post something to myself, but maybe at some point in the future I could pull you into my confidence and expose it to you
18:33:25 [rhiaro]
tantek: Good example
18:33:39 [rhiaro]
... Anything that's potentially social
18:33:47 [rhiaro]
AnnBassetti: Potentially any human activity is social
18:33:56 [rhiaro]
tantek: Constrain to the Web....
18:34:06 [bret]
there are webs in caves too
18:34:11 [rhiaro]
eprodrom: Before we go too far down that path...
18:34:40 [wilkie]
we should get philosophical :) we are trying to capture the entirity of human creativity. the challenge is not getting overwhelmed while also not being too limiting.
18:34:42 [Zakim]
18:34:44 [Shane]
Zakim, ??P16 is me
18:34:44 [Zakim]
+Shane; got it
18:34:45 [rhiaro]
... The other item I want to discuss at the IG is that we've had a process that we've been following for the Social API, which has been to review APIs from proprietary systems
18:34:46 [Shane]
Zakim, mute me
18:34:46 [Zakim]
Shane should now be muted
18:34:55 [rhiaro]
... To understand patterns that happen in those APIs
18:35:04 [eprodrom]
18:35:04 [rhiaro]
... And get to a point where we can assemble functional requirements of a social API
18:35:07 [Zakim]
18:35:15 [Zakim]
18:35:31 [rhiaro]
... We've done 9 maybe 10
18:35:33 [Shane]
Hmm, having trouble with the call, will go irc-only now
18:35:35 [Zakim]
18:35:44 [rhiaro]
... Analysis on wiki as well as discussion in calls
18:35:52 [rhiaro]
... Really is time to take evaluations and make them into set of requirements
18:36:00 [rhiaro]
... against which we'll measure candidates for the Social API
18:36:12 [rhiaro]
... Will be useful to get input from the IG in that process
18:36:19 [rhiaro]
... Does that seem reasonable?
18:36:27 [elf-pavlik]
18:36:41 [rhiaro]
... If nobody objects, will put that on agenda for IG tomorrow
18:36:42 [eprodrom]
ACTION eprodrom discuss Social API functional requirement process with IG
18:36:42 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-25 - Discuss social api functional requirement process with ig [on Evan Prodromou - due 2015-01-13].
18:37:01 [rhiaro]
... Anything else to bring up with IG?
18:37:11 [rhiaro]
... Great.
18:37:28 [rhiaro]
... One more agenda item
18:37:33 [rhiaro]
TOPIC: Schedule
18:37:41 [rhiaro]
... Don't know if we need to discuss this further
18:37:56 [elf-pavlik]
18:38:00 [rhiaro]
... Confirm milestones, but will have to discuss next week
18:38:07 [rhiaro]
... Anything else we need to discuss this afternoon?
18:38:14 [rhiaro]
... If not, we can end call
18:38:17 [tantek]
q+ to talk about 2015-01-01 personal site shipments
18:38:23 [rhiaro]
elf-pavlik: One topic for next week
18:38:32 [rhiaro]
... We had some discussion about media objects in AS. Images, audio, video etc
18:38:52 [rhiaro]
... We could try to focus on moving forward with some proposals on how to handle media objects in AS.
18:39:00 [rhiaro]
... There were two different conversations, but didn't make progress.
18:39:06 [rhiaro]
... If other people are interested, would be good to focus on that
18:39:25 [rhiaro]
... Can we discuss over mailing list this week, and have some resolution to discuss for next week?
18:39:41 [rhiaro]
eprodrom: Great, will add to agenda for next week
18:39:45 [wilkie]
elf-pavlik: is there an open issue where image representation is contended?
18:39:58 [rhiaro]
... Anything else?
18:40:22 [elf-pavlik]
wilkie, i'll try to dig up various email threads and github issue around that
18:40:24 [rhiaro]
tantek: informally mention that various indieweb people committed to ship features by 1st Jan
18:40:31 [tantek]
18:40:44 [rhiaro]
... If anyone was working on personal site and shipped something, please add yourself to indiewebcamp wiki
18:40:51 [wilkie]
elf-pavlik: sounds good
18:40:58 [jasnell]
Working a new blog impl based on AS2 and Linked Data Platform here. Not shipped yet. Hopefully by face to face
18:41:00 [rhiaro]
... Interesting to see where people are at and what features are drawing attention
18:41:04 [rhiaro]
... Open invitation for anyone
18:41:21 [wilkie]
18:41:23 [Zakim]
18:41:23 [tantek]
18:41:24 [AnnBassetti]
18:41:26 [rhiaro]
eprodrom: If that's it, we'll end
18:41:27 [tantek]
ack tantek
18:41:27 [Zakim]
tantek, you wanted to talk about 2015-01-01 personal site shipments
18:41:31 [Zakim]
18:41:31 [elf-pavlik]
thanks eprodrom, rhiaro, all!
18:41:33 [Zakim]
18:41:35 [Zakim]
18:41:35 [eprodrom]
Thanks all
18:41:39 [Zakim]
18:41:42 [Zakim]
18:41:43 [bret]
18:41:43 [Zakim]
18:41:44 [Zakim]
18:41:45 [AnnBassetti]
great minutes, rhiaro!
18:41:46 [Zakim]
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18:41:53 [tantek]
rhiaro++ thanks for great minutes!
18:41:54 [Loqi]
rhiaro has 4 karma
18:41:58 [wilkie]
18:42:00 [Loqi]
rhiaro has 5 karma
18:42:06 [AnnBassetti]
did someone make minutes?
18:42:34 [Zakim]
18:43:57 [elf-pavlik]
trackbot, end meeting
18:43:57 [trackbot]
Zakim, list attendees
18:43:57 [Zakim]
As of this point the attendees have been +1.514.554.aaaa, +1.314.777.aabb, Arnaud, jasnell, aaronpk, eprodrom, Adam, rhiaro, Shane, Sandro, elf-pavlik, oshepherd, bret, wilkie,
18:44:00 [Zakim]
... jessica_lily, +1.773.614.aacc, cwebber2, tantek, Ann
18:44:05 [trackbot]
RRSAgent, please draft minutes
18:44:05 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate trackbot
18:44:06 [trackbot]
RRSAgent, bye
18:44:06 [RRSAgent]
I see no action items
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logging to
18:45:46 [elf-pavlik]
RRSAgent, make logs world-visible
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RRSAgent, bye
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I see no action items